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Is v10 Tune Available for '13+ SHO?

Started by BiGMaC, February 27, 2016, 04:01:50 PM

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BiGMaC

Saw v10 tune for the F150 3.5 GDI... Is it available for the SHO ... What's new in it?

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

14SHOCAR

BigMac --

I have a 2014 SHO, and I am running the v10 tune. They asked me to try it out based on some things that have been going on. Here is my feedback to Livernois from this week:

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What I like:
1. It seems the shift points are much more solid from gear to gear. The car doesn't wait as long for 2-3 in the RPM band.
2. In stop and go traffic, the car doesn't seem to be as happy to upshift, which is actually kind of nice.

What I'm seeing:
1. I'm still getting popping at WOT but it's not 100% of the time. For example, yesterday I raced a 2015 Porche Panorama Turbo S (which smoked me off the line by the way), but I did not have any popping what-so-ever. Where-as a few days earlier I was hitting the on ramp and it was popping again between 2nd and 3rd gear (65-75ish MPH).

2. When the car is popping, I'm noticing that the shifts are no longer "waiting for a particular RPM to change gears". Rather, the popping is less, and the shift comes quicker. That's the best I can explain it. I'm planning on getting video from the outside of the car showing the pops with v10 soon.

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I'd also be curious what was adjusted so I can help pin point the issue.
18 Volvo S90 Inscription - 2.0T Twin Charged - Polestar Tuned.
17 Lincoln MKZ 3.0T GTDI -To Tune, or Not To Tune -- THAT is the question.
15 Road Glide Special - CFR Exhaust, Powder Coated everything, DirtyAir Air ride
14 Taurus SHO (Sold)
LMS 93 V8 3Bar Tune, K&N Intake, LMS 160 t-stat, LMS pre-gapped plugs, Corsa Exhaust

14SHOCAR

Also forgot to add -- I'm still needing to change out my plugs. I haven't been using my car a lot given my travel and work schedule has been insane. So, that is still in the works.
18 Volvo S90 Inscription - 2.0T Twin Charged - Polestar Tuned.
17 Lincoln MKZ 3.0T GTDI -To Tune, or Not To Tune -- THAT is the question.
15 Road Glide Special - CFR Exhaust, Powder Coated everything, DirtyAir Air ride
14 Taurus SHO (Sold)
LMS 93 V8 3Bar Tune, K&N Intake, LMS 160 t-stat, LMS pre-gapped plugs, Corsa Exhaust

ZSHO

The best of my knowledge the V9 tune is the latest and newest tune out for the SHO,the same goes for the X-Sport which received a new V4 Tune a few months back,personally was one of the first ones to receive the V9 tune back in Nov and no mention of a V10 in the works.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

AJP turbo

Looks like you are ill-informed then Z...good luck finding out what was adjusted from lms ....they didnt even want to say what there fan coolant settings were when there was a general discussion a while back about thermostats....wouldnt want the tune to be exposed due to revealing a fan setting
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

ZSHO

#5
Quote from: ajpturbo on February 27, 2016, 05:02:41 PM
Looks like you are ill-informed then Z...good luck finding out what was adjusted from lms ....they didnt even want to say what there fan coolant settings were when there was a general discussion a while back about thermostats....wouldnt want the tune to be exposed due to revealing a fan setting
AJ not quite sure what the issue is but its all good.  Z   :)


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

AJP turbo

Nothing...just saying 14shocar already has the v10 it appears...you better get on the horn and get your update Z!
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

14SHOCAR

Quote from: ajpturbo on February 27, 2016, 05:10:58 PM
Nothing...just saying 14shocar already has the v10 it appears...you better get on the horn and get your update Z!

That not truly accurate. I am working with the v10 as a courtesy to them. That or it was placebo.... I'm planning on doing plugs in the next few weeks to see if this corrects the issue.
18 Volvo S90 Inscription - 2.0T Twin Charged - Polestar Tuned.
17 Lincoln MKZ 3.0T GTDI -To Tune, or Not To Tune -- THAT is the question.
15 Road Glide Special - CFR Exhaust, Powder Coated everything, DirtyAir Air ride
14 Taurus SHO (Sold)
LMS 93 V8 3Bar Tune, K&N Intake, LMS 160 t-stat, LMS pre-gapped plugs, Corsa Exhaust

BiGMaC

FYI, I shot a PM off to LME regarding v10. Here is Anthony's reply.  Apparently some SHOs from '13 on have a different factory tune... And not all respond the same to v10. Here's the PM reply:

v9 is the most current tune available for most all of the 2013-15 SHO models.  There were a select few guys that claimed to have some WOT hesitation like they were running out of fuel. SO if you have v9 and are getting any type of hesitation please shoot me your request over to info@ or tuning@livernoismotorsports.com 

So v9 is the best tune out unless you are having a stutter / hesitation which we have a revision to resolve that.  The calibrator said he found some things that were actually causing it in a select few SHOs.  Not all strategies have this same factory glitch that we were actually able to duplicate on another vehicle here with the same factory code as him, which our shop car will not do no matter how hard we've tried on v9. 

Feel free to give me a call / email if you would like to discuss this further and I would be glad to help. 

Thanks,
Anthony @ LMS

I may give him a call as I have held off v9 because of hearing the problem alluded to in the reply.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

FoMoCoSHO

Is this a specific calibration, like maybe one of the 50 state EPA cars?

BiGMaC

As it was explained I'd more detail v9 came about from tuning a local customer's SHO because he wanted something a little hotter for the strip... Some cars apparently have a slightly different set of OEM parameters and didn't respond well at WOT... V10 is the fix for them. LME was able to prove the software problem on some SHOs, but not on those without the "stuttering at WOT" problem under v9 as I understand it. I don't have any demographics on the cars.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

AJP turbo

Kind of interested in the fact that lms was pretty hard in their stance that the tune is fine and that 14 shocar didnt follow instructions  but now there is a potential tune revision?
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

BiGMaC

#12
Quote from: ajpturbo on March 07, 2016, 07:52:00 PM
Kind of interested in the fact that lms was pretty hard in their stance that the tune is fine and that 14 shocar didnt follow instructions  but now there is a potential tune revision?
The PM is there. LMS owns multiple SHOs and was nor able to reproduce the symptom on their cars... V10 is apparently a revision of v9, only just released, for a problem with a limited number of vehicles... So if you're running v9 and happy you probably should leave it alone.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOdded

Valuable info indeed, BiGMaC!  Serves as a reminder not to take things for granted.  Ford can and will make running changes in production, so sometimes you have to look closely at what YOUR car has on it vs. relying on a catalog or production data.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

SHOme

I am running the v10 with no issues.  It makes me smile alot.
2014 SHO, PP 3 bar, 160 T Stat, Livernois v10 Tune, UPR catch can. MDesign CAI