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Cleaning the MAP Sensors - where and how many?

Started by 93Cobra, January 15, 2016, 12:39:41 PM

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93Cobra

I need to clean the MAP sensors on the SHO and I found just two - by throttle body and on top of engine. Are there only these two? I wanted to shoot some MAF sensor cleaner on them and clean off. I don't run a catch can and I also run an oiled filter, so they most likely need cleaned. My gas mileage has dropped from 24/26 to 21, so I figured now was a good time to have a look. Car has 31k miles.

ZSHO

There are two map sensors,personally like to clean them at every oil change.  Z


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SHOdded

Do you have winter gas in your area?  That can cause a 10% mpg drop, easy.  But getting into a routine with MAP cleaning is a great idea.
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

AJP turbo

Quote from: ZSHO on January 15, 2016, 01:10:22 PM
There are two map sensors,personally like to clean them at every oil change.  Z

Damn Z..im into taking care of a car also....i even change brake and clutch fluid and power steering fluid on cars that have that but every oil change lol...not gonna hurt but the reason oil never really causes a problem for map sensors is oil has no effect on the diaphragm...the amount of deflection  of the diaphragm is transferred to the transducer which gives an electrical reading....on a maf sensor the oil can insulate the element wires which will require a different current to heat the wires to the required temp
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93Cobra

Quote from: ZSHO on January 15, 2016, 01:10:22 PM
There are two map sensors,personally like to clean them at every oil change.  Z

Thanks!! The ecoboost F150 folks are cleaning theirs (3 of them) very often and it really helps with the idle and gas mileage.

Yes, I do have winter gas here, but this issue of poor gas mileage has been around since the summer. I do know that degradation of gas mileage on these engines is indicative of an issue(s), so I figured I would start with the MAP sensors tomorrow since my air filter was just cleaned/oiled. I actually switched from K&N filter oil to Green Filter oil which is actually safe for the electronic sensors. I know that new spark plugs are in my very near future since I already have 31k miles on the factory plugs. I just wasn't looking forward to changing them.

AJP turbo

Quote from: 93Cobra on January 15, 2016, 02:57:14 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on January 15, 2016, 01:10:22 PM
There are two map sensors,personally like to clean them at every oil change.  Z

Thanks!! The ecoboost F150 folks are cleaning theirs (3 of them) very often and it really helps with the idle and gas mileage.



Thats very debatable...the 02 sensors constantly adjust to ensure a perfect commanded mixture.

Where are the 3 map sensors? ...interesting...im curious ...so there is the map and tip sensors..where is the 3rd?
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93Cobra

Same as SHO, but the third is right at the air box.

FoMoCoSHO

Pretty sure that is just a temp sensor, same as we have.


93Cobra

Right - on 2012 and newer trucks, it is a MAP sensor.

AJP turbo

I found a pic and it looks like a map sensor....seems pointless.....but id say the purpose is to have a barometric pressure reference for atmosphere....the tune does have items that address it
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405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

93Cobra

Cleaning of these MAP sensors has proved valuable to the f150 owners, so I will be doing my SHO tomorrow.

AJP turbo

Some people tell me their airfilter made a difference....i usually prefer hard evidence...havent seen any from spraying down a map sensor...how does it affect the internal diaphragm of the sensor?
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405whp/520tq
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Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

93Cobra

Issues they had before are gone after the cleaning- you figure it out.

AJP turbo

Quote from: 93Cobra on January 16, 2016, 09:31:32 PM
Issues they had before are gone after the cleaning- you figure it out.

I just figured it out...They made an erroneous correlation to the percieved subsidence of symtoms   
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405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress