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2010 MKS no turbo power/negative boost

Started by salsathe4th, November 03, 2015, 01:54:18 PM

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salsathe4th

Lately I've been having problems with my car not getting its full potential when WOT. When I WOT i can hear the whirring of my engine increase then quickly drop and not fully contain the boost pressure. (The turbos continue to spool up but the power from them gets released) I ran the torque app and found out that at low speed i have -12 psi and at WOT it would go to 7 then quickly go to 0 or even negative. I feel like that shouldn't happen when i am accelerating. The only time I can get more then 0 is when the car quickly downshifts but yet that doesn't last as long as it should (to the end of the gear). From a dead stop to pressing on the gas pedal the boost psi rarely goes positive. If anyone could help me with this issue that'd be great :)
"Do or do not, there is no try"         2010 MKS, 22" Motiv Maranello Rims, Mdesign CAI with VTA, LMS 4X tune and lovin' it
-master yoda

ZSHO

#1
It sounds like your wastegate hose popped off by the actuator or the intake charge pipe.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

FoMoCoSHO

CAC hose could be loose as well.

Mine popped off after a d-ship trip and i had an NA SHO for a bit....didn't like it much.

salsathe4th

I rather new to this engine do you have pictures to where these parts are located?
"Do or do not, there is no try"         2010 MKS, 22" Motiv Maranello Rims, Mdesign CAI with VTA, LMS 4X tune and lovin' it
-master yoda

FoMoCoSHO

Follow the throttle body tube back towards the radiator.

ZSHO

#5
Check out this video courtesy of 14shocar,hope this helps to get an inside perspective.  Z    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrhBu5XtafU  Also need to purchase a 1/4 clamp so it does not pop off again,pic's below highlighted in blue,hope this helps any.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

glock-coma

Hey sal I'm pretty close to you in Parma. I could take a look and sho you where those connections are if you would like.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

salsathe4th

Quote from: glock-coma on November 03, 2015, 03:15:51 PM
Hey sal I'm pretty close to you in Parma. I could take a look and sho you where those connections are if you would like.

If i can't figure out the problem in the next couple of days I'll stop over for some help. Thank you!
"Do or do not, there is no try"         2010 MKS, 22" Motiv Maranello Rims, Mdesign CAI with VTA, LMS 4X tune and lovin' it
-master yoda

glock-coma


Quote from: salsathe4th on November 03, 2015, 03:26:54 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on November 03, 2015, 03:15:51 PM
Hey sal I'm pretty close to you in Parma. I could take a look and sho you where those connections are if you would like.

If i can't figure out the problem in the next couple of days I'll stop over for some help. Thank you!
No prob. Sent you an IM with my contact info. Or you can send me a message here.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

Vortech347

Nice video.  I'm going to go put a clamp on that MOFO right now!  With two other boosted cars I've learned EVERY vacuum or boost line needs retention.
Matt H.
2013 SHO Performance Pack, Daily, AJPTurbo tuned
2003 SVT Cobra 497rwhp/491rwtq, Self tuned, Cruiser
1990 Mustang GT 570rwhp/530twtq, Self tuned, Open Track
2017 F150 XLT 5.0

ZSHO

I found using some 1/4 hose clamps to be very beneficial in securing those hoses.  Z  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0040CWZR0?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage           


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

salsathe4th

i checked all the connections pictured and they were all on and secure. Could this be a turbo itself related issue? Also i just wanted to say that if im barely touching the gas pedal while moving (LIKE BARELY!) The car will go forward fine. BUT once i let off the car gets a slight drop back kick and then starts to decrease speed faster then it should.
"Do or do not, there is no try"         2010 MKS, 22" Motiv Maranello Rims, Mdesign CAI with VTA, LMS 4X tune and lovin' it
-master yoda

glock-coma

Leak could be on the "hot pipes" in between the turbos and intercooler.
They have been known to tear right at the bellowed area. The ecoboost motor has a crazy amount of front/back movement under load. 
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

ZSHO

#13
I forgot to mention if you have any codes set?? Should be some codes,especially with your symptoms.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

glock-coma

2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)