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Taurus SHO light howl 40 mph

Started by polskifacet, October 13, 2015, 11:23:17 PM

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polskifacet

Quote from: ZSHO on October 14, 2015, 07:09:03 AM
Agree with MANU, it sounds like you have an air leak in the exhaust,start it up in the am when its cold and let it warm up for 10 min,then just move the car so you can check the amount of h20 on the floor,mine only leaks by the mufflers.  Z
2 puddles of water where the cat delete was done. Has to be the source. Will get redone in a couple weeks, will report back!
AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs

ZSHO

Quote from: polskifacet on October 14, 2015, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on October 14, 2015, 07:09:03 AM
Agree with MANU, it sounds like you have an air leak in the exhaust,start it up in the am when its cold and let it warm up for 10 min,then just move the car so you can check the amount of h20 on the floor,mine only leaks by the mufflers.  Z
2 puddles of water where the cat delete was done. Has to be the source. Will get redone in a couple weeks, will report back!
That should be your cause right there,any type of codes set??  Best of luck and keep us updated.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

polskifacet

AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs

ZSHO

#18
That seems a bit excessive,while your at the shop would also consider installing new gaskets if not done so already for a secure tight seal,  (X2 needed).  Z    http://www.tascaparts.com/ford/taurus/7t4z9450aa/2013-year/sho-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/exhaust-system-cat/exhaust-components-scat/?part_name=muffler-and-pipe-gasket&position=left                                                                                                                                        http://www.tascaparts.com/auto-parts/2013/ford/taurus/sho-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/exhaust-system-cat/exhaust-components-scat


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

polskifacet

Yup got new ones. Also decided to put in a magnaflow resonated X in place of the stock resonator since he is going to have to take it apart and weld anyway.
AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs

SHOdded

3500 mile commitment to the "new" setup.  Best of luck!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

polskifacet

Sound is still there after getting the exhaust fixed. I did some more research and on the EB F150 forums it seems to be more common. Could be linked to VTA.
AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs

ZSHO

The SHO has a history of making some weird and odd noises when the bov are vta,from duck to geese sounds,you could always put the front bov back to stock since its the easiest one to reinstall just to hear if the howl noise is somewhat less pronounced at 40mph,best of luck and keep us updated.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

ZSHO

#23
I would also try to rule out if there is any noise present by the brake booster(check valve)could have a leak contributing to the noise your experiencing,while the car is running try to listen for any hissing sound by the firewall area,the hose highlighted below could have a leak.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

CroR1

Take it to a garage with lift, have them fire it up and put in D, give it a gas, and you should be able to follow the noise from under the car. my guess is on a bearing, whether wheel, PTU/differential, or....

polskifacet

Put the blow off valves back to recirculate. Howl still exists. Putting on the winter tires soon, will report back once that happens.
AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs

ZSHO

I would keep monitoring for any codes set,sometimes they certainly take a while to appear on these cars.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Vortech347

I get a drive train howl similar to gear whine when I first drive my car out of my neighborhood in the morning.  Its very faint.  I'm guessing its part of the awd system.
Matt H.
2013 SHO Performance Pack, Daily, AJPTurbo tuned
2003 SVT Cobra 497rwhp/491rwtq, Self tuned, Cruiser
1990 Mustang GT 570rwhp/530twtq, Self tuned, Open Track
2017 F150 XLT 5.0

glock-coma


Quote from: Vortech347 on November 13, 2015, 04:46:37 PM
I get a drive train howl similar to gear whine when I first drive my car out of my neighborhood in the morning.  Its very faint.  I'm guessing its part of the awd system.
sound like it's time to change the PTU/RDU fluid.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

polskifacet

Quote from: glock-coma on November 13, 2015, 05:10:15 PM

Quote from: Vortech347 on November 13, 2015, 04:46:37 PM
I get a drive train howl similar to gear whine when I first drive my car out of my neighborhood in the morning.  Its very faint.  I'm guessing its part of the awd system.
sound like it's time to change the PTU/RDU fluid.
I just changed them 10ish k ago. Seems to be between 2k and 1k rpm. I get a kind of piuu sound if it up shifts in that range. I don't hear it anywhere else.
AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs