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acceleration dead spot

Started by cseverens, October 08, 2015, 11:03:36 AM

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cseverens

not sure if it's normal, but between 1400-1800 or so rpm, the engine is awful. it doesn't matter if I'm in S or D. anyone else notice that? I do have a tune from torrie, but doubt it's related. it's not from a hard stop. it's if I'm just cruising and press the gas pedal while it's in that range.
2013 Ford Flex Limited E/B

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glock-coma

I think this the rpm range where the ECOBOOST has a very small amount of turbo lag.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

BiGMaC

Agree....Sounds like it could be you're aware of the very slight turbo lag... Stock tune had my turbos becoming effective about 2100-2200 rpm... When I added the Downpipes the spike in TQ and HP rise on the dyno moved down to 1600-1700 rpms... More pull down low. Again this is all stock tuned... After adding the tune with DP adjustment the low end really pulled.

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Blackhawk

I have something similar.  If I am cruising at the same speed for a bit and try to accelerate it doesn't respond.  When it happens I can keep the pedal in the same position for like 5 seconds and it still won't accelerate.  Once I let off and push in again it accelerates just fine. 

 

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: Blackhawk on October 08, 2015, 11:25:03 AM
I have something similar.  If I am cruising at the same speed for a bit and try to accelerate it doesn't respond.  When it happens I can keep the pedal in the same position for like 5 seconds and it still won't accelerate.  Once I let off and push in again it accelerates just fine. 


That happened a lot on the 2013 but hasn't happened on the new one at all.

SHOdded

Response/shift logic change, maybe?
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

cseverens

well, i ordered ppe downpipes 9/1. manufacturer issues result in me not getting them for another 2-3 weeks still(unreal). hopefully that will help once I have those and the magnaflow x pipe installed in place of the 3rd cat.
2013 Ford Flex Limited E/B

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: SHOdded on October 08, 2015, 11:33:00 AM
Response/shift logic change, maybe?
I know something changed, I had completely forgotten about it on the old car till this thread.

I know on the old car when it happened it felt like the car was confused the figured it out and off she went.


ZSHO

#9
I think its that winter blend gas,probably be best to send Torrie a log,probably need a tweak in the tune,sometimes they adjust the throttle blade at various points which they close and open slower to keep from having any issues like hesitation.  Z


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glock-coma


Quote from: Blackhawk on October 08, 2015, 11:25:03 AM
I have something similar.  If I am cruising at the same speed for a bit and try to accelerate it doesn't respond.  When it happens I can keep the pedal in the same position for like 5 seconds and it still won't accelerate.  Once I let off and push in again it accelerates just fine. 


I wonder if doing a throttle pedal recalibration would fix this. I know there was a how to somewhere on the forum.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

gladams

Quote from: glock-coma on October 08, 2015, 12:39:49 PM

Quote from: Blackhawk on October 08, 2015, 11:25:03 AM
I have something similar.  If I am cruising at the same speed for a bit and try to accelerate it doesn't respond.  When it happens I can keep the pedal in the same position for like 5 seconds and it still won't accelerate.  Once I let off and push in again it accelerates just fine. 


I wonder if doing a throttle pedal recalibration would fix this. I know there was a how to somewhere on the forum.
Is this where you turn the car on (do not start car) mash pedal to the floor. Let your foot slide off the side of pedal, to allow pedal to raise fast. Turn off the car and wait 30sec. Start car and drive as normal or like you stole it. I did this and throttle responce was better, not perfect, without a tune.
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Blackhawk

#12
When do they start winterblend gas?  I did just start to notice it in the past month or so.  It's to the point where I am considering detuning and taking it in to the dealer.  If it was the tune I would think I would have always noticed it.

Quote from: ZSHO on October 08, 2015, 11:56:19 AM
I think its that winter blend gas,probably be best to send Torrie a log,probably need a tweak in the tune,sometimes they adjust the throttle blade at various points which they close and open slower to keep from having any issues like hesitation.  Z

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: Blackhawk on October 08, 2015, 12:59:11 PM
When do they start winterblend gas?  I did just start to notice it in the past month or so.

Quote from: ZSHO on October 08, 2015, 11:56:19 AM
I think its that winter blend gas,probably be best to send Torrie a log,probably need a tweak in the tune,sometimes they adjust the throttle blade at various points which they close and open slower to keep from having any issues like hesitation.  Z
I think BND Bryan said 9/15

ZSHO

#14
Quote from: Blackhawk on October 08, 2015, 12:59:11 PM
When do they start winterblend gas?  I did just start to notice it in the past month or so.  It's to the point where I am considering detuning and taking it in to the dealer.  If it was the tune I would think I would have always noticed it.

Quote from: ZSHO on October 08, 2015, 11:56:19 AM
I think its that winter blend gas,probably be best to send Torrie a log,probably need a tweak in the tune,sometimes they adjust the throttle blade at various points which they close and open slower to keep from having any issues like hesitation.  Z
Based on this report the (winter blend)gasoline officially started on 9/16/15.  Z          http://www.atlasoil.com/Blog/Winter-Blend-Gasoline-is-on-its-Way Hope this helps any.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|