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Started by SHOmeur, October 07, 2015, 02:55:54 AM

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SHOmeur

October 07, 2015, 02:55:54 AM
Probably a stupid question but it's something I'm not 100% sure about...

I have to bring my car in for some warranty work (not power train related) but I'm sure they will hook up to the diagnostics.

Just in case I want to flash my car with the stock tune, my question is is the stock map sensor needed or will the car be fine if I keep my 3 bar sensor in with the stock tune?

FoMoCoSHO

#1
October 07, 2015, 03:09:26 AM
You have to put the 2 bar back in.

BiGMaC

#2
October 07, 2015, 07:04:47 AM
FoMoCo is correct.... Having accidentally left the 3Bar in once when I flashed to stock.... The car ran, but acted like it had only upper gears in D and shift from R to D was an incredibly hard and shook the car... You don't even want to know....

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

FoMoCoSHO

#3
October 07, 2015, 07:08:42 AM
Quote from: BiGMaC on October 07, 2015, 07:04:47 AM
FoMoCo is correct.... Having accidentally left the 3Bar in once when I flashed to stock.... The car ran, but acted like it had only upper gears in D and shift from R to D was an incredibly hard and shook the car... You don't even want to know....
Did you have to change your shorts before you figured out what was wrong?

SHOnUup

#4
October 07, 2015, 07:19:45 AM Last Edit: October 07, 2015, 08:49:40 AM by SHOnUup
The dealer will see your flash back to stock...looks like a battery disconnect.

I'd mention to them to check the battery and say you had it on a charger the day you flashed it back to stock...play the game

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12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

USMCSHO341

#5
October 07, 2015, 09:20:21 AM
I'm glad someone asked this question I was wondering about it myself but felt stupid to ask.


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ZSHO

#6
October 07, 2015, 10:45:40 AM
Quote from: USMCSHO341 on October 07, 2015, 09:20:21 AM
I'm glad someone asked this question I was wondering about it myself but felt stupid to ask.


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Livernois Motorsports

#7
October 07, 2015, 11:13:14 AM
I include a specific note to all customers that I personally set up with our 3 bar tunes in regards to this question to help out. The note includes a photo of the correct location to install it and a reminder that the sensor is tune dependent so they must load the tune before starting the car when the sensor is installed.  I also mention that the 2 bar MAP must be re-installed before starting the vehicle after flashing back to stock. 

I have found sending this note has drastically cut down on the amount of calls / emails we get from people that have installed the sensor near the throttle and think there is something wrong with their tunes.  You would be shocked how many people want to argue the fact that they made a mistake and claim " I know I installed the sensor correctly, it HAS to be your tune's fault".  Then once I am able to calm them down and explain the location is under the engine cover that they never removed it all starts to make sense to them. 

SHOmeur

#8
October 07, 2015, 07:30:36 PM
Quote from: SHOnUup on October 07, 2015, 07:19:45 AM
The dealer will see your flash back to stock...looks like a battery disconnect.

I'd mention to them to check the battery and say you had it on a charger the day you flashed it back to stock...play the game

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its only going in to get the hubs checked and a vibration at highway speeds (wheel balance most likely) so I'm not to worried if they see. i just want it back to stock for that "just in case" moment.

BiGMaC

#9
October 08, 2015, 10:52:28 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on October 07, 2015, 07:08:42 AM
Quote from: BiGMaC on October 07, 2015, 07:04:47 AM
FoMoCo is correct.... Having accidentally left the 3Bar in once when I flashed to stock.... The car ran, but acted like it had only upper gears in D and shift from R to D was an incredibly hard and shook the car... You don't even want to know....
Did you have to change your shorts before you figured out what was wrong?
Actually I freaked... The Manu asked if I still had the 3BAR in... 2min and all was well... Then changed the shorts and showered off my legs.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOdded

#10
October 08, 2015, 11:17:51 AM
TMI :P
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

FoMoCoSHO

#11
October 08, 2015, 11:34:22 AM
Quote from: BiGMaC on October 08, 2015, 10:52:28 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on October 07, 2015, 07:08:42 AM
Quote from: BiGMaC on October 07, 2015, 07:04:47 AM
FoMoCo is correct.... Having accidentally left the 3Bar in once when I flashed to stock.... The car ran, but acted like it had only upper gears in D and shift from R to D was an incredibly hard and shook the car... You don't even want to know....
Did you have to change your shorts before you figured out what was wrong?
Actually I freaked... The Manu asked if I still had the 3BAR in... 2min and all was well... Then changed the shorts and showered off my legs.
Sounds like the zero degree day I had E40+ ish on my E30 tune...it was lots of fun till the car ECM said HELL NO....

When people talk about these cars being able to protect themselves, they aren't joking, lol.

But damn it was a monster while the fun lasted.

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