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Started by salsathe4th, August 13, 2015, 02:16:12 PM

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salsathe4th

Just got my 2010 MKS ecoboost and love it so far. :D I want to ask because it has 85,000 what kind of system update (flushing, replacing, testing) should i do to get this thing running the best it can.
"Do or do not, there is no try"         2010 MKS, 22" Motiv Maranello Rims, Mdesign CAI with VTA, LMS 4X tune and lovin' it
-master yoda

BiGMaC

#1
Welcome!  :WELCOME:
You'll love the ride!

Unless you know how it was driven (or beat on) and have the service records....Beyond the obvious, I'd recommend a low volatility motor oil (Amsoil or Pennzoil would be my first choices), check-clean-gap plugs (motorcraft OEMs are fine), and to clean as well as change fluid in tranny and PTU.  I'd ask a ford dealer to see if the ECM software is current and have that updated... at least on the SHO there has been an update in the last year. The same might apply to your SYNC. Consider BG service also for the particular needs of a GDI engine.

Check the cabin and seat HVAC filters too.

Check the TSB/recall list posted here... and/or register your car with FMC to check and be sure all have been applied. I have found that I often found out about these from FMC before my SA knew of them.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

salsathe4th

ive got the service records for 60,000 miles of its life (second owner drove it 28,000 miles a year D:)
"Do or do not, there is no try"         2010 MKS, 22" Motiv Maranello Rims, Mdesign CAI with VTA, LMS 4X tune and lovin' it
-master yoda

glock-coma

#3
Welcome fellow NE Ohioan !! I'm just south of Cleveland.   
O-H-I-O !!!

BIGMaC is spot on with his recommendations.
Car looks great. The ultimate sleeper once she gets a tune.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

SHOdded

Update the PCM calibrations to latest.

Trans - PTU - RDU the awesome triumivrate of the AWD GO system :)

Check all hoses & clamps at this time.  Turbo hoses are notorious for splitting or coming loose.

Check and empty the intercooler if necessary.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

salsathe4th

Quote from: BiGMaC on August 13, 2015, 02:50:15 PM
Welcome!  :WELCOME:
You'll love the ride!

Unless you know how it was driven (or beat on) and have the service records....Beyond the obvious, I'd recommend a low volatility motor oil (Amsoil or Pennzoil would be my first choices), check-clean-gap plugs (motorcraft OEMs are fine), and to clean as well as change fluid in tranny and PTU.  I'd ask a ford dealer to see if the ECM software is current and have that updated... at least on the SHO there has been an update in the last year. The same might apply to your SYNC. Consider BG service also for the particular needs of a GDI engine.

Check the cabin and seat HVAC filters too.

Check the TSB/recall list posted here... and/or register your car with FMC to check and be sure all have been applied. I have found that I often found out about these from FMC before my SA knew of them.

so i WOT from a stop and it didnt change out of first gear till 5,500 or so which i felt was way to high and low and behold the CEL comes on and i scan the codes to find the codes p0300 c1001 p3001 c1000 which means that it misfired, probably just the spark plugs right?

i plan on getting these spark plugs http://www.amazon.com/Motorcraft-SP-528-Spark-Plug-CYFS-12-Y3/dp/B00A2U4K90

and i plan on giving it to the dealership that worked on the car most of its life to get the spark plugs in along with flushing the tranny and ptu.
any estimate on the cost?
"Do or do not, there is no try"         2010 MKS, 22" Motiv Maranello Rims, Mdesign CAI with VTA, LMS 4X tune and lovin' it
-master yoda

SHOdded

Yeah, wait till you put new plugs in:  SP534 is the latest spec, SP528 is old spec.  The 534's usually come pregapped at 0.030 which is perfect for a tune.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorcraft-SP534-Spark-Plug/dp/B009B5ROYU/

5,500 rpm is fine, no problem.  Once tuned, raising to even 6,000 rpm before the shift is not a problem.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

salsathe4th

Quote from: SHOdded on August 14, 2015, 10:33:32 AM
Yeah, wait till you put new plugs in:  SP534 is the latest spec, SP528 is old spec.  The 534's usually come pregapped at 0.030 which is perfect for a tune.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorcraft-SP534-Spark-Plug/dp/B009B5ROYU/

5,500 rpm is fine, no problem.  Once tuned, raising to even 6,000 rpm before the shift is not a problem.

they say they are gapped at .035 :/ which is fine for now
"Do or do not, there is no try"         2010 MKS, 22" Motiv Maranello Rims, Mdesign CAI with VTA, LMS 4X tune and lovin' it
-master yoda

SHOdded

Is the dealership saying that? Or did you read it somewhere?  My impression was that people checked the gap from factory (0.030) and it did not need to be changed.  Folks?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Livernois Motorsports

Quote from: salsathe4th on August 13, 2015, 02:16:12 PM
Just got my 2010 MKS ecoboost and love it so far. :D I want to ask because it has 85,000 what kind of system update (flushing, replacing, testing) should i do to get this thing running the best it can.

Welcome to the board from the crew here at Livernois Motorsports!

Sounds like the guys on here pretty much covered the bases on what you should look over on your ride.  Feel free to give us a shout if there is anything we can help you with.  These vehicles are so much fun to drive with simple mods to start with like a tune and cold air intake.  We have some great bundle packages for the SHO / MKS to help take that sleeper to the next level of awesomeness. 

salsathe4th

Quote from: SHOdded on August 14, 2015, 10:40:21 AM
Is the dealership saying that? Or did you read it somewhere?  My impression was that people checked the gap from factory (0.030) and it did not need to be changed.  Folks?

the amazon page you linked says that those are gapped at .035 and that they fit my 2010 mks
"Do or do not, there is no try"         2010 MKS, 22" Motiv Maranello Rims, Mdesign CAI with VTA, LMS 4X tune and lovin' it
-master yoda

BiGMaC

Quote from: salsathe4th on August 17, 2015, 09:20:59 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on August 14, 2015, 10:40:21 AM
Is the dealership saying that? Or did you read it somewhere?  My impression was that people checked the gap from factory (0.030) and it did not need to be changed.  Folks?

the amazon page you linked says that those are gapped at .035 and that they fit my 2010 mks
.035 is OEM gap... You are correct. If you tune you should regap to .028-.030 

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

salsathe4th

Quote from: BiGMaC on August 17, 2015, 09:35:23 AM
Quote from: salsathe4th on August 17, 2015, 09:20:59 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on August 14, 2015, 10:40:21 AM
Is the dealership saying that? Or did you read it somewhere?  My impression was that people checked the gap from factory (0.030) and it did not need to be changed.  Folks?

the amazon page you linked says that those are gapped at .035 and that they fit my 2010 mks
.035 is OEM gap... You are correct. If you tune you should regap to .028-.030

thanks  :icon_razz: also is it necesasry to change the ptu and rdu fluid? looking around the forum shows it being a huge hassle  :axe:
"Do or do not, there is no try"         2010 MKS, 22" Motiv Maranello Rims, Mdesign CAI with VTA, LMS 4X tune and lovin' it
-master yoda

BiGMaC

Quote from: salsathe4th on August 17, 2015, 09:46:12 AM
Quote from: BiGMaC on August 17, 2015, 09:35:23 AM
Quote from: salsathe4th on August 17, 2015, 09:20:59 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on August 14, 2015, 10:40:21 AM
Is the dealership saying that? Or did you read it somewhere?  My impression was that people checked the gap from factory (0.030) and it did not need to be changed.  Folks?

the amazon page you linked says that those are gapped at .035 and that they fit my 2010 mks
.035 is OEM gap... You are correct. If you tune you should regap to .028-.030

thanks  :icon_razz: also is it necesasry to change the ptu and rdu fluid? looking around the forum shows it being a huge hassle  :axe:
IMHO... Yes, especially with 85K miles and no records. The hassle is FMC saying not to do it on the PTU until 100K miles. There is not even a drain plug on the PTU...so a change is actually a flush and repeat several times process, or taking the unit off the car and dismantling to clean. My dealer won't do it because if they do Ford says their service was done improperly and leaves the dealer liable... But the service techs all seem to agree that no fluid will last that long. Failures aren't common, but when they do the fluid looks like very thick chocolate than is hardley a liquid. Many change the RDU fluid at 10K-25K intervals or annually.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOdded

Due to the miniscule amount of fluid used in the PTU, it is best to do frequent fluid changes (every 25-30K miles or so for PTU).  The RDU has a bit more fluid, and is usually not as stressed, but still would not go longer than 50K before a change.  If you are comfortable with having the car on jackstands, or can rent a bay with a lift, the "hassle" is greatly reduced!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!