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Warped and undersized rotors.

Started by snaf2u, August 06, 2015, 11:51:52 AM

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snaf2u

My 2013 PP SHO recently has symptoms of warped rotors, vibration and noise when breaking. Gets worse the faster I am moving, of course. Car has 19,000 miles on it and has been down the 1/4 about 20 times but no road course use. Took to a local dealer I have a good relationship with. They found the rear rotors are indeed warped.

They thought they would just turn them but when thickness was checked the rotors are already undersized. At 19,000 I can only assume (there is that word) that this car has either the wrong rotors on it or is equipped with defective parts. New parts arrive today so I may know more later. I hope this is an isolated case and no one else has had this problem but I wanted to let others know of my experience.
2013 SHO red w/PP. Stock with Livernois stage 4 tune using the 93 octane new revision tune. Best of 12.79 @ 106 on 5-01-15 at US131 dragway, Martin, Michigan.

donky4444

At least yours will get covered under warranty.  I know on the 2010-12 models the factory brakes suck.
2017 Lincoln MKZ 3.0tt with LMS tune

2014 SHO 402a PP 20" flower wheels. LME  tune, 3 bar MAP, LED Puddle Lights and LED DRL's from Drive Bright, tinted head and tail lights, gloss black vinyl wrapped all chrome with custom chrome SHO emblems front and rear. SOLD

2015 X Sport LME 3 bar tune, LED Puddle and plate lights

snaf2u

Quote from: donky4444 on August 06, 2015, 11:55:14 AM
At least yours will get covered under warranty.  I know on the 2010-12 models the factory brakes suck.

Hey Don, I`m lucky it is now but I should not have this with the PP at all. Brakes had been very good. Oh well , no damage or pain suffered.

See ya at the track when it cools off???
2013 SHO red w/PP. Stock with Livernois stage 4 tune using the 93 octane new revision tune. Best of 12.79 @ 106 on 5-01-15 at US131 dragway, Martin, Michigan.

SHOdded

The rear brakes are engaged more often in today's cars than ever before.  The more you use them when traction control or AWD is required, the more they will wear.  The rear calipers are also notorious for sticking and burning out the rotors/pads early.  Time to get the brake fluid flushed too :)
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

snaf2u

Quote from: SHOdded on August 06, 2015, 12:45:41 PM
The rear brakes are engaged more often in today's cars than ever before.  The more you use them when traction control or AWD is required, the more they will wear.  The rear calipers are also notorious for sticking and burning out the rotors/pads early.  Time to get the brake fluid flushed too :)

At 19,000 miles!
2013 SHO red w/PP. Stock with Livernois stage 4 tune using the 93 octane new revision tune. Best of 12.79 @ 106 on 5-01-15 at US131 dragway, Martin, Michigan.

SHOdded

Gotta look at miles AND years.  If you were in sunny FL or someplace they don't salt the roads regularly in the winter, I'd be less concerned.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

r1crusher

I also have a '13 but non-PP and I bought mine CPO w/ about 14k miles on it.  Ever since day one the brakes were never to my liking and it now has 40k miles on it.  In the past 20k miles I'd say the brakes have been the worst and I'm certain they are warped to hell and back.  Just one solid moderate braking stop/slowdown and they'll make the whole front of the car shake it's so bad now.  I would love to put on some EBC's but I can drop that kind of $$$ on brakes.
'13 SHO, AJP Tune w/ 3-Bar
'17 F-250 6.7 PowerStroke
'17 XSport

CL Donttry

I have the EBC upgrade with slotted and drilled rotors and they make a world of difference I bought them for about $700.00 from O'Reilly auto parts of all places they had them in stock.
Dbad1
2012 Taurus SHO modified, K&N CAI,3bar,LMS thermostat, NGK gapped plugs, Unleased DP, LMS Thunderstorm Cat back,LMS 4 plus tune, EBC slotted cross drilled rotors, MGP caliper covers, SHO hood graphics, Chrome grill inserts, Continential Purecontact tires
2010 BMW 528 Xdrive
2015 GMC Sierra SLE

HtrdMKS

Haven't tried them on the MKS or SHO but I'very had good luck with BrakeMotive (on Ebay). I've put them on 96 Mustang GT, Escape, and dad's Grand Caravan.  They have them listed for 2012 and older SHO's (even PP) front and rear drilled/slotted for $200 for all 4. Someone on a budget might want to give them a try.
2013 EcoBoost MKS, Tux Black, No Mods - Yet

IHeartGroceries

Read this...

http://www.stoptech.com/technical-support/technical-white-papers/-warped-brake-disc-and-other-myths

Totally debunked multiple "myths" I'd believe we're fact for many years.

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2013 SHO PP

snaf2u

Part number on old rotors were not correct for this car. Rotors replaced and now have the smooth stops I expect. No cost to me as expected.
2013 SHO red w/PP. Stock with Livernois stage 4 tune using the 93 octane new revision tune. Best of 12.79 @ 106 on 5-01-15 at US131 dragway, Martin, Michigan.

SHOdded

Really!  I wonder how many others have this same exact issue!  Good to know info, snaf2u, thanks!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

donky4444

Quote from: snaf2u on August 08, 2015, 12:10:28 AM
Part number on old rotors were not correct for this car. Rotors replaced and now have the smooth stops I expect. No cost to me as expected.

WOW! That was from the factory that way? 
2017 Lincoln MKZ 3.0tt with LMS tune

2014 SHO 402a PP 20" flower wheels. LME  tune, 3 bar MAP, LED Puddle Lights and LED DRL's from Drive Bright, tinted head and tail lights, gloss black vinyl wrapped all chrome with custom chrome SHO emblems front and rear. SOLD

2015 X Sport LME 3 bar tune, LED Puddle and plate lights

ZSHO

I would definetly also check to see if any of those stick on weights came off the rims due to heat exposure or sometimes before balancing the rims they dont clean the brake dust and dirt thoroughly causing the weights(magnets)to fall off.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

snaf2u

I tried to get more info from the shop but they are no longer talking. I really don`t care as no real problems came from it but I did just want to let anyone who cared about it know. Hopefully there are no more anywhere and I am wasting my time.

Other than the noise and vibration the brakes worked as they should and don`t seem to be better now than they were before. I lost the symptoms but don`t seem to have gained better brakes.

Good motoring to all!!!
2013 SHO red w/PP. Stock with Livernois stage 4 tune using the 93 octane new revision tune. Best of 12.79 @ 106 on 5-01-15 at US131 dragway, Martin, Michigan.