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Started by mystery101, May 10, 2015, 03:11:55 PM

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mystery101

May 10, 2015, 03:11:55 PM
I've been having issues with my 14PP where tune or non tune the trans will have a harsh clunking downshift; The issue escalated recently where now I have wacky wheel and it pulls left or right depending on road condition's and following this the front tires seem to be loosing tread at an escalated rate. Backing up from a parking spot(worse on hills, or french drain driveway) the car will jolt as if the car hit something and you can hear a loud bang in the front and rear end.   

After taking this car to its 3rd dealer(every single one giving me issues so far) they blamed this on the pop ting tsb for the front axle nuts. I told them this is a issue with the driveline around the PTU. I had to come in and demonstrate this to the mechanic and he explained it may be tires, I asked him to check for bad mounts or play in the diff/ptu/driveshaft; He turned the driveshaft almost more than a 1/4 turn and it makes a loud binding sound in the ptu(he said it was 'normal') The dealer then checked the tire tread improperly(From the wearbars) saying my back tires are bald, and that the front tires aren't even with the rears(Caused by this drive-line problem, and that I need to replace them before they do any more diagnosis) I threw a fit and told them to write down ford's customer service number for me and ill ask them if this is correct. A friend of mine got under the car and discovered that the entire driveline has excessive play with the e-brake on and going between drive and reverse, The transmission moves the entire driveshaft up an inch and the rear diff also binds with this.. 

My question is, are there common mounts failing on these transmissions that would cause it? or maybe its both a mount and the ptu going bad at the same time..
2016 SHO- Ruby Red - Performance Pack (Mods: 170*F Thermostat, 3Bar Map, NGK .28 colder plugs, JLT PCV catch can, OBX downpipes, GEARHEAD e30 tune!)

SHOdded

#1
May 10, 2015, 05:44:23 PM
Time to find a new dealer, I think.  Sounds like very much like the PTU is having issues, which could put extra wear & tear on the trans mounts also.  So if you fix the mounts but not the PTU, you've fixed the cart, but not the horse.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

mystery101

#2
May 10, 2015, 06:00:42 PM Last Edit: May 11, 2015, 11:43:44 AM by mystery101
Every dealer i've been to takes the easy way out and will fix one issue before the other and sometimes the other issue is not pronounced so they ignore it.. As far as these issues, I really hope ford will offer at least a discount on a new set of tires, I just bought these tires 3 months ago and the fronts are down to the wearbars and that's on 440 treadwear all season(what had to settle for at that time). I don't know how long it will be before a major failure occurs here..
2016 SHO- Ruby Red - Performance Pack (Mods: 170*F Thermostat, 3Bar Map, NGK .28 colder plugs, JLT PCV catch can, OBX downpipes, GEARHEAD e30 tune!)

SHOdded

#3
May 10, 2015, 06:41:46 PM
Have you tried these two dealerships?  dealerrater.com has them rated well for sales/service.  But I guess you will have to start somewhere.  If you feel you are stymied with the Ford guys, try the Lincoln counterparts.  Usually friendlier and more knowledgeable, including their Customer Service line.

Gary Yeomans Ford Lincoln
1420 N Tomoka Farms Rd., Daytona Beach, Florida 32124

Sales: (866) 200-5089
Service: (866) 200-3044
Parts: (866) 200-3044

Makes: Ford|Lincoln|Service Center

Showroom Hours: 10:30 AM - 6:30 PM

Mullinax Ford of New Smyrna
1307 N Dixie Freeway, New Smyrna Beach, Florida 32168

Sales: (888) 418-4267
Service: (800) 588-0275
Parts: (386) 409-7285

Makes: Ford|Mercury|Service Center
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

jtoddk98

#4
May 10, 2015, 06:52:05 PM

Quote from: SHOdded on May 10, 2015, 06:41:46 PM
Have you tried these two dealerships?  dealerrater.com has them rated well for sales/service.  But I guess you will have to start somewhere.  If you feel you are stymied with the Ford guys, try the Lincoln counterparts.  Usually friendlier and more knowledgeable, including their Customer Service line.

Gary Yeomans Ford Lincoln
1420 N Tomoka Farms Rd., Daytona Beach, Florida 32124

Sales: (866) 200-5089
Service: (866) 200-3044
Parts: (866) 200-3044

Makes: Ford|Lincoln|Service Center

Showroom Hours: 10:30 AM - 6:30 PM

Mullinax Ford of New Smyrna
1307 N Dixie Freeway, New Smyrna Beach, Florida 32168

Sales: (888) 418-4267
Service: (800) 588-0275
Parts: (386) 409-7285

Makes: Ford|Mercury|Service Center
I've been to the Mullinax in New Smyrna, my uncle lives 5 mins away. Nice people. My grandma takes her MKX to the Gary Yeomans, also a nice dealer


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mystery101

#5
May 11, 2015, 01:01:09 AM Last Edit: May 11, 2015, 01:05:34 AM by mystery101
Mullinax is always backed up 2-3 weeks on appointments(unable to set my day off that far ahead without leave)  Palm coast likes to replace with similar parts; like a brake switch that didn't sit right and front end parts like strut mount bushings without checking alignment/roadtesting, & Gary Yeomans left a bad taste in my mouth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYUoCmqgWsY
"Can see the way he drives it" So a raccoon causing 3K in damage is totally my fault..
2016 SHO- Ruby Red - Performance Pack (Mods: 170*F Thermostat, 3Bar Map, NGK .28 colder plugs, JLT PCV catch can, OBX downpipes, GEARHEAD e30 tune!)

glock-coma

#6
May 11, 2015, 10:32:32 AM
The GM of that dealer would be the first person to see that video. It would not go well for anyone involved.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

mystery101

#7
May 11, 2015, 11:42:40 AM Last Edit: May 11, 2015, 11:45:37 AM by mystery101
Been there done that. They gave me 85k premium care warranty with convenient deductible and nothing happened to the 2 mechanics except reprimand (bumped into a step daughter of the guy in my car at an scca event) and 2 weeks ago the gm was arrested because he stole from ford and  the comissions toward the salespeople. Honestly ive had issues with this car since day one. And I think I have had issues with every dealer is they dont take a 20 year old owning an sho seriously.
2016 SHO- Ruby Red - Performance Pack (Mods: 170*F Thermostat, 3Bar Map, NGK .28 colder plugs, JLT PCV catch can, OBX downpipes, GEARHEAD e30 tune!)

wasinger3000

#8
May 11, 2015, 11:56:20 AM
Quote from: mystery101 on May 11, 2015, 11:42:40 AM
Been there done that. They gave me 85k premium care warranty with convenient deductible and nothing happened to the 2 mechanics except reprimand (bumped into a step daughter of the guy in my car at an scca event) and 2 weeks ago the gm was arrested because he stole from ford and  the comissions toward the salespeople. Honestly ive had issues with this car since day one. And I think I have had issues with every dealer is they dont take a 20 year old owning an sho seriously.
I've had that issue too. They don't take the younger guys seriously.

I usually end up calling ford corporate if I have an issue that won't get fixed. Have you tried calling them?
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

mystery101

#9
May 11, 2015, 12:01:49 PM
3 times now.  I called immediately after leaving the last dealer and they want me to go to another one to get a second opinion...  wow...
2016 SHO- Ruby Red - Performance Pack (Mods: 170*F Thermostat, 3Bar Map, NGK .28 colder plugs, JLT PCV catch can, OBX downpipes, GEARHEAD e30 tune!)

nickstewartroc

#10
May 11, 2015, 01:10:42 PM
I know the service department at Mullinax of Apopka doesn't take to kindly to 20 year olds either. Took my Fusion Sport there last year to get the tire fixed and they messed up one of my rims and when brought up, even to the service manager, they told me I had no idea what I was talking about and how could a "kid" know better than their service department. Needless to say, I will never give them my service again!
Current:
2013 Ruby Red Flex Limited EcoBoost, Unleashed Tuned, drop in filter

Gone but not forgotten: 2011 SHO Non-PP in Black Tuxedo Metallic - Catback, DPs, Stoptech Z23s, MDesign CAI, LMS Tune

Drewstang

#11
May 16, 2015, 04:53:24 PM
Mystery, what dash cam is that? The playback quality is awesome.
2010 SHO PP- Ingot Silver and Bone Stock for now

mystery101

#12
May 17, 2015, 05:00:52 PM
The video isn't that high quality, I Threw up a non raw file in a hurry. Its a G1W They go from 20-70 on amazon depending on how valid the source is(there are good lookin fakes out there) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdMHY04g9O4 < What it looks like at night.. Good thing it doesn't have a GPS XD

As far as my problem goes; for some strange reason the issues in reverse and hard shifting disappeared, but the random pulling continues. Faulty PCM learn at the time?

2016 SHO- Ruby Red - Performance Pack (Mods: 170*F Thermostat, 3Bar Map, NGK .28 colder plugs, JLT PCV catch can, OBX downpipes, GEARHEAD e30 tune!)

mystery101

#13
June 13, 2015, 08:04:03 PM
Dealer couldn't find the issue with the driveline, yet I had instructed them to check the alignment and that was the cause of the wacky wheel; The dealer gave me BFG Sport Comp2's all around for about $480 (kept the old tires, good tread still) to see if the tires were causing the issue. 1500 miles later near 30K the transmission is failing, once the trans gets warm there's a loud whining sound that is similar to a supercharger, Later on the trans will slip and slam gears, go in and out of a soft limp mode. Anything over 110 causes a silent limp mode(sport/paddle shifters inoperable) until slowing down to 70..

Off to the dealer again I go..

Ill haven't had the car a full year yet until June 24'th and the car has had 5 injectors replaced, 2 washer pumps, 2 brake switches, 2 Steering Wheels, Pass and Driver plastic sides on seat, Driver side mirror autodim failed/leaked, 1 set of hubs & 8 attempts at getting hub/click tsb performed properly, factory bent downpipe replaced along with flex pipes. Now a transmission failure. Been to 4 different dealerships, Three with bad advisors and mechanics that feel free to speak their mind and do whatever infront of a dashcam.. Wonder if I could write out a big statement to dearborn..
2016 SHO- Ruby Red - Performance Pack (Mods: 170*F Thermostat, 3Bar Map, NGK .28 colder plugs, JLT PCV catch can, OBX downpipes, GEARHEAD e30 tune!)

SHOdded

#14
June 13, 2015, 10:46:21 PM
Def the car has issues, but I'd say the dud of a dealer hasn't done you any favors either.  You SHOULD write about the whole shebang to Ford.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!
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