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Has anyone done aftermarket pads and rotors on a 13+ PP?

Started by sunwolf, March 25, 2015, 04:48:40 PM

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FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: sunwolf on March 31, 2015, 04:58:14 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on March 28, 2015, 11:53:41 PM
The cost of the PP package alone is a clue the brakes are the same.

I think Ford typically offers great value with their option packages, but for 1300.00 I doubt very seriously I'm getting completely different brakes along with all the other awesomeness.

Tire rack shows no differentiation between the two.

Car and drivers says....pads only.

"The engine and transmission remain essentially unchanged since, but our 2013 model had the SHO Performance package ($1995), which adds an improved cooling system, high-performance brake pads, 20-inch aluminum wheels wearing Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperCar 245/45 rubber, specially calibrated electric power steering, a "true off" track mode for the electronic stability control, and a 3.16:1 final-drive ratio (stand­ard issue is 2.77:1) to improve acceleration."

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2013-ford-taurus-sho-instrumented-test-review

I wholeheartedly agree with the guys saying change pads only.

I really would like to put those beautiful Powerstops on but I have serious anxiety about messing with the brakes

Too many "brake upgrades" end up being downgrades in my experiences.

Honestly both cars feel the same stopping power wise, the only difference is the PP pads seem to need a little heat before they bite the same.

Which is probably why they are more suitable for the track.
I noticed that the performance pack got cheaper on the 15s. Did they downgrade something?
Not that I can tell. 

Mac98SHO

I would venture it has to due with cost going down since the 13 was first year they offered it with these mods, and the car is basically a police car minus few things. So demand has driven production cost down, there are more police cars now since 2013... just a guess though.
2013 SHO w/Performance Package (Tuxedo Black)
Air Raid Intake
X-pipe with Stock Mufflers
X4 SCT w/Unleashed Tunes

IHeartGroceries

Quote from: sunwolf on March 26, 2015, 11:32:01 AM
"The brakes get a larger master cylinder bore for a pedal ratio change that gives you less travel at the top of the pedal for a firmer feel, and the rear vented brake rotors are 30 percent larger. The already massive vented front rotors get dual piston 48-mm calipers with performance friction pads, and the pistons themselves have high-temp dust boots and seals that pull the pads more effectively away from the discs for less heat buildup." From road and track review of the 13 with PP - http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a18234/2013-ford-taurus-sho-with-performance-package/

And From the ford website:
Not sure if the 15 PP has even bigger brakes or if it is the same as 13 and 14.
Late to to party...

But this description applies to the brake upgrades made to 13 plus models, both PP and non.
I've never driven a pre 13. While my 13 PP stops well for such a heavy car, I wouldn't exactly describe them as exemplary. Can't imagine how the pre 13s feel. Heh
2013 SHO PP

2011TAURUSSEL

For what its worth I just ordered Brake Performance  full set of Slotted Rotors and Ceramic pads on all four corners of my 13 SEL.   I will advise when installed and "Ops Checked"  $355.17 for the set.

CL Donttry

I have EBC slotted and drilled rotors on my with the performance pads 2012 and love them and it cost me $1000.00 installed.
Dbad1
2012 Taurus SHO modified, K&N CAI,3bar,LMS thermostat, NGK gapped plugs, Unleased DP, LMS Thunderstorm Cat back,LMS 4 plus tune, EBC slotted cross drilled rotors, MGP caliper covers, SHO hood graphics, Chrome grill inserts, Continential Purecontact tires
2010 BMW 528 Xdrive
2015 GMC Sierra SLE

FoMoCoSHO

Here's the 2013 Taurus product sheet....

http://www.at.ford.com/news/Publications/Publications/2013TaurusSHO.pdf

Different pads only as the entire line was beefed up.

So aftermarket pads and rotors should be the same between PP and non-PP

SHOdded

Power Stop has 2 offerings for 2013:
TOP COP
Front : K6374-37  Front & Rear : K6375-37  Rear : K6376-37
Z23 Evolution Sport
Front : K6374  Front & Rear : K6375  Rear : K6376

Rotors are the same, pads are different:  Z23 for "regular", Z37 for Top Cop
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

wasinger3000

How much of an improvement are the PP pads over the non PP pads? Just higher heat resistance I assume?

I'm debating on getting wither EBC Yellowstuff or the Carbotech XP8 although the XP8'S are double the price they are a premium pads with real track results.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

AJP turbo

Try the ebc blue stuff...they are a track pad for the street and a new line from ebc...had them on my g...they were nice...when my brakes need replaced I will have them again...oh yes I will have them
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wasinger3000

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Quote from: ajpturbo on April 20, 2015, 04:08:13 PM
Try the ebc blue stuff...they are a track pad for the street and a new line from ebc...had them on my g...they were nice...when my brakes need replaced I will have them again...oh yes I will have them
Just looked them up. Looks like a good pad, they don't make them for our cars yet. Just called their office. :/

Did I tell you that Hawk Performace out right told me their website is wrong and they don't make a pad for the SHO and they won't change the part number because it would cost them to much money... hah.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.