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How much is 1%?

Started by sunwolf, March 25, 2015, 12:58:29 PM

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sunwolf

I am considering buying these tires http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Michelin&tireModel=Pilot+Super+Sport&partnum=545YR0PSSXL in size 255-45-R20 the diameter of which is 1% wider than stock. I was thinking of maybe only buying 2 and keeping them on the back until my other two goodyears on the front wear out since they might have another 5k in them. If I adjust the tire pressures do you think I will be ok running 1% larger tires on the back? It seems like the back tires hardly wear at all compared to the fronts so hopefully in 5k when I buy new fronts they will be close to new still.
2014 Taurus SHO Black Performance Pack LMS tune 3bar tstat downpipes
2008 BMW M6 Convertible SMG
2008 F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L
2011 F-150 Ecoboost Crew Cab 4x4
2012 Lincoln Navigator L 4x4

BiGMaC

Likely not enough for you to notice the difference... the stats at Tire Rack should also list diameter and tire revs/mile to give you a better feel for it.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

sunwolf

Didn't think about checking the revs per mile. Tire rack says 729 for stock and 716 for the ones I want to get. I think that this difference is probable small enough that it won't matter. Anyone object before I order them?
2014 Taurus SHO Black Performance Pack LMS tune 3bar tstat downpipes
2008 BMW M6 Convertible SMG
2008 F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L
2011 F-150 Ecoboost Crew Cab 4x4
2012 Lincoln Navigator L 4x4

Frozen Taurus

#3
I have 255/45 on my car now ... never noticed a difference at 1% change

Sorry just read that you want to do only back tires .... I have no experience in that area but I'd imagine that our drivetrain could tolerate a 1% diff
2011 Tuxedo Black SHO non PP, K&N drop in, TCE Big Brake Kit, Megan Racing Coilovers
My other car is a 447 awhp Talon

sunwolf

Quote from: Frozen Taurus on March 25, 2015, 01:38:45 PM
I have 255/45 on my car now ... never noticed a difference at 1% change
But I was going to do 255 on the back and 245 on the front until my fronts wear out. Will that make a difference?
2014 Taurus SHO Black Performance Pack LMS tune 3bar tstat downpipes
2008 BMW M6 Convertible SMG
2008 F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L
2011 F-150 Ecoboost Crew Cab 4x4
2012 Lincoln Navigator L 4x4

SHOdded

#5
Should be fine.  I would be more concerned with traction differences, but as long as you stay away from aggressive driving, no problem.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Frozen Taurus

Quote from: sunwolf on March 25, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: Frozen Taurus on March 25, 2015, 01:38:45 PM
I have 255/45 on my car now ... never noticed a difference at 1% change
But I was going to do 255 on the back and 245 on the front until my fronts wear out. Will that make a difference?

Should be fine for 5K
2011 Tuxedo Black SHO non PP, K&N drop in, TCE Big Brake Kit, Megan Racing Coilovers
My other car is a 447 awhp Talon

BiGMaC

Quote from: Frozen Taurus on March 25, 2015, 02:10:25 PM
Quote from: sunwolf on March 25, 2015, 01:40:40 PM
Quote from: Frozen Taurus on March 25, 2015, 01:38:45 PM
I have 255/45 on my car now ... never noticed a difference at 1% change
But I was going to do 255 on the back and 245 on the front until my fronts wear out. Will that make a difference?

Should be fine for 5K
Many people just run staggered tire sizes... like Mike (bpd)... all the time.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

Frozen Taurus

Wasn't Mikes combo under 1% difference? ...still shouldn't matter
2011 Tuxedo Black SHO non PP, K&N drop in, TCE Big Brake Kit, Megan Racing Coilovers
My other car is a 447 awhp Talon

glock-coma

I remember someone posting here that the all-wheel-drive system is happy as long as it stays below 3% difference. I can't  seem to find the post though.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

SHOdded

I think there may be a blurb in the OM as well somewhere.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

sunwolf

Well I just bought two of the tires. If there is a problem I can always buy the other two.
2014 Taurus SHO Black Performance Pack LMS tune 3bar tstat downpipes
2008 BMW M6 Convertible SMG
2008 F-150 XLT 4x4 5.4L
2011 F-150 Ecoboost Crew Cab 4x4
2012 Lincoln Navigator L 4x4

SHOnUup

The stealership we got our SHO from sent us on our merry way with a front tire that had a plug in the sidewall that was a "rope" plug. Wicks moisture in and theoretically would rot out the steel belt. After having this pointed out, they only replaced that one. Bums. Anyways, I left there and bought another one to have same size on fronts, rears were maybe 60% tread wear left and car didn't care about the slight difference.

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

crash712us

Keep in mind any difference in rolling diameter will cause every part of the AWD system to be constantly work over time. And your reasoning for want to do this looks to insure that this will be happening for many many thousands of miles. 


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2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

HtrdMKS

Plus if you take into consideration the wear on the fronts; since you are down to 5000 miles of wear left, the new tires and the old tires may have the same overall circumference.
2013 EcoBoost MKS, Tux Black, No Mods - Yet