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ElvenSho

March 06, 2015, 12:06:40 PM
Anyone ever had a transmission go out on the SHO? How did it start off before it finally died? In the last two days I noticed twice that my transmission feels like its slipping in 1st gear on takeoff or under 5 mph takeoff.  First time I noticed it the car did not get a chance to warm up and it was very cold out, I was taking a right turn from the stop and when I gave it a bit of gas the car felt very sluggish and it felt like the clutch(on a manual car) is slipping but then all of a sudden it just went back to normal and car took off. The second time this morning I was slowing down to take a left turn and as I slowed down to about 5 mph the road was clear for me to turn but the car would not move when I gave it gas and then a second later it just dropped into gear and took off. Are these symptoms of the transmission going bad or could it be something with my tune? I guess I will have to let Torrie know about it and see what he tells me. I had the tune on the car for less than a month but this is the first two times this happened so I am thinking it's probably not the tune. Oh and I also did a WOT pull just to see if there is any slipping or shifting issues but everything seems to be working fine, weird!
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

wasinger3000

#1
March 06, 2015, 12:30:27 PM
Have you checked your fluid level? Condition of the fluid? Tried to replicate the issue in stock tune?
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
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ElvenSho

#2
March 06, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on March 06, 2015, 12:30:27 PM
Have you checked your fluid level? Condition of the fluid? Tried to replicate the issue in stock tune?

Have not done any of what you asked. I will have to check the fluid, might be time for a transmission flush since its at 56k miles I guess.
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

mval

#3
March 06, 2015, 12:50:11 PM
try the flush first but i had a major issue w/ tranny slipping. yours sounds similar. dealer ran a tsb for it made it lots. lots worst. but have read where it fixed some. if you do & get worst mine turned out to be the tranny speed sensors, there's 2 of them on tranny. there should be a thread on here about my issues, but try the maintenance 1st.
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ElvenSho

#4
March 06, 2015, 12:51:18 PM
Quote from: mval on March 06, 2015, 12:50:11 PM
try the flush first but i had a major issue w/ tranny slipping. yours sounds similar. dealer ran a tsb for it made it lots. lots worst. but have read where it fixed some. if you do & get worst mine turned out to be the tranny speed sensors, there's 2 of them on tranny. there should be a thread on here about my issues, but try the maintenance 1st.

understood thanks!
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

SHOdded

#5
March 06, 2015, 12:59:42 PM Last Edit: March 06, 2015, 01:07:10 PM by SHOdded
If there's a bump or lurch at the low speed before it takes off, there is a TSB 11-5-6 for that.  Also a Transmission Range Sensor TSB 10-21-2.  If that doesn't fix it, next up would be replacement of the TSS and OSS sensors mval mentioned.
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,496
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ElvenSho

#6
March 06, 2015, 02:33:51 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on March 06, 2015, 12:59:42 PM
If there's a bump or lurch at the low speed before it takes off, there is a TSB 11-5-6 for that.  Also a Transmission Range Sensor TSB 10-21-2.  If that doesn't fix it, next up would be replacement of the TSS and OSS sensors mval mentioned.
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,496

Sounds like this is what's happening with my car. I will check the fluid level first and if that's not the problem I might go back to stock and take it in if it keeps happening. Only problem is they will probably want to duplicate the issue which will be hard to do and they will not do a thing about it. If I go back to stock tune do I need to re-gap my plugs from .030? (seems like it would be a lot of work just to have to do it again once I load the tune).  I know I can drive around with the 170* t-stat and I doubt they will know it's not the stock one.
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

Frozen Taurus

#7
March 06, 2015, 02:42:00 PM
Mine does this too....has also got stuck in 2nd gear twice, wouldn't shift up or down. Had to pull over and turn the car off and restart it.

I have not looked into it yet with the dealer but I am going to soon ....starting with the TSB's mentioned here
2011 Tuxedo Black SHO non PP, K&N drop in, TCE Big Brake Kit, Megan Racing Coilovers
My other car is a 447 awhp Talon

ElvenSho

#8
March 06, 2015, 02:45:10 PM
Quote from: Frozen Taurus on March 06, 2015, 02:42:00 PM
Mine does this too....has also got stuck in 2nd gear twice, wouldn't shift up or down. Had to pull over and turn the car off and restart it.

I have not looked into it yet with the dealer but I am going to soon ....starting with the TSB's mentioned here

How many miles does yours have? I wonder if this starts around the same time (50-60k miles)
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

Frozen Taurus

#9
March 06, 2015, 02:53:03 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on March 06, 2015, 02:45:10 PM
Quote from: Frozen Taurus on March 06, 2015, 02:42:00 PM
Mine does this too....has also got stuck in 2nd gear twice, wouldn't shift up or down. Had to pull over and turn the car off and restart it.

I have not looked into it yet with the dealer but I am going to soon ....starting with the TSB's mentioned here

How many miles does yours have? I wonder if this starts around the same time (50-60k miles)

I noticed first at around 50-60,000 kms ....but I am also the second owner so I can't say without a doubt it didn't happen earlier than 40,000 kms
2011 Tuxedo Black SHO non PP, K&N drop in, TCE Big Brake Kit, Megan Racing Coilovers
My other car is a 447 awhp Talon

SHOnUup

#10
March 06, 2015, 04:00:52 PM
Was it you, that had their shifting dialed back ?

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
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ElvenSho

#11
March 06, 2015, 04:37:14 PM
Quote from: SHOnUup on March 06, 2015, 04:00:52 PM
Was it you, that had their shifting dialed back ?

Rich

Yes just the 1st gear, it had the shutter on WOT shift which I thought was wheelspin/hop.
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

SHOdded

#12
March 06, 2015, 04:53:48 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on March 06, 2015, 02:33:51 PM
If I go back to stock tune do I need to re-gap my plugs from .030? (seems like it would be a lot of work just to have to do it again once I load the tune).
For the "short" duration they have the car, I wouldn't worry about it.  Car will run a little richer, which is OK, better than leaner :)
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ElvenSho

#13
March 06, 2015, 04:54:37 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on March 06, 2015, 04:53:48 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on March 06, 2015, 02:33:51 PM
If I go back to stock tune do I need to re-gap my plugs from .030? (seems like it would be a lot of work just to have to do it again once I load the tune).
For the "short" duration they have the car, I wouldn't worry about it.  Car will run a little richer, which is OK, better than leaner :)

I was hoping for this answer, thanks!
2011 Red Taurus SHO- H&R springs, plugs, t-stat, 3bar, LMS dps, tuned by Torrie

SHOnUup

#14
March 06, 2015, 05:05:22 PM
Quote from: ElvenSho on March 06, 2015, 04:37:14 PM
Quote from: SHOnUup on March 06, 2015, 04:00:52 PM
Was it you, that had their shifting dialed back ?

Rich

Yes just the 1st gear, it had the shutter on WOT shift which I thought was wheelspin/hop.
Wondering if the tune cured your TSB issue, and now back at stock (?) level you are feeling it.

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.
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