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Started by Dxlnt1, February 20, 2015, 11:55:21 PM

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Dxlnt1

I am preparing for new exhaust system. I am part of PPE down pipe group buy but considering full exhaust system. The best system I've NOT heard and liked is Shoman04 stock setup. I don't want to be heard. Don't want to intimidate anyone. The turbo whistle will be plenty. Just walk away from them from a dig if need be. (Meth install later maybe?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMHgb4XUPsc&list=UUoaN9HQGdy55_LSqPaRYGXw.

Muffler shop suggests from a cost standpoint I keep factory 2 1/4" system, but replace 3rd resonator/cat with Magna flow X-pipe. Total $300 including DP install and X-pipe install.

My question becomes will the 2 1/4" system sound any louder vs the 2 1/2" setup?

Will there be a back pressure issues if I return car to stock tune for service at dealer?

Since the LMS tune will elimate CEL issues, how bad is actual emissions affected?
2011 SHO, 3 Bar, AJP Turbo-Tune, ACES IV, Boostane 170 T-stat, PPE Catted DP's, Alpine Sound system, Touch screen HVAC controls, full window tint

jayskycj

#1
I just wanted to say that is my EXACT setup and "I like it a lot" (in my Jim Carey voice).

$300 is a fair price, I paid a little less but who cares. I kept the 2 1/4 pipes, it's great and sounds quiet with a little rumble. Check my posts, I linked a YouTube of an engine start.

I've returned to stock a few times, zero issues. I also just passed emissions a couple weeks ago.
2010 LMS Mycal 4X3Bar with K&N typhoon, 170 tstat, 534 plugs gapped .030, PPE Downpipes, magnaflow X Pipe and stock mufflers. Eibach Springs and Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3.

Dxlnt1

2011 SHO, 3 Bar, AJP Turbo-Tune, ACES IV, Boostane 170 T-stat, PPE Catted DP's, Alpine Sound system, Touch screen HVAC controls, full window tint

jayskycj

Yeah that's it, thanks for posting the link!

Btw, what kind of wheels do you have?
2010 LMS Mycal 4X3Bar with K&N typhoon, 170 tstat, 534 plugs gapped .030, PPE Downpipes, magnaflow X Pipe and stock mufflers. Eibach Springs and Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3.

AJP turbo

Jaysky.....You have catted PPE?
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jayskycj

2010 LMS Mycal 4X3Bar with K&N typhoon, 170 tstat, 534 plugs gapped .030, PPE Downpipes, magnaflow X Pipe and stock mufflers. Eibach Springs and Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3.

Dxlnt1

2011 SHO, 3 Bar, AJP Turbo-Tune, ACES IV, Boostane 170 T-stat, PPE Catted DP's, Alpine Sound system, Touch screen HVAC controls, full window tint

AJP turbo

Quote from: Dxlnt1 on February 20, 2015, 11:55:21 PM


Since the LMS tune will elimate CEL issues, how bad is actual emissions affected?

They may eliminate the CEL but if you have emissions testing and rediness monitor tests and you are getting Catless Dpipes then you will still have trouble.
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Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

BiGMaC

#8
DxInt1... I'm happy with the sound using PPE DPs and stock exhaust...very quiet until I get my foot in it, then it can roar if I go say 1/3 throttle or more with sound increasing with right foot pressure. Cruising is without engine noise even with radio off. Some back pressure is good as it seems to prevent leaking turbo seals.... That's why I never installed the exhaust cutout I had built after discussing it with Dan Millen. If you are going catted DPs there is no problem passing emissions as both PPE and LME DP cats have carb numbers. If you are going catless the second O2sensor is turned off in the tune to stop CEL from lighting, but you'll fail the readiness test when OBDII tells them part of the emissions system is not functioning.

Is there a reason you want to replace the stock with a new cat back other than just to do it?

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

Dxlnt1

Quote from: BiGMaC on February 21, 2015, 11:02:20 PM
Is there a reason you want to replace the stock with a new cat back other than just to do it?

No reason or desire to replace anything I don't need to. My concern was with catted DP's, I would still have some restriction on engine breathing. From what you say and others, just the DP's and x-pipe increase flow AND maintain a quiet exhaust.

No need to advertise, just stomp it and go! My 67 RS/SS has built 383 engine. A fire breathing V8 with no noise. At idle, you can only hear a little lobe from cam and whistle from timing gears, but only if standing next to car. But when the hammer drops, the bowels break. So I will maintain the entire stock system except DP's and x-pipe.

As for emissions testing, we get it all here in California. SO with catted pipes, I will have LMS modify my tune accordingly. And since even with no tune, returning car to stock for service by Ford dealer should not be an issue. If questioned, I will claim ignorance and that car must have had it already when I purchased it.
2011 SHO, 3 Bar, AJP Turbo-Tune, ACES IV, Boostane 170 T-stat, PPE Catted DP's, Alpine Sound system, Touch screen HVAC controls, full window tint

Dxlnt1

#10
Catted downpipes installed. A tremendous boost in engine response and responsiveness. Feels quicker. Anyway, here is my sound bytes. Waiting for other video to load then will post link for before install cruise.

Stock exhaust
http://vid860.photobucket.com/albums/ab162/dxlnt1/Video/My%20b4%20exaust_zps8nh0nvlw.mp4

http://vid860.photobucket.com/albums/ab162/dxlnt1/Video/b4install_zpssvm7zixe.mp4

With PPE DP's and magna flow X-pipe
http://vid860.photobucket.com/albums/ab162/dxlnt1/Video/My%20after%20install_zps76vnlyve.mp4

http://vid860.photobucket.com/albums/ab162/dxlnt1/Video/after_zps7hiba3td.mp4
2011 SHO, 3 Bar, AJP Turbo-Tune, ACES IV, Boostane 170 T-stat, PPE Catted DP's, Alpine Sound system, Touch screen HVAC controls, full window tint

AJP turbo

I have catless down pipes and I feel no difference whatsoever tuned and stock....maybe my butt dyno needs calibrated and isn't as good as what others are using
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Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

Dxlnt1

#12
Quote from: ajpturbo on May 05, 2015, 06:20:15 PM
I have catless down pipes and I feel no difference whatsoever tuned and stock....maybe my butt dyno needs calibrated and isn't as good as what others are using

Maybe you're a hard ass! lol

Someone said the DP's shift the power to a lower RPM. Maybe thats what I feel.
2011 SHO, 3 Bar, AJP Turbo-Tune, ACES IV, Boostane 170 T-stat, PPE Catted DP's, Alpine Sound system, Touch screen HVAC controls, full window tint

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Quote from: Dxlnt1 on May 05, 2015, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: ajpturbo on May 05, 2015, 06:20:15 PM
I have catless down pipes and I feel no difference whatsoever tuned and stock....maybe my butt dyno needs calibrated and isn't as good as what others are using

Maybe you're a hard ass! lol

Someone said the DP's shift the power to a lower RPM. Maybe thats what I feel.

Well if someone said that I'd say it has to be true
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

Dxlnt1

2011 SHO, 3 Bar, AJP Turbo-Tune, ACES IV, Boostane 170 T-stat, PPE Catted DP's, Alpine Sound system, Touch screen HVAC controls, full window tint