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Livernois tune with meth vs unleashed tune with meth for 2013 -2014 sho

Started by skinny, January 25, 2015, 06:43:51 AM

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skinny

I have noticed a lot of better 1/4 miles times for the 2013 2014 sho for the people that are using torries tune compared to Livernois tunes! Why is this I have 2014 sho with every option except lowering springs and pp my best time is 12.5 once but most of the time it's 12.6 -12.7? Seen a lot of Tories car running 12.1 and 12.2 that is Abigail difference wondering if anybody else with 2013 and 2014 sho with meth from Livernois is having this problem thanks!
2014 sho Livernois tune stainless works downpipe no cats with stainless work cat back alloy methanol kit from Livernois airaid cold air kit 160 thermostat and map 3bar dynoed at Livernois facility 392 power with 448 torque

ZSHO

If you kindly update your sig,or better yet create one,maybe we can assist you better.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

ZSHO

I am having a meth kit installed soon,but in general there are so many variables at play in order to achieve great ET'S,proper AFR(air fuel ratio)knock readings,compression,detonation,also depending on mileage to check for carbon buildup,elevation,tires,boost pressure,the items mentioned alone will give you poor et's,always recommended new plugs gapped at 0.30 with a 160stat and if your running meth,a few runs on the dyno to monitor your cars output,in order to achieve the most from your car,so basically there are so many factors to take into consideration,one importanly is to have your car checked out,looked at.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

SHOnUup

That is weird, as I've ran a 12.54 on a LME 3bar tune and not much else.

Are you datalogging for tune updates?

Post up some time slips.

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

SHOdded

Just wondering if we tallied the performance of '13+ on meth vs. '10-12 on meth, whether the gains would be comparable or not, regardless of tuner.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

91hybrid

It took a fair amount of data logging to get enough power on meth to hit the low 12's. (And technique)

There a plenty of lme cars hitting those similar or better numbers, however I think for the most part the cars were custom tuned on lme's dyno...basically the same thing as my data logging.

The Torries and lme's Canned tunes are safer... Got to have a good staring point then data log or dyno from there.

Lme patrons will surely chime in on this.
2014 SHO -PP, Unleashed Tuned, 3bar, Devils Own 100% meth, PPE catted down pipes, 3rd cat delete, Magnaflow 2.5" exhaust, 170 deg, NGK 7's plugs, hot pipes - White Platinum 401a
418 whp - 513 wlb/ft
non meth 13.11@103.6 (knock limited)
Meth pass 11.991@114.28

SHOnUup

Those ^^^ were my thoughts (assumptions ).

I imagine technique comes into play much more once you get pass the basic mods. I can't wait!!!!!

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

crash712us

i would like to to see all those 12.1's and 12'2's that you speak off. Cause I only know of 1 torrie tuned cars get those numbers.

2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

ZSHO

I think personally just having Knock/Detonation issues alone will make your car suffer,octane ratings of fuel being used,ambient air conditions and engine inlet conditions affect maximum boost,so basically hot air and high cylinder pressures increases the tendency of an engine to knock,intercooler addresses this concern by cooling the compressed air produced by the turbocharger,when the engine is boosted,(AFR) readings alone are imortant factors to consider,especially if running Meth alone.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

91hybrid

Quote from: crash712us on January 25, 2015, 10:03:52 AM
i would like to to see all those 12.1's and 12'2's that you speak off. Cause I only know of 1 torrie tuned cars get those numbers.

I know of two right now. Myself and Rich ( can't think of his user name).  Both 13+ pp's.
2014 SHO -PP, Unleashed Tuned, 3bar, Devils Own 100% meth, PPE catted down pipes, 3rd cat delete, Magnaflow 2.5" exhaust, 170 deg, NGK 7's plugs, hot pipes - White Platinum 401a
418 whp - 513 wlb/ft
non meth 13.11@103.6 (knock limited)
Meth pass 11.991@114.28

gad

temperature and elevation of the  track is  2 first factor that make a good or bad Temp on track ( car with same mods)
10 SHO, torrie tune, whatermeth , DP catless, H&R spring, t-stat 170, air raid intake, best time 12.19@110 mph.(1.74 0-60ft)

PokerMunkee

Yep, need to see a LME and UT cars run at same track, on same night to get an idea on difference between tunes.  Never will happen.
2013 SHO PP - Ignot Silver/Charcoal
Unleashed 91 tune w/ 3BAR, Corsa exhaust, LEDs everywhere
2011 F-250 6.2 CCSB FX4

91hybrid

Quote from: PokerMunkee on January 25, 2015, 12:09:56 PM
Yep, need to see a LME and UT cars run at same track, on same night to get an idea on difference between tunes.  Never will happen.

SHO convention....😁
2014 SHO -PP, Unleashed Tuned, 3bar, Devils Own 100% meth, PPE catted down pipes, 3rd cat delete, Magnaflow 2.5" exhaust, 170 deg, NGK 7's plugs, hot pipes - White Platinum 401a
418 whp - 513 wlb/ft
non meth 13.11@103.6 (knock limited)
Meth pass 11.991@114.28

Josephm

No one mentioned traction, but when putting down 500+ ft lbs of torque, spinning can affect your 60ft. Which affects your 1/4 mile time.

how much time each tuner has into each car can be big.
12' Flex EB
Unleashed X4
3rd Cat delete

gad

10 SHO, torrie tune, whatermeth , DP catless, H&R spring, t-stat 170, air raid intake, best time 12.19@110 mph.(1.74 0-60ft)