CAI/Short Ram

[bykr]

It looks like K&N doesn't make a Typhoon for the 2010 SHO.Would it be that different?

[DJE624]

Should all be the same for the 10-12.  I'm sure there is somebody here with a 10 that has one.  Hopefully, they will chime in.

[DJE624]

I'm gonna try it.  If anybody wants one at $205 shipped, here is the link.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161135015485?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

I had a Typhoon on my 2012 Limited but I took it out.  I felt that the noise was too much for a more luxury oriented car.  But now with the SHO, I'm thinking I'd like it.  The "oiled" part doesn't bother me.  I've heard the horror stories but I've had K&Ns on at least a dozen cars.

Tod-I know you are driving a Lincoln and have said you may someday get tired of the noise but what would you think of the Typhoon in a SHO?

Well, I am not tired of it yet.  And for an SHO, it seems even more fitting.  Just to be clear on my position, no idea what gains are positive or negative - I have it for the audible and visual "improvements"  The sound is just awesome to me, though I may posssibly tire of it someday, in which case I just put the stock unit back in with my K&N drop in.  In an SHO, I think the sound would be even more welcome due to the generally sportier nature of the car.   

And for oiled/non oiled - I agree.  I have used K&N oiled products (drop ins) for 20 years with no issues.  I just find that cleaning them and properly oiling them is a messy job.  I like the non oiled in the Airaid for that reason only.  BUT, the K&N only take about 15 minutes to clean and oil and only has to be cleaned once a year (or less), so take my whining with a grain of salt. LOL   

And yes, if you are light on the throttle, like if passengers are in the car, it sounds pretty much normal.  On the gas hard though, it sounds like a mean air sucking machine and the BOV noise when you let off is music to my ears.  It's just fun.   

Here is one on TSS's  2010 MKS

[FATHERFORD]

I find it so hard to believe there isn't a power difference when adding any CAI unless the restriction is in the tubes not the filter area itself. The F-150 systems seem to pick up really good power.

I saw that fastlane has a complete system that claims 20hp
http://www.fastlaneturbo.com/ecoboostcoldairpipelinesystem.aspx

[BiGMaC]

I find it so hard to believe there isn't a power difference when adding any CAI unless the restriction is in the tubes not the filter area itself. The F-150 systems seem to pick up really good power.

I saw that fastlane has a complete system that claims 20hp
http://www.fastlaneturbo.com/ecoboostcoldairpipelinesystem.aspx

The "saxophone" after the air box and the intake in front of it are both restrictive.   K&N, AirAid, and Hennessey all have dynes claiming 9-25WHP improvements.  We have actually seen dyne drops with some in the SHO and Flex.

A new dual intake CAI option is being developed by 4DR and the crew at Black Market Racing using my car.... There will be pre and post dynos.

[SHOdded]

Claimed power not being reached perhaps due to IAT rise inside the tubing (as discussed many times previously).

[BiGMaC]

Heat saturation of the tubing is definitely a factor for sure.  Rolling under hood temps are often close to ambient when measured ... Trick seems to be getting the air from outside the engine compartment and minimizing heat saturation of components.

[Needmoreboost]

Most aftermarket intakes switch to metal tubing and parts.  These may work great on a dyno with the hood up (cool car) and fans blowing, but not so much in the real world environments.  Once they are heated up the benefits fade.  From what I've seen owning and tuning forced induction vehicles is reducing restriction is just as helpful as moving more cold air in.  Plastics insulate from heat so much better.  Something to ponder on...

[FATHERFORD]

I've had multiple boosted cars and have never ran into an intake not improving. With that said, there are lots of smart engineers that make these cars very efficient now days.

[68_GT]

Nice BiGMac I can't wait to see the results.

[68_GT]

I ran with no sotck intake box with the intake pipe just open non filter around the block. Didn't sound much different with no CAI versus the stocker on with a K&N Panel so how can a K&N be any louder than no CAI on ?! I might do it for sound but I couldn't tell much difference in sound with no CAI on......

[BiGMaC]

Most aftermarket intakes switch to metal tubing and parts.  These may work great on a dyno with the hood up (cool car) and fans blowing, but not so much in the real world environments.  Once they are heated up the benefits fade.  From what I've seen owning and tuning forced induction vehicles is reducing restriction is just as helpful as moving more cold air in.  Plastics insulate from heat so much better.  Something to ponder on...

Agree completely... a couple of things to note:
The comments on heat soak are right on! ... regardless of materials, don't you raise your hood for cooling between races?  Yep, eventually anything is heat soaked.
Fabbing in plastic (prototypes/one-ofs) is VERY expensive ... maybe as much as 100x metal... so most don't do it.
Removing restriction is good... UNTIL... the piping is so large the air movement slows down and/or forms eddies.  The latter slows flow at best and the former allows more heat transfer to the air regardless of temperature.... to the intake air.  hotter/less dense intake air = less power and vice versa as you know..... So the factors of removing restriction while still maintaing laminar flow are balanced against air volume movement per unit time.  The two major factors are inseparably linked for sure... I'm focusing now on speed of air movement.  i can't stop heat soak, but I can limit heat transfer.