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H&R spring and camber bolts

Started by pejohnson, November 19, 2014, 08:29:28 PM

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pejohnson

I will be installing H&R springs over the winter since my car is parked until the spring.  I have read that some people need camber bolts and some do not.  I was just curious if my 13' would need them or not.  Also I was thinking of getting some H&R wheel offsets.  Anyone have any recommendations?  Also do I need to get lug bolt extensions?  Thanks for the feedback in advance.
13 Platinum White, PP, 402A, Moonroof, Multi-contour seats, and Navigation.  MODS - LMS 93 octane 3bar tune, 160 LMS thermostat, Airaid CAI, 15% tint, interior LED upgrade, LED puddle lights, Nurburgring 20" Gloss Black Powercoated Rims, H&R springs, Corsa catback exhaust, LMS catted downpipes

Best time 1/4 mile 12.588 sec @ 109.44 mph

MEANSHO

Quote from: pejohnson on November 19, 2014, 08:29:28 PM
I will be installing H&R springs over the winter since my car is parked until the spring.  I have read that some people need camber bolts and some do not.  I was just curious if my 13' would need them or not.  Also I was thinking of getting some H&R wheel offsets.  Anyone have any recommendations?  Also do I need to get lug bolt extensions?  Thanks for the feedback in advance.

I called h&r this week and they told me they do not make h&r wheel spacers for our car.  I to wanted to run wheel spacers.

crash712us

There is no guarantee that you will or won't need cam bolts. I didn't need them, and think most guys didn't need them either.


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pejohnson

It sounds like it could be a function of how knowledgeable the alignment person is working on your car.

Quote from: crash712us on November 20, 2014, 05:58:59 AM
There is no guarantee that you will or won't need cam bolts. I didn't need them, and think most guys didn't need them either.


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13 Platinum White, PP, 402A, Moonroof, Multi-contour seats, and Navigation.  MODS - LMS 93 octane 3bar tune, 160 LMS thermostat, Airaid CAI, 15% tint, interior LED upgrade, LED puddle lights, Nurburgring 20" Gloss Black Powercoated Rims, H&R springs, Corsa catback exhaust, LMS catted downpipes

Best time 1/4 mile 12.588 sec @ 109.44 mph

pejohnson

Interesting, I'm pretty sure there are guys on here that have H&R wheel spacers.

Quote from: MEANSHO on November 19, 2014, 08:55:41 PM
Quote from: pejohnson on November 19, 2014, 08:29:28 PM
I will be installing H&R springs over the winter since my car is parked until the spring.  I have read that some people need camber bolts and some do not.  I was just curious if my 13' would need them or not.  Also I was thinking of getting some H&R wheel offsets.  Anyone have any recommendations?  Also do I need to get lug bolt extensions?  Thanks for the feedback in advance.

I called h&r this week and they told me they do not make h&r wheel spacers for our car.  I to wanted to run wheel spacers.
13 Platinum White, PP, 402A, Moonroof, Multi-contour seats, and Navigation.  MODS - LMS 93 octane 3bar tune, 160 LMS thermostat, Airaid CAI, 15% tint, interior LED upgrade, LED puddle lights, Nurburgring 20" Gloss Black Powercoated Rims, H&R springs, Corsa catback exhaust, LMS catted downpipes

Best time 1/4 mile 12.588 sec @ 109.44 mph

crash712us

I am only aware of one person that has them. And just replacement my original tires with 48k no uneven wear. My alignment guy knew exactly what he was doing, he did express it was a pain in the ass however.


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MEANSHO

Quote from: pejohnson on November 20, 2014, 08:17:16 AM
Interesting, I'm pretty sure there are guys on here that have H&R wheel spacers.

Quote from: MEANSHO on November 19, 2014, 08:55:41 PM
Quote from: pejohnson on November 19, 2014, 08:29:28 PM
I will be installing H&R springs over the winter since my car is parked until the spring.  I have read that some people need camber bolts and some do not.  I was just curious if my 13' would need them or not.  Also I was thinking of getting some H&R wheel offsets.  Anyone have any recommendations?  Also do I need to get lug bolt extensions?  Thanks for the feedback in advance.

I called h&r this week and they told me they do not make h&r wheel spacers for our car.  I to wanted to run wheel spacers.

Yeah I could have sworn I read about someone having them but when I called they stated they do not making any for the 2010+ SHO.

Frozen Taurus

If you need wheel spacers go here http://www.motorsport-tech.com/ I had 1cm spacers made and shipped within a week ....the only issue I had was they didn't have the correct hub centric size on file.
2011 Tuxedo Black SHO non PP, K&N drop in, TCE Big Brake Kit, Megan Racing Coilovers
My other car is a 447 awhp Talon

MEANSHO

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Quote from: Frozen Taurus on November 20, 2014, 09:22:21 AM
If you need wheel spacers go here http://www.motorsport-tech.com/ I had 1cm spacers made and shipped within a week ....the only issue I had was they didn't have the correct hub centric size on file.

Are you running extended lugs? Id like to run 30mm spacers in the rear and 20mm up front.

Never mind I found the spacers posted below on that website I think ill order a set of 25mm for the rear and maybe 15-20mm for the front.

http://www.motorsport-tech.com/4DCGI/switchmodel

Frozen Taurus

No I did not get the extended lugs as they didn't offer them ... My lugs seem to hold fine though, I have checked them numerous times after install
2011 Tuxedo Black SHO non PP, K&N drop in, TCE Big Brake Kit, Megan Racing Coilovers
My other car is a 447 awhp Talon

shotime99

my '14 PP needed 3 out of 4 corners to have the camber bolts installed.. the rear wheels were way out of spec and starting to wear the inner rear tires after only 1500 km.. not a hard job to install them but pain in the buttocks to hold everything and get it into spec on the alignment machine.
2014 Taurus SHO w/PP and H & R spring kit

CroR1

Any pics of the location where the camber bolts go? Excuse the novice question, but is there a place for them from factory, or one has to make it for the those bolts?

pejohnson

Here is a link that shows the location of the camber bolts:

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,611.0.html


Quote from: cror1 on November 20, 2014, 05:41:54 PM
Any pics of the location where the camber bolts go? Excuse the novice question, but is there a place for them from factory, or one has to make it for the those bolts?
13 Platinum White, PP, 402A, Moonroof, Multi-contour seats, and Navigation.  MODS - LMS 93 octane 3bar tune, 160 LMS thermostat, Airaid CAI, 15% tint, interior LED upgrade, LED puddle lights, Nurburgring 20" Gloss Black Powercoated Rims, H&R springs, Corsa catback exhaust, LMS catted downpipes

Best time 1/4 mile 12.588 sec @ 109.44 mph

CroR1

Thank you for the link. I may have to buy these as I'm doing the install in spring. I see these bolts go for 24.99 on eBay, anyone knows a cheaper place? And just to confirm, do we need 4 bolts, 2 for the rear as well?

pejohnson

I'm doing the install over the next few weeks.  Personally I'm only going to buy one pair and install on the rear.  That seems to be the most likely area getting alignment back into specs.  Just my two cents.


Quote from: cror1 on November 21, 2014, 10:03:35 AM
Thank you for the link. I may have to buy these as I'm doing the install in spring. I see these bolts go for 24.99 on eBay, anyone knows a cheaper place? And just to confirm, do we need 4 bolts, 2 for the rear as well?
13 Platinum White, PP, 402A, Moonroof, Multi-contour seats, and Navigation.  MODS - LMS 93 octane 3bar tune, 160 LMS thermostat, Airaid CAI, 15% tint, interior LED upgrade, LED puddle lights, Nurburgring 20" Gloss Black Powercoated Rims, H&R springs, Corsa catback exhaust, LMS catted downpipes

Best time 1/4 mile 12.588 sec @ 109.44 mph