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Thinking of switching to Unleashed...got ?'s

Started by FracaSHO, November 03, 2014, 12:08:12 PM

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FracaSHO

I have a myCal from LMS. Let me be very clear that I am happy with LMS. However, I have noticed transmission issues with the stage 4+ tune, which went away after returning to stock. And I did speak with LMS about it and they asked if I wanted them to adjust the tune. But adjusting tunes based on phone conversations/emails is not, IMO, the best way to go about tuning your vehicle. Wether I'm right or wrong, I believe that a dyno tune is the only way to go for reliability. And instead of making the trip to LMS (600 miles r/t for me) possibly multiple times to get my SPECIFIC application dialed in correctly, I'm wondering if going with Unleashed and data logging might be the best route for me. My ?'s are: how exactly does data logging work and how do I go about doing it?  Will I need a windows based computer to send/receive tune files? Again, not knocking LMS in any way. I just don't think my car will ever be as good as it potentially could be without multiple dyno runs or data logging.  Thanks.
Brad
2010 Tuxedo Black SHO w/ PP

SHOnUup

Think you actually need a laptop to take full advantage of datalogging.

Good luck to ya. Many pros of it here to tell you the specifics.

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

SHOdded

What kind of trans issues did you have with the LMS tune?  Looking to see if the trans needs service or for some reason is at its' limit while stock.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

MDesign Performance

They're both great companies, though that's the only reason I went with unleashed, the data-logging for protection.

(And the easy meth add on ;D )

2011 MKS EcoBoost: MDesign Carbon Cold Air Intake; SP-534 Plugs; Power Stop C/S Rotors

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FracaSHO


Quote from: SHOdded on November 03, 2014, 01:01:37 PM
What kind of trans issues did you have with the LMS tune?  Looking to see if the trans needs service or for some reason is at its' limit while stock.

Slipping out of gear, and rough shutter when up shifting at about 90 to 100 mph. And slightly rough 1-2 and 2-3 shift. But trans is fine now that I'm back to stock. Been a week now under same conditions and no issues. I'm not saying there was something wrong with LMS, I'm just saying the tune needs tweaking, and doing it over the phone I don't feel is the best way to go about it.
Brad
2010 Tuxedo Black SHO w/ PP

FracaSHO


Quote from: Spartn27 on November 03, 2014, 01:02:13 PM
They're both great companies, though that's the only reason I went with unleashed, the data-logging for protection.

(And the easy meth add on ;D )

My only gripe with LMS is they won't work with any other meth kit other than the one they sell. I get it though and it's not necessarily a deal breaker, but I like my options.
Brad
2010 Tuxedo Black SHO w/ PP

SHOnUup

Did these symptoms just arise, say early to mid October?

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

wasinger3000

You will need a laptop with SCT Livelink , SCT device updater, and your SCT x4. You plug the x4 into the car, then usb from the x4 to the laptop.

Once on the laptop you can either pm, email, call, or text me and I'll walk you through it. 

Or

Call SCT.  They are open till 10pm on weekdays. You can allow them to install all the software and set up everything for you via a remote access system.

Hope this helps.
13' SHO, Non-PP, Tuned by Torrie, Meth injection, 3 bar, 170* stat, custom axle back exhaust, Prosport Boost gauge.
15' F150 Lariat Sport, all the options, 3.5L Eco. (fiancée ride.)
13' GTCS, will be missed.

FracaSHO


Quote from: SHOnUup on November 03, 2014, 03:03:35 PM
Did these symptoms just arise, say early to mid October?

Rich

They've been around on and off for the last 6 months or so, including some wheel hop issues in the very beginning. It's not a really big issue, nor is it necessarily 'something's broke.'  The tune just needs tweaking I'm sure.
Brad
2010 Tuxedo Black SHO w/ PP

brandont

Quote from: FracaSHO on November 03, 2014, 01:19:12 PM

Quote from: SHOdded on November 03, 2014, 01:01:37 PM
What kind of trans issues did you have with the LMS tune?  Looking to see if the trans needs service or for some reason is at its' limit while stock.

Slipping out of gear, and rough shutter when up shifting at about 90 to 100 mph. And slightly rough 1-2 and 2-3 shift. But trans is fine now that I'm back to stock. Been a week now under same conditions and no issues. I'm not saying there was something wrong with LMS, I'm just saying the tune needs tweaking, and doing it over the phone I don't feel is the best way to go about it.
I went to unleashed aswell. I fins everyone nice in a while I get that hard shutter going from 2nd to 3rd gear. I would really like to know what it is lol

SHOdded

#10
Number of things to check:

1.  PCM is latest calibration from Ford
2.  Oil in plug wells / plug & wire condition
3.  Halfshaft check (2013+)
4.  Transmission (and PTU) fluid condition
5.  TSS/OSS sensors
6.  Cam Phaser(s)

Could run Torque Pro w datalogging on every run till the error condition occurs, and post that.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!