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E85 is AWESOME!

Started by EcoPowerParts, June 11, 2013, 01:18:17 AM

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FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on March 16, 2014, 03:24:28 PM
For the purposes of this thread, please refer to pg 62 and 158.

There is a ton of other info as well.

Enjoy!

http://www.motorcraftservice.com/vdirs/diagnostics/pdf/obdsm1202.pdf

FoMoCoSHO

Just for fun, I bumped my blend up to 30%.

Hopefully I can get to the track this week and see if it has any positive effect on my 1/4 times.

Lanson

Can I just say that E85 is not awesome in the long-term, because the fuel is made up of our food?  Ethanol fuel comes from corn.  Have you priced corn lately?!?  Just sayin'.
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FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: Lanson on May 26, 2014, 02:24:12 PM
Can I just say that E85 is not awesome in the long-term, because the fuel is made up of our food?  Ethanol fuel comes from corn.  Have you priced corn lately?!?  Just sayin'.
I have posted my views about this. I am sympathetic to this position but the fact of the matter is all food is going up, E-85 makes a great scapegoat for bad economic policies across the board.

Hopefully E-85 will evolve to the point we can manufacture cellulosic ethanol and be able to use all forms of plant waste to make it.

A mid gap solution would be to use hemp, but that's a whole other discussion.

SHOdded

I would very much like the dream envisioned in the Back To The Future movies to come true.  Although many, many successful experiments have been conducted with biodiesel type fuels, they have a long way to go to see the light of day in significant production.

Besides, farmers will grow what they will get paid for.  One crop replaces another as the economy dictates.  I am just glad we have not gotten to the Soylent Green reality for fuel yet.  Compared to that, ethanol from corn is easily acceptable.
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92BlackGT

I decided to throw 3 gallons of E85 in with E0 91. That put me to E13 and 93 octane. The car feels stronger with less hesitation vs 91 octane. I'm definitely going to get an Unleashed tune now and tune for E30 since I have E85 all around me. E30 will get me 96 octane and will be much cheaper than the 1 gas station that sells 93 octane!
Thanks for this thread!
'14 Taurus SHO - non PP, Unleashed E20 tune, 3 bar - 12.91 @ 106.5 mph
'93 Mustang Coupe - AFR 165's, FTI cam, ported Cobra intake - 13.05 @ 105.6 mph

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: 92BlackGT on July 13, 2015, 07:08:08 AM
I decided to throw 3 gallons of E85 in with E0 91. That put me to E13 and 93 octane. The car feels stronger with less hesitation vs 91 octane. I'm definitely going to get an Unleashed tune now and tune for E30 since I have E85 all around me. E30 will get me 96 octane and will be much cheaper than the 1 gas station that sells 93 octane!
Thanks for this thread!
Actually your effective octane is much higher.....

Direct injection is like steroids for E85.

92BlackGT

'14 Taurus SHO - non PP, Unleashed E20 tune, 3 bar - 12.91 @ 106.5 mph
'93 Mustang Coupe - AFR 165's, FTI cam, ported Cobra intake - 13.05 @ 105.6 mph

WickedSHO

If I threw in a gallon or two of E-85 into my 2014 with out being tuned for it. Is there any benefit?
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ecoboostsho

Quote from: WickedSHO on July 14, 2015, 11:43:53 AM
If I threw in a gallon or two of E-85 into my 2014 with out being tuned for it. Is there any benefit?
Yes definitely...I am doing that with my untuned 2013 right now and it definitely helps with acceleration, overall responsiveness.  The knock gauge indicates the car is a lot more willing to add timing to back it up with actual data.  FoMoCoSHO posted earlier he picked up like .4 in the quarter just blending E-85...
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SHOnUup

Just remember to add a fuel additive that lubricates the system every few fillups.

Rich

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Quote from: SHOnUup on July 14, 2015, 12:27:59 PM
Just remember to add a fuel additive that lubricates the system every few fillups.

Rich

What do you recommend?
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FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: SHOnUup on July 14, 2015, 12:27:59 PM
Just remember to add a fuel additive that lubricates the system every few fillups.

Rich
E85 inherently has lubricants built in and combined with a top tier fuel you will be fine. If you don't run top tier fuel it is definitely something to consider though as no E85 is top tier so I consider their add packs suspect

I'm curious about archoil as it is a friction modifier which may or may not have positive effects for us corn addicts....





WickedSHO

One last question.....I usually fill up once I get to about half tank, just a habit I have formed.

Any caution I should use if I add 1 gallon at half everytime I fill up?
2014 SHO Ignot Silver. MDesign CF Intake, 3 BAR MAP, 160 T-Stat, LMS 93 OCT V8 tune.