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HELP!! LMS 4X tune and car isnt running right (FIXED)

Started by BDayks, August 07, 2014, 12:52:20 AM

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BDayks

So tonight I changed my spark plugs gapped at 0.30 (SP-534, CYFS-12Y-T3) and added 3BAR (CX-11-31-AA5Z-9F479-B) and uploaded my new tune from LMS (stage 4X) started the car for the first time after all things were done and car ran like sht proceeded to get a wrench on screen and flashing engine light. Checked DTC's and had U0300. There is no throttle response while car is in park and the car just in general is running extremely rough. took it for a drive and it would not accelerate just stay in first gear and wont change (almost like a limp mode )

Here are some of the troubleshooting I did 
- replaced 3BAR with stock 2BAR and returned to stock settings (no luck)
- tried pulling the sparkplug connecters to pinpoint (no luck)
- disconnected battery for 15min and restart and nothing
If anyone has any idea or input I would love to hear it.

I'm going to bring my car to the dealers tmo hopefully they can sort it out if nothing else just don't want to spend the money on something stupid   

BiGMaC

Pull and check the plugs too, and check that all the charge pipe connections as well as electrical connections on top of the engine are solid before paying the dealer.... Maybe call LMS regarding getting new tunes in case they are corrupt, etc.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

PokerMunkee

#2
This post sounds exactly like yours:

http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/115-5th-6th-gen-engine-drivetrain/187737-codes-no-power-after-tune-written.html

You need to call LMS first thing in the morning before bringing to the dealer. 
2013 SHO PP - Ignot Silver/Charcoal
Unleashed 91 tune w/ 3BAR, Corsa exhaust, LEDs everywhere
2011 F-250 6.2 CCSB FX4

BDayks

Quote from: PokerMunkee on August 07, 2014, 01:06:42 AM
This post sounds exactly like yours:

http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/115-5th-6th-gen-engine-drivetrain/187737-codes-no-power-after-tune-written.html

You need to call LMS first thing in the morning before bringing to the dealer. 

This is exactly like what is happing I will call LMS in the morning I really hope I don't have to get a new PCM

SHOdded

What year is your SHO again?  Thinking old battery also a possibility if a 2011 or 2010, if original.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

BDayks

Quote from: SHOdded on August 07, 2014, 07:06:14 AM
What year is your SHO again?  Thinking old battery also a possibility if a 2011 or 2010, if original.
it's 2010 but the battery is new from last year

Brucelinc

Are you sure you had the ignition in the "on" position (hold button until the gauges sweep) when instructed to do so and that all instructions were followed 100%?  Did you get a message that the tune load was successful?  Not trying to insult your work at all - just trying to think of simple things that might cause this.  If you have the 3 bar installed but not a tune that is 3 bar compatible, you will have problems.

SHOdded

Hmm.  Could very well be a bad tune file, like BiGMaC said, or a corrupted tuning device.  There have been hardware failures on the tuners from time to time.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

BDayks

Quote from: Brucelinc on August 07, 2014, 09:02:28 AM
Are you sure you had the ignition in the "on" position (hold button until the gauges sweep) when instructed to do so and that all instructions were followed 100%?  Did you get a message that the tune load was successful?  Not trying to insult your work at all - just trying to think of simple things that might cause this.  If you have the 3 bar installed but not a tune that is 3 bar compatible, you will have problems.

no insult at all, always good to have a second opinion or check list. I followed all instructions and had a successful tune (Stage 4X 3BAR).


Quote from: BiGMaC on August 07, 2014, 01:05:18 AM
Pull and check the plugs too, and check that all the charge pipe connections as well as electrical connections on top of the engine are solid before paying the dealer.... Maybe call LMS regarding getting new tunes in case they are corrupt, etc.
Quote from: SHOdded on August 07, 2014, 09:06:14 AM
Hmm.  Could very well be a bad tune file, like BiGMaC said, or a corrupted tuning device.  There have been hardware failures on the tuners from time to time.

I'm really hoping its just a bad file and can be fixed via new tune, The tuner itself had successfully programed my car with stage 4+ before I did the upgrades so I think its just the tune.

TSS

If I read correctly, you changed the plugs, and this was the first start after that (in conjunction with the 3 bar etc).   I might try putting your old plugs back in one by one and starting each time( with 2 bar and stock tune) and see what happens.
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SHOnUup

Has the car been back to dealer for work since the initial tune? Think I read here that the strategy code could be changed then?
2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
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BDayks

#11
So Anthony from LMS called me this morning and he told me that basically that there was an issue with the tune and strategy code my car was the .01% of the 99.9% that this would happen to he said it was an old strategic code anyway he resent my old tunes and the car is working like it should everything is back to normal! now they have to redo the stage 4X for my car.

Anyway I'm happy now that everything is okay ! And HUGE Thank you to everyone and their help. You guys probably saved me some $$ and stress.
thanks

Quote from: SHOnUup on August 07, 2014, 09:49:31 AM
Has the car been back to dealer for work since the initial tune? Think I read here that the strategy code could be changed then?

also its funny you mentioned that because I did have the car in for recall work (license plate lamp). Ill have to let Anthony know.

Brucelinc

Glad to hear all is well and it is great that Anthony stepped up to help.  If this had happened to me, I would have been freaking out until a solution was found. 

crash712us

I had a feeling that it was strategy code issue. As stated there is very small number of cars that have this tuning issue. Luckily LMS has encountered and was quickly able to identify the problem.

2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!