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Brake Question - Pulsating @ 41k Miles

Started by NAiLs, July 31, 2014, 03:04:29 PM

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NAiLs

Hey guys (and gals)!

Over the last several weeks I've noticed that my brakes pulsate quite bad.  I've got nearly 41k on the (2011) SHO, so I'm uncertain if it's worthy of turning the rotors or just getting something new.

I have to be honest, I haven't had a chance to see how much life is left on my pads, and I'm honestly not sure what to expect out of factory brakes.  I know my G8 is near end of life on the pads at 26k, so I'm clueless here.
 
So the question is, is it worth turning the rotors, or should I invest into something new?  I know a warped rotor is always warped (at least I hope it's the rotor and not the caliper) and the pulsating can come back, which brings me to the "Is it worth turning 41k rotors?" question.  I honestly am somewhat hard on my brakes from time-to-time, so I would need something that's actually quality.  I drive 20 miles on 65MPH roads, and with the idiots on the road sudden stops on the freeway are common.  I <3 rollercoaster rides on my way home!!  LOL!  Not to mention, some off ramps are rather short.

If you recommend new brakes, I'd rather not invest into something super expensive, but quite honestly, brakes and tires are an item that I will NOT cheap out on... it's for my safety (and others around me) for Pete's sake!

Thanks!!

-Brian

elund126

I replaced rotors and pads on mine at around 50K. Anything that is not stock is a huge upgrade. I would just buy new, and not try turning the old ones.

There are a ton of discussions on here about brakes. Probably about 100 different combinations!!
2010 Tuxedo Black SHO
Windows Tinted, SP-534, 3-bar, Unleashed Tuning

SHOnUup

I heard power stop were ok, cheap, look ok, and perform ok...TSE big brake kit outrageous at almost 5k
2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

NAiLs

Quote from: elund126 on July 31, 2014, 04:35:08 PM
I replaced rotors and pads on mine at around 50K. Anything that is not stock is a huge upgrade. I would just buy new, and not try turning the old ones.

There are a ton of discussions on here about brakes. Probably about 100 different combinations!!

I kind of figured it wouldn't be worth it, but I had to get opinions before making that decision.  I'll definitely be reading the threads more closely soon.  It drives me nuts when they pulsate at high speeds, but they're fine under like 45mph.  (Fine as in I hardly even feel any pulsing).


Quote from: SHOnUup on July 31, 2014, 04:39:06 PM
I heard power stop were ok, cheap, look ok, and perform ok...TSE big brake kit outrageous at almost 5k

Oh I definitely wouldn't want to drop $5k on brakes.  I'd rather invest that sort of cash into a maggie for the G8.  LOL!

elund126

I bought Hawk pads. They were great for about a year, then i got some squeaking. I took them off to clean and found that the pad was actually about 1mm bigger than the rotor. There is a lip on the top of the pad now, so they are ruined and I have to buy some new pads.
2010 Tuxedo Black SHO
Windows Tinted, SP-534, 3-bar, Unleashed Tuning

BiGMaC

EBC is another brand many are happy with...

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

donky4444

EBC red stuff pads and EBC slotted rotors here. Love the setup.
2017 Lincoln MKZ 3.0tt with LMS tune

2014 SHO 402a PP 20" flower wheels. LME  tune, 3 bar MAP, LED Puddle Lights and LED DRL's from Drive Bright, tinted head and tail lights, gloss black vinyl wrapped all chrome with custom chrome SHO emblems front and rear. SOLD

2015 X Sport LME 3 bar tune, LED Puddle and plate lights

ZSHO

Neglected proper wheel balance can add additional issues with the brakes pulsating and wear out your front end down the road.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

IHeartGroceries

Pulsation is the result of improperly and/or over torqued wheel lugs.

I say just replace the rotors, make certain to torque to spec, seat the new pads and be done with it. Never been a big fan of turning rotors.

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2013 SHO PP

NAiLs

Ordered all of my EBC parts last week, finally!  I couldn't fathom spending $600 on brakes immediately, but I had to bite the bullet before it gets too cold outside.  I grabbed the EBC sport slotted rotors and redstuff pads.

Quick question regarding the caliper.  In terms of pushing in the piston, do these just compress right back in, or are they the kind that need to twist to compress?  I've got a C-Clamp if it's just the ones that push in, but I'll have to rent the tool if it's the other type.  Or is it a mix of both?

Regarding painting, I'll probably look at doing that next spring/summer while it is warm enough outside.  I have to find a color that matches Kona Blue well.  Perhaps black will be it?

peppelepugh

If i'm not mistaken, the back set needs the twist/compress where as the front is just compress w/ c-clamp
2011 Kona Blue SHO non-PP: MDesign Carbon Fiber CAI, All interior lights LEDs, LED Puddles, and LED Reverse.

EBC Stage 4 Brake kit, 170* T-stat, 3-Bar MAP, NGK Plugs, PPE Catless-DPs and Tune by Torrie!

glock-coma

Peppelepugh you are correct. Only the rears need to be turned as you compress the piston
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

NAiLs

Thanks guys!  I had to be sure that I had the right set of tools before I start ripping the brakes apart.  :)

ZSHO

#13
http://www.amazon.com/Dupli-Color-BCP402-Racing-Black-Caliper/dp/B000B6DG4U/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1413241540&sr=1-2&keywords=caliper+paint+black ,you mentioned caliper paint,used this on a couple cars of mine and was really happy of the outcome,very durable and dries really fast and looks great in satin black.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

SHOdded

It better be good, using BAER brakes as a model ;)  Pretty decent range available too.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!