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SP 534 not gapped- what are the cons?

Started by 2010SHOtime, June 22, 2014, 01:59:01 PM

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2010SHOtime

Just wanted to see what are the cons to not gapping the spark plugs? I did mine but not really knowing why but just because everyone says to do it. So I'm just curious what the cons are if they're not gapped at .30

Thanks!
2010 SHO 402A non PP. Best time 13.113 @ 105.81
Tuned by Torrie @ Unleashed Tuning, sp534 plugs, 170 t-stat, 3 bar sensor.
2013 explorer (wifeys car)
2002 Orange Camaro SS-sold

ecoboostsho

You can Google it for a ton of info but in brief improper gap can cause spark plug fouling, poor MPG, misfires, and accelerated plug wear.  When you increase the boost you also need to decrease gap to prevent "spark blowout"...
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

2010SHOtime

2010 SHO 402A non PP. Best time 13.113 @ 105.81
Tuned by Torrie @ Unleashed Tuning, sp534 plugs, 170 t-stat, 3 bar sensor.
2013 explorer (wifeys car)
2002 Orange Camaro SS-sold

SHOdded

Main thing to remember when re-gapping is not to touch the easily damaged center electrode.  Not enough mass there to begin with.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

markssho

I just put in a set of these this weekend. I checked the gap first and all 6 were gapped correctly at .03.
However, the original platinum plugs ranged from .027 to .038. With 44k miles on them.

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2010 Taurus SHO, Cinnamon, 402B, ACC

SHOdded

0.027?  Were they testing your car with 20 psi at the factory???  Shouldn't have to check plug gap when you buy the car new, but might be worth it especially if any symptoms of uneven performance are noted.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

BiGMaC

I love how everyone mentions "misfires" without noting that detonation is also prevented with the .03 gap on the SP534 or equivalent.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

ecoboostsho

Quote from: BiGMaC on June 23, 2014, 01:43:14 AM
I love how everyone mentions "misfires" without noting that detonation is also prevented with the .03 gap on the SP534 or equivalent.

Well you just did so we are all good now! :)

From NGK's site...

A spark plug part number might fit hundreds of engines and, although the factory will typically set the gap to a pre-selected setting, this may not be the right gap for your particular engine. Insufficient spark plug gap can cause pre-ignition, detonation and even engine damage. Too much gap can result in a higher rate of misfires, loss of power, plug fouling and poor fuel economy. It is always best to check the gap against the manufacturer's specifications.

Another consideration that should be taken into account is the extent of any modifications that you may have made to the engine. As an example, when you raise compression or add forced induction (a turbo system, nitrous or supercharger kit) you must reduce the gap (about .004" for every 50 hp you add). However, when you add a high power ignition system (such as those offered by MSD, Crane, Nology) you can open the gap from .002-.005".
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

2010SHOtime

Quote from: ecoboostsho on June 23, 2014, 08:26:22 AM
Quote from: BiGMaC on June 23, 2014, 01:43:14 AM
I love how everyone mentions "misfires" without noting that detonation is also prevented with the .03 gap on the SP534 or equivalent.

Well you just did so we are all good now! :)

From NGK's site...

A spark plug part number might fit hundreds of engines and, although the factory will typically set the gap to a pre-selected setting, this may not be the right gap for your particular engine. Insufficient spark plug gap can cause pre-ignition, detonation and even engine damage. Too much gap can result in a higher rate of misfires, loss of power, plug fouling and poor fuel economy. It is always best to check the gap against the manufacturer's specifications.

Another consideration that should be taken into account is the extent of any modifications that you may have made to the engine. As an example, when you raise compression or add forced induction (a turbo system, nitrous or supercharger kit) you must reduce the gap (about .004" for every 50 hp you add). However, when you add a high power ignition system (such as those offered by MSD, Crane, Nology) you can open the gap from .002-.005".

Great info, thanks!
2010 SHO 402A non PP. Best time 13.113 @ 105.81
Tuned by Torrie @ Unleashed Tuning, sp534 plugs, 170 t-stat, 3 bar sensor.
2013 explorer (wifeys car)
2002 Orange Camaro SS-sold

shoman04

Quote from: ecoboostsho on June 23, 2014, 08:26:22 AM
Quote from: BiGMaC on June 23, 2014, 01:43:14 AM
I love how everyone mentions "misfires" without noting that detonation is also prevented with the .03 gap on the SP534 or equivalent.

Well you just did so we are all good now! :)

From NGK's site...

A spark plug part number might fit hundreds of engines and, although the factory will typically set the gap to a pre-selected setting, this may not be the right gap for your particular engine. Insufficient spark plug gap can cause pre-ignition, detonation and even engine damage. Too much gap can result in a higher rate of misfires, loss of power, plug fouling and poor fuel economy. It is always best to check the gap against the manufacturer's specifications.

Another consideration that should be taken into account is the extent of any modifications that you may have made to the engine. As an example, when you raise compression or add forced induction (a turbo system, nitrous or supercharger kit) you must reduce the gap (about .004" for every 50 hp you add). However, when you add a high power ignition system (such as those offered by MSD, Crane, Nology) you can open the gap from .002-.005".

So IS .030 THE BEST GAP for car with(these MOD) METH,Down-pipe,X-pipe,2.5 exshaust /DynMax mufflers, and LMS METH TUNE?
2011 KONA BLU SHO,Livernois Tune,AIRAID CAI,DYNOMAX MUFFLEs,Newest member of the 12sec CLUB 12.669sec @ 107mph    2011 Ford Taurus SHO: 12.669 @ 105.050 MPH NEW FOR 2013LMS down-pipe,Magnaflow X-pipe,and Custom 2.5"exhaust pipe!! Meth and stage 5 next to be install!!!!!! METH DYNO TUNE today 405AWHP!!!WOW LMS track day 12.4209sec   :mike1:

steve142857


[/quote]So IS .030 THE BEST GAP for car with(these MOD) METH,Down-pipe,X-pipe,2.5 exshaust /DynMax mufflers, and LMS METH TUNE?
[/quote]
That's what mine are at following independant recommendations from my local speed shop and Livernois.
2010 blue wrapped SHO 12.09 at 117.9mph - SOLD
2013 SHO PP 12.08 at 113.83mph...
Alky control, LMS tuned, custom exhaust, LMS catted downpipes, H&R springs, Tstat170, 3bar map, Airaid

shoman04

Quote from: steve142857 on July 06, 2014, 07:22:54 PM

So IS .030 THE BEST GAP for car with(these MOD) METH,Down-pipe,X-pipe,2.5 exshaust /DynMax mufflers, and LMS METH TUNE?
[/quote]
That's what mine are at following independant recommendations from my local speed shop and Livernois.
[/quote]Thanks Steve, As always I learn from the "MASTER JEDI of SPEED"!!
2011 KONA BLU SHO,Livernois Tune,AIRAID CAI,DYNOMAX MUFFLEs,Newest member of the 12sec CLUB 12.669sec @ 107mph    2011 Ford Taurus SHO: 12.669 @ 105.050 MPH NEW FOR 2013LMS down-pipe,Magnaflow X-pipe,and Custom 2.5"exhaust pipe!! Meth and stage 5 next to be install!!!!!! METH DYNO TUNE today 405AWHP!!!WOW LMS track day 12.4209sec   :mike1:

Jtrain

You want to make sure they're gapped right so you don't get the shutter of death (Not really death, but you go "what was that?"... )

Ignition is one of those things that people post and worry about way too much. If you got a tune, and you know how to gap your own plugs- do it. Other wise- spend 90$ on pre-gapped and learn how to plug them in yourself.

And never think about ignition again (Unless you're pushing 500whp)
2004 G35: Built Motor 8.8:1, Single Disc Kevlar Clutch, 3" Dual Turbo Back, G18 Twin Turbos, 18PSI, 600 Wheel HP
2007 Jeep SRT8 13.4 @104 Sold for....
2014 Ford Explorer Sport: K&N, .030 NGK plugs, 170 Tstat, 3Bar sensor, Tuned with SCT Tuner