Quote from: vinnievis on June 19, 2014, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: PokerMunkee on June 19, 2014, 01:50:38 PM
I'm still a newb and probably wrong place to post this,,... I'm thinking of going with the LMS 3bar V8 tune first.
Then later I will add the PPE catted downpipes. Will LMS need to get me a new tune once I install the DPs? How much of a difference are the DPs going to make?
Is there any other mods worth adding to this setup? I don't want meth, just simple stuff. Don't want it to sound like a race car, been there done that.
It is strange because I have heard a lot of people talking about an updated tune with catted DP's. I was told directly from Livernois when asking for an updated 3 Bar tune and updated for the catted DP's that:
"The down pipes from PPE should not require any tune modifications from what I have seen. The cats on these will not cause a check engine light like some of the other versions."
I take that to mean that if you have PPE Catted DP's that you dont need to tune for them, but non-catted (and some brands of catted) require the O2 sensors to be tuned out.
I have yet to get my car to the shop to have the DP's put in, so I cant comment yet on the difference it makes...
The difference with DPs is decreased backpressure allowing the turbos to spool at 500-700 rpm less which really boosts the low end.
You do not NEED a tune adjustment for v8 to function correctly in the SHO with DPs, BUT..... There is a tune adjustment for both catted and non catted DPs to optimize the performance improvement the DPs offer.
I am running the DP adjustment in my v8 along with adjustments for other mods. I have discussed how it works with Dan at LMS on the phone.
The difference is the new LMS catted DPs have the large Magnaflow cats with CARB numbers, like the PPE DPs, and so will pass emissions and do not require the tune to turn off the last O2 sensor to prevent throwing a CEL. (Noncatted DPs will cause a CEL unless last O2 sensor is turned off)
BTW.... If you live in an emissions state, and don't want to return tune and exhaust to stock annually, I strongly recommend PPE (I have these) or LMS DPs. On stock tune, using my 2013 SHO, the non catted DPs added 17 WHP on the dyno..... My catted DPs added 12 WHP in back to back dynos (we were testing 3 sets of DPs). Both resulted in the earlier turbo spooling and increase in low end power described above.