Disappointing Power

[BiGMaC]

I have both.  '13 SHO and '14 X SPORT.

My show (with a tune), has ZERO torque steer.  Point it and it goes.

The X Sport (stock) will torque steer like a muther most times.  But usually when you go from low RPM's (below 2,000) up through the RPM's.  When the turbos spool up, is when you get it.  Any input to the steering wheel exaggerated it.

That's how the 2013 was when we test drove it. My new 2014 hardly any (T/S). It feels about like an 18 to 19 second ride.
What times are these stock?

Expect low 13's stock and mid to upper 12's tuned... add a few mods and tune tweaks you get low 12's... current only 2 SHO's have run below 12... they were both meth injected.

[Josephm]

14.2 quarter mile in a Explore Sport and around 13.6 tuned.

Maybe make a video of your acceleration so people can see if its normal?

[JimiJak]

That's how the 2013 was when we test drove it. My new 2014 hardly any (T/S). It feels about like an 18 to 19 second ride.
What times are these stock?
Bigmac- I see now what I can change or limit with my-key...thanks!

TQ steer: on my 14 XSport? Yes. I second blues that it's mostly from low RPM through the middle of the power band while the turbos are really kicking it.

Times: Stock, we should be pulling around a 14 second quarter mile for most people. If you know what you're doing with good track conditions you could probably manage down to the mid 13's...but that's about it without a tune.

MyKey: DO NOT activate a MyKey unless you plan on giving that key to your 16 year old that needs a babysitter. lol
Even if one did get activated though...that has nothing to do with acceleration...just sets MAX limits for volume, speed, etc.

different driving modes: on start up, it defaults to normal driving / traction modes, so that shouldn't be the problem either.
A little info on the different modes:
Sand - disables traction control. Gearing keeps RPM high and doesn't down shift into 6th...ever. This setting has the most aggressive throttle response and shifts.
both the Mud/Ruts and Snow/Grass settings are very similar. I have yet to find a difference between the two...either way these settings greatly decrease throttle response, and limit overall power. It's like what it would feel like to fill your engine with tar. Great if you're trying not to spin your wheels on a crazy slick surface...but not good for much outside of an ice rink.
But unless you crank it to snow mode every time you start it...this shouldn't be the problem either.

Unfortunately, that's about all I've got...I can kybosh all your theories...but I don't have any suggestions for what it could be.

Did you get your catch can installed? I would love to see your install details. That would be the first place I would look. Can we get a pic of your install?

[POPSTAGE2]

Thanks for the replies, it helps. If it's a 14 to 15 second 1/4 stock I know this one isn't.

BigMac- I can get pictures of the catch can install but I'm 99.9% sure it's installed correctly...anythings possible though.
Followed JimiJak's install except used 400 psi transmission hose that is compatible with oil and fuel. It's stiffer walled which will work better for the suction lines. That and I mounted it in the same location (underhood) but a tad lower and closer towards the radiator so the engine cover still fits.

I'll maybe move it to the wheelwell pending how much more crud JimiJak collects.

Again thanks for the replies...it's kinda telling me somethings up. It seems like after 2/3rds throttle it either loses boost or just accelerates the same amount.

[JimiJak]

Good to know. So if the can is installed correctly, and it's not a vacuum issue that's causing your problem; my next guess would be a turbo leak somewhere in the plastic charge pipes once the boost reaches a certain pressure. So let's say it's a leak that only happens at 10psi, you'll only get 10psi, and any additional boost will be lost even though you're WOT.

I'm assuming you're not throwing any CELs and you're not missing on any cylinders or anything, right?

You're stock, other than the catch can, right?

[JimiJak]

Better yet, as long as it's not the a bad OCC install:
If you're not hitting 0-60 times under 7 sec, there's def a problem and it needs to go back to the dealer...
Let them do all the hard work to figure it out.

[POPSTAGE2]

Good to know. So if the can is installed correctly, and it's not a vacuum issue that's causing your problem; my next guess would be a turbo leak somewhere in the plastic charge pipes once the boost reaches a certain pressure. So let's say it's a leak that only happens at 10psi, you'll only get 10psi, and any additional boost will be lost even though you're WOT.

I'm assuming you're not throwing any CELs and you're not missing on any cylinders or anything, right?

You're stock, other than the catch can, right?

Correct, no codes no miss and stock.
Plastic charge pipe would be like the intake pipes like the rear that I tapped into?

[JimiJak]

Negative.
You tapped into the intake pipes. Those go from the air cleaner to the turbo. From there, the turbo builds air pressure, and charges the "charge pipes" that then flow to the CAC (Charge Air Cooler aka intercooler) and from there, into your intake manifold.

Your eBOVs (electronic Blow Off Valves) are located on the charge pipes.

[POPSTAGE2]

Gotcha...thanks!

[steve142857]

Expect low 13's stock and mid to upper 12's tuned... add a few mods and tune tweaks you get low 12's... current only 2 SHO's have run below 12... they were both meth injected.
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Did I miss the second one to get into the 11's?
POPSTAGE2: Try a 0-60 and see if you can get close to 6-6.5 seconds.
Maybe, I don't know, but there could be wires touching (shaffing?) which limits the power. It was frequent on SHO in 2010-2012...
I would definitely bring it to the dealer to have that fixed before tuning it.
But once fixed, I would definitely tune it! lol

[REDSHOCGO]

Hi All-
I have about 500 miles on my wife's Sport now. Wanted to break it in like Stacy suggested to set the rings in. But diddn't want to get to happy with high rpm's untill the catch can install do to the the poor pcv, evacuation system. So up till about 300 miles I would load the engine down using the paddle shifters at between 1/2 and 3/4 throttle. (worked great) Power felt good.

Now with the catch can Installed I drove it pretty hard with full throttle blasts. Pretty disappointed with the full trottle power. It seems it has the same power output at 1/2 and 3/4 throttle as it does at full. There is no torque steer. Is it possible you may have created a boost leak with the can installation?

Before we bought the 2014, I was able to test drive a 2013 with 25K on the clock for a week...granted it was when it was cold and we had better air but that thing had scary torque steer and had a lot more full throttle power. when you nailed it at 55-60 mph the torque steer was incredible, and frankly was worried that it was to much for the wife...not with our 2014...it has just a hint and just doesn't feel like it has the power.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Guy

[BiGMaC]

IMHO... Time for a chat with your dealer service dept.   :-

[bpd1151]

Expect low 13's stock and mid to upper 12's tuned... add a few mods and tune tweaks you get low 12's... current only 2 SHO's have run below 12... they were both meth injected.

To date, there's only been ONE SHO that's broken into the 11's.

That was FirstSHO (Mike) with an 11.95.

[BiGMaC]

Expect low 13's stock and mid to upper 12's tuned... add a few mods and tune tweaks you get low 12's... current only 2 SHO's have run below 12... they were both meth injected.

To date, there's only been ONE SHO that's broken into the 11's.

That was FirstSHO (Mike) with an 11.95.

Gentlemen... I stand corrected and bow to your wisdom.   

Apologies to steve!

[Needmoreboost]

Expect low 13's stock and mid to upper 12's tuned... add a few mods and tune tweaks you get low 12's... current only 2 SHO's have run below 12... they were both meth injected.

To date, there's only been ONE SHO that's broken into the 11's.

That was FirstSHO (Mike) with an 11.95.

Gentlemen... I stand corrected and bow to your wisdom.   

Apologies to steve!

BigMac it's all good.  I'm a Big Mac too.