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Started by BMC10SEC50, April 02, 2014, 12:53:23 PM

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BMC10SEC50

My car:

2013 SHO-
Nov 2013 I went 12.86@108.00 with just a 93 tune and K&N air filter.

Last night(video posted under videos)I went 12.79@108.28 with a tune, CAI, off road pipe, plugs and thermostat. I think the tune is off a little and I did email LMS about it. Any thoughts??

Weather on both night was pretty much the same.
-2013 SHO PP with Unleashed 3 bar tune, CAI, plugs, thermostat, off road downpipes and Corsa exhaust. Best time to date is 12.26@112.47mph.
-1990 5.0 LX(original owner) 349 BOSS block, Twisted Wedge heads, Holley intake, Vortech Si trim. Made 636hp to the wheels with a street tune.

BiGMaC

I've talked extensively with Dan, Anthony, and Andy at LMS regarding my '13 SHO and mods/tuning.... There is an LMS tune mod for the DPs and the CAI... do you have these in your tune?  If not that might be that you have 20-30 HP untapped.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

IHeartGroceries

Even with a tuning solution, is the CAI recognized as offering much of a gain over OEM with a filter?

You can't expect much, if anything at all from the plugs and t-stat. No power increase. Potentially just running optimally (avoiding KR).

Not sure what you can expect with the exhaust mods, but your time increase may not be far off, especially factoring variables like track conditions and weather.

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2013 SHO PP

BMC10SEC50

Bigmac- I purchased everything from LMS and the tune was updated for the mods.
-2013 SHO PP with Unleashed 3 bar tune, CAI, plugs, thermostat, off road downpipes and Corsa exhaust. Best time to date is 12.26@112.47mph.
-1990 5.0 LX(original owner) 349 BOSS block, Twisted Wedge heads, Holley intake, Vortech Si trim. Made 636hp to the wheels with a street tune.

Needmoreboost

What's the offroad pipe?  Catless downpipes?  Or just a 3rd cat delete?
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BMC10SEC50

-2013 SHO PP with Unleashed 3 bar tune, CAI, plugs, thermostat, off road downpipes and Corsa exhaust. Best time to date is 12.26@112.47mph.
-1990 5.0 LX(original owner) 349 BOSS block, Twisted Wedge heads, Holley intake, Vortech Si trim. Made 636hp to the wheels with a street tune.

BMC10SEC50

Iheart- I'm a Fox body Mustang guy so maybe I was expecting to much. Back in the day if you put a CAI and off road pipe on a 5.0 you would gain 2-3 tenths so I guess that's what I was thinking.
-2013 SHO PP with Unleashed 3 bar tune, CAI, plugs, thermostat, off road downpipes and Corsa exhaust. Best time to date is 12.26@112.47mph.
-1990 5.0 LX(original owner) 349 BOSS block, Twisted Wedge heads, Holley intake, Vortech Si trim. Made 636hp to the wheels with a street tune.

FracaSHO


Quote from: BMC10SEC50 on April 02, 2014, 12:53:23 PM
My car:

2013 SHO-
Nov 2013 I went 12.86@108.00 with just a 93 tune and K&N air filter.

Last night(video posted under videos)I went 12.79@108.28 with a tune, CAI, off road pipe, plugs and thermostat. I think the tune is off a little and I did email LMS about it. Any thoughts??

Weather on both night was pretty much the same.

IMO the 12.79 is probably where you should be with that set up. The 12.86 was a GREAT time for that setup. I would be doing cartwheels down the strip if I ran 12's with just a tune.


Brad
2010 SHO with PP
170* T-Stat
NGK LTR7IX plugs, gap at 0.030
BOV VTA
MyCal LMS Stage 4+
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2010 Tuxedo Black SHO w/ PP

BiGMaC

Quote from: BMC10SEC50 on April 02, 2014, 01:30:59 PM
Iheart- I'm a Fox body Mustang guy so maybe I was expecting to much. Back in the day if you put a CAI and off road pipe on a 5.0 you would gain 2-3 tenths so I guess that's what I was thinking.

Regarding expecting too much.... well I tend to agree at least as far as the CAI. I would expect you to pick up 15-20WHP with earlier turbo spooling (low end HP and Torque quicker).... based on dyno testing 3 sets of DPs on my car back to back.   
I actually just got off the phone with Andy at LMS regarding the CAI and tune tweak.   He says that the 3.5 EB can get more air through the CAI with this tweak and see some performance improvement, but that it is only 5-7 WHP on their dyno in the 3.5TT EB engine as opposed to twice that much in cars with a non-torque based set of ECU algorithms and their CAI.  I've posted dyno results on my car with stock tune regarding the stock intake and filter.... As soon as I get my T-stat changed and re-gap my plugs I plan to do the same testing with the tune..... and at the same time with 2BAR vs 3BAR MAP sensors.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

BMC10SEC50

 I haven't had time to really play with it but LMS sent me a new tune that made 10 more horsepower than the previous tune I had and the shifts points should be better on this one. We'll see how it is and I'll let you know!
-2013 SHO PP with Unleashed 3 bar tune, CAI, plugs, thermostat, off road downpipes and Corsa exhaust. Best time to date is 12.26@112.47mph.
-1990 5.0 LX(original owner) 349 BOSS block, Twisted Wedge heads, Holley intake, Vortech Si trim. Made 636hp to the wheels with a street tune.

BMC10SEC50

 I did a few test hits the other night and the car feels good with the new 93v8 tune. Heading to the track tomorrow night.
-2013 SHO PP with Unleashed 3 bar tune, CAI, plugs, thermostat, off road downpipes and Corsa exhaust. Best time to date is 12.26@112.47mph.
-1990 5.0 LX(original owner) 349 BOSS block, Twisted Wedge heads, Holley intake, Vortech Si trim. Made 636hp to the wheels with a street tune.

DJE624

Cool!  I'll be anxious to see how you do. 

BMC10SEC50

So once again no improvement:

12.84@107.68
12.80@107.70
12.91@107.06

The weather wasn't as good as last week but I thought it still would have improved with this new 93v8 tune. Seems like I wasted money on downpipes and a CAI.

-2013 SHO PP with Unleashed 3 bar tune, CAI, plugs, thermostat, off road downpipes and Corsa exhaust. Best time to date is 12.26@112.47mph.
-1990 5.0 LX(original owner) 349 BOSS block, Twisted Wedge heads, Holley intake, Vortech Si trim. Made 636hp to the wheels with a street tune.

SHOdded

Maybe try re-loading the tune after returning to stock?  Check all the clamps underhood?  How many miles on your SHO?  May be worth looking at the plugs for answers.
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

geswek

Hold on Brian; I'll be able to give you something to compare on the 19th -- what are you doing that weekend? You should come down to Cecil County in Maryland for Ford day and run with me.