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Throttle Body Spacer

Started by shogunal, March 27, 2014, 09:14:14 PM

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shogunal

Is anyone currently running a TBS on their SHO? If so what are the
gains or losses. Ive done some reading some state gains were intial torque and fuel economy. The negatives I read were its a scam, does nothing, computer controlled vehicles may loose performance.

SwampRat

 NO GAINS of any sort  ...  I had been considering one with vaccum ports in it but just for that reason .
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

DJE624

Has anybody actually installed and tested one on their ECO?

68_GT

on my previous G35x I put an intake plenum spacer on which was a common mod. I basically made the entire upper plenum taller. It definately made a difference in power, and the idea behind it was that it added more volume of air behind the throttle body inside the intake creating more power and feeding the front two cylinders more. I wonder if adding any more volume of air inside the intake behind the SHO throttle body with a spacer would do anything ?! OK it's probaby not enoug difference to make much difference, but I wonder if any at all ?

what are they supposed to do according to the manufacturer ?
2013 PP SHO LMS 93V10 tune, 170* T stat, 3bar, K&N drop in, plugs re-gapped, 4in exhaust tips.
UPDATE - 130K miles =blown engine. Unleashed tune and EBPP upgrade turbo billet wheels / Turbo Smart WGA's on a bran new long block. Let's get this SHO on the road !

2013 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB daily driver ;) - LMS 93 tune and CPE intercooler

DJE624

The one I had briefly on my Fusion had a rifled barrel.  Supposedly, it smoothed out the flow.  I had to take it out to fit the Typhoon in. 

BiGMaC

I've asked full race if they could make one to install my boost gauge with.  Like the one for the F150 that SW tried.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

DJE624

Quote from: BiGMaC on March 27, 2014, 10:28:30 PM
I've asked full race if they could make one to install my boost gauge with.  Like the one for the F150 that SW tried.

Great idea.  Is that the best spot to get a vac/boost read?  (I heard you could "T" any vac line.) If so, I would take one.  Just one port on the side, please!  I think it would look cool!

BiGMaC

#7
Quote from: DJE624 on March 27, 2014, 10:51:53 PM
Quote from: BiGMaC on March 27, 2014, 10:28:30 PM
I've asked full race if they could make one to install my boost gauge with.  Like the one for the F150 that SW tried.

Great idea.  Is that the best spot to get a vac/boost read?  (I heard you could "T" any vac line.) If so, I would take one.  Just one port on the side, please!  I think it would look cool!

Well you're right... you can.
 
But manufacturers recs for most of the gauges recommend a dedicated line.
 
That said, it would seem that boost would be best measured at the throttle-body between the TIP sensor and the MAP sensor, that is at the intercooler pipe to TB junction... Plus it would provide a "plug and play" install situation and have no drilling of high pressure intake parts in order to tap the boost pressure for the sensor or for securing screws. This drilling would seem to be a leak waiting to happen, especially if the plastic OEM pipes are used.  So this installation just seemed to me to be less prone to leaks.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

EcoPowerParts

Don't order the Full-Race one it won't work on the transverse.
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BiGMaC

Quote from: 4DRHTRD on March 28, 2014, 12:33:42 AM
Don't order the Full-Race one it won't work on the transverse.

Thanks I know... both size and holes are wrong talked with Jeremy last week ... Why I inquired about them making one for the SHO.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

EcoPowerParts

I have an extra throttle body and a friend who owns a machine shop, I could get some made up. The only real use would be a vacuum port and for meth but with hot pipes you have a place for meth install, just need a post TB vacuum source.
I'll check it out and see what he says we can make them for.
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SwampRat

#11
Quote from: BiGMaC on March 28, 2014, 12:50:33 AM
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on March 28, 2014, 12:33:42 AM
Don't order the Full-Race one it won't work on the transverse.

Thanks I know... both size and holes are wrong talked with Jeremy last week ... Why I inquired about them making one for the SHO.



Yup. , I found out from personal experience that  the one Full Race currently makes don't work .....
BigMac .... If you can get them to make it ..... we will come , I still want one .
2013 SHO  ....  not mine anymore

2021 Edge ST

BiGMaC

#12
If they'll do it i"ll make sure they do two!

Full race is right next to Black Market Racing... so they can use my car for CAD and fitment

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

EcoPowerParts

I don't know if the hot pipes will still fit or not after the TB spacer. We'll have to see. :)
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BiGMaC

YEs a concern... but it could even make them fit better if done right... your on!

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock