Started by SRT82ECOBOOST, March 15, 2014, 02:21:15 PM
Quote from: Livernois Motorsports on April 12, 2014, 12:58:19 PMIn regards to the question of whether or not upgraded rods and pistons are necessary for the 3.5L Ecoboost, here are a couple of photos of an engine that was sent to us for upgrading after suffering a failure. This was a rather high output engine with tune, turbos, etc. As the pictures show, there is a power limit to what the stock parts will handle before failure. From examining the pistons, rings and bearings there are no signs of this failure being related to detonation or fuel. At power levels above 400WHP you start to get into a territory where the parts are near their outer limits, Beyond 450WHP you get into the territory where it's just a matter of when, not if, the stock rods and pistons will have a failure, because of this a piston and rod upgrade become practically a necessity in order to avoid eventual catastrophic engine failure. Again, while you could probably get away with running the stock bottom end near the 450WHP level, it's only a matter of time before the parts will catastrophically fail.
Quote from: SHOdded on April 12, 2014, 01:15:31 PMBeing a neophyte, I feel uniquely qualified to ask this question: Can we use parts from the F150 for these boosted power levels, or do we really need a package similar to what Livernois offers? Any comparisons between the OEM F150 parts and the LMS upgraded parts for the transverse engine? TIA!
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on April 12, 2014, 01:44:42 PMQuote from: Livernois Motorsports on April 12, 2014, 12:58:19 PMIn regards to the question of whether or not upgraded rods and pistons are necessary for the 3.5L Ecoboost, here are a couple of photos of an engine that was sent to us for upgrading after suffering a failure. This was a rather high output engine with tune, turbos, etc. As the pictures show, there is a power limit to what the stock parts will handle before failure. From examining the pistons, rings and bearings there are no signs of this failure being related to detonation or fuel. At power levels above 400WHP you start to get into a territory where the parts are near their outer limits, Beyond 450WHP you get into the territory where it's just a matter of when, not if, the stock rods and pistons will have a failure, because of this a piston and rod upgrade become practically a necessity in order to avoid eventual catastrophic engine failure. Again, while you could probably get away with running the stock bottom end near the 450WHP level, it's only a matter of time before the parts will catastrophically fail.Once you did this big bore kit with pistons and rods... How streetable will the truck be?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on April 12, 2014, 01:46:12 PMAnd can the trans and all handle this upgrade??Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: panther427 on April 12, 2014, 02:10:59 PMIt will. But not a ton if the comprestion ratio isnt changed or more boost isnt added.
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on April 15, 2014, 12:14:59 PMLMSWill you guys be doing this upgrade to your Xsport?If so can you post dyno results or any other tech info on benefits of this package.( besides strengthening the motor)ThxSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: SwampRat on April 15, 2014, 12:29:53 PMQuote from: bigmoneycloser on April 15, 2014, 12:14:59 PMLMSWill you guys be doing this upgrade to your Xsport?If so can you post dyno results or any other tech info on benefits of this package.( besides strengthening the motor)ThxSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Mo money mo money .... just give em mo money ..... I don't think your playin fair ..... LOL Just ship it to them with a big fat wad of cash ... then no one can touch you , BMC
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on April 15, 2014, 01:22:54 PMAny idea how much power this block will handle?
Quote from: bigmoneycloser on April 15, 2014, 01:24:37 PMQuote from: FoMoCoSHO on April 15, 2014, 01:22:54 PMAny idea how much power this block will handle?Probably more than the tranny can handle I'm sure...lolSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
