Ford racing gauges??????

[FracaSHO]

I need to fill the 3 empty holes in my center gauge pod. I want ford racing gauges, and nothing else.

1) Boost.
2) oil or fuel pressure?  Which one, pros and cons for both?
3) I originally wanted an air/fuel gauge. But Ford Racing doesn't have one. But I read that a pyrometer can be used to monitor air/fuel: if the EGT is hot, running rich. EGT cold, running lean. Am I correct?  I would like to be able to keep an eye on this since I am going to tune and mod, eventually, and I have had a bad experience with a tuner in the past. I just want to make sure my SHO is running good.

Thanks.


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[steve142857]

I have boost, water temp and oil pressure... Oil pressure is useless for me. I may change it for air-fuel ratio eventually... This is the second pod I buy from crash (Chris Curtis) and been having These three gauges for almost two years now. Prosports gauges. First were with "needle" now digital...

[Frozen Taurus]

Monitoring EGT's is fairly useless. High EGT's can be a sign of a lean tune or a tune that has a lot of engine knock and timing retard because of the lean condition. But I have also seen high EGTs from extremely rich condition and possible knock from that....

I have had a EGT probe and gauge in my Talon for years and I never use it anymore.

Three gauges that are a must are wide band o2, fuel pressure and boost

[Larrylu]

Monitoring EGT's is fairly useless. High EGT's can be a sign of a lean tune or a tune that has a lot of engine knock and timing retard because of the lean condition. But I have also seen high EGTs from extremely rich condition and possible knock from that....

I have had a EGT probe and gauge in my Talon for years and I never use it anymore.

Three gauges that are a must are wide band o2, fuel pressure and boost

Please elaborate on the wide band and it's importance.

[Frozen Taurus]

Wide band readings are actual AF ratios coming out of your engine....you get instant feedback on what's going with your engine under WOT conditions

[crash712us]

I hear you there I was the same way when I saw the Ford racing gauges. In my opinion just about all gauges are mostly aesthetics. But answer to one of your question a fuel pressure gauge I don't think would be beneficial as I don't think there is a gauge available to display DI fuel pressures which in our case would read beyond 2000psi. However you could monitor lift pump fuel pressure, but its not ideally what you'd be after.
Now with that all said, don't for get about Autometer custom shop. You can design your own gauges.

Here some gauges I designed for 2010-2012 taurus sho.

[Frozen Taurus]

But answer to one of your question a fuel pressure gauge I don't think would be beneficial as I don't think there is a gauge available to display DI fuel pressures which in our case would read beyond 2000psi. However you could monitor lift pump fuel pressure, but its not ideally what you'd be after.

Here some gauges I designed for 2010-2012 taurus sho.

Yes not sure there is anything that can handle that kinda of pressure as far as sending units go....nor would I want to plumb one into the fuel system in case of a leak 

[FracaSHO]

So boost, wideband and oil pressure or EGT?  How would I interpret the wideband? What should the air/fuel be? Does it change with different tunes? How do I know what it should be?  Sorry for all the "newbie" questions, I'm not well versed on this subject.


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[Frozen Taurus]

At idle WB readings will sweep back and forth around 14.7:1 .... under WOT it will stop sweeping and land at desired AF ratio according to the tune. I tune for 11.3:1 on pump gas but will go leaner with methanol injection...more like 11.7:1.

Some tuners stay on the rich side 10.2:1 ... but that's a little too safe I think

[crash712us]

So boost, wideband and oil pressure or EGT?  How would I interpret the wideband? What should the air/fuel be? Does it change with different tunes? How do I know what it should be?  Sorry for all the "newbie" questions, I'm not well versed on this subject.


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With A/F ratio's 14.1 is stoich meaning this would be the happy medium not to rich and not to lean. Lower numbers less then 14 are rich, higher number above 14 are lean. So at idle fully warmed up you should see near 14 also at a cruise, at WOT it will probably drop to the 10's and under deceleration with throttle closed will go extremely lean. But whats important is you never go lean while under a load.

[FracaSHO]

So if I go with a boost and wideband, what should my third gauge be?


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[BiGMaC]

My choice for #3 would be oil pressure.  Better than an idiot light and better chance of preventing destruction of lubricated engine parts/mods.

[DJE624]

X2 on the oil pressure gauge.

[Wild13SHO]

I see no point in running an AFR gauge unless you have a warning light setup on it. How are you going to watch the gauge when you're WOT and say racing. A single EGT gauge isn't all that useful either, should be ready individual port EGTs.
Oil temps would be a good gauge especially if you plan on running a lower thermostat. You want to make sure your oil is up to temp prior to beating on the car or making sure its not too hot. Maybe a water/math fail safe gauge with warning light and a trans temp gauge will be my other two.Oil pressure might not be a bad idea.

[bpd1151]

It's kind of funny reading all the back -n- forth discussion on what gauges are needed, or for what basis a particular gauge is "necessary" (or not) versus any other gauge.

I tend to think that each of us who have the ability to run any extra gauges whatsoever, will choose what each thinks is best for their own application.

Different owners will have differing reasons for running w/e it is that they choose to.... it's an argument that is somewhat akin to what brands or weights, or types of oil to use.

All that said, each gauge will obviously monitor said specific parameter it was designed/intended for.... 

Reading over the (some) of the posts contained in this thread, I would say that going forward, subsequent posters should keep in mind, that an articulation of what each gauge is designed to perform, as well as why it may be important to monitor said parameter, would hold significantly more weight, than simply interjecting an unsupported opinion on what is better, and what is useless, or there's no need to monitor blah blah blah and so on and so on.....

Here's a pic of my set up as it sits to this day:



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