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Might finally be time to worry about the transmission

Started by EcoPowerParts, October 31, 2013, 12:23:28 AM

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ZSHO



2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

rowland2004


SHOdded

Does your SHO have the Performance Package, rowland?  Does the stutter still happen with AdvanceTrac completely off (ESC and TC)?  Maybe there's a new calibration that the dealership can put on (ask them)?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

rowland2004

No it is non PP. I do turn off the traction control within the menus but get the same results.

John Miller

Gonna pipe in a little late on this.

I recently switched over to a Livernois tune (V10) and love it.  But, because of the 1-2 shutter, I went from the regular 93 tune, to the softer shift 93 tune, and today down to a new 93 tune that puts the 1-2 pressures at or near stock levels.

If you drive the car nice for a bit, the stutter goes away as the adaptive learning knocks the pressures down.  But, after 3 or so WOTs, the stutter returns for a while -- I assume because the computer adjusts the pressure back up in response to your aggressive driving.  I would also assume that, with stock power, that increased pressure "percentage" was fine, but is still too much for the new power.  Just a theory.
2015 Taurus SHO, Non-PP, 93 Octane Livernois V10 "Soft Shift" Tune with 170 Reische Thermostat and 3-bar MAP sensor

SHOdded

Your car is still running OEM fluid, John?  You might want to switch out to Amsoil Signature (even if you have lo miles right now) and see if it helps.  Aggressive driving demands better products supporting/protecting your ride.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

rowland2004

Quote from: John Miller on May 24, 2016, 06:21:43 PM
Gonna pipe in a little late on this.

I recently switched over to a Livernois tune (V10) and love it.  But, because of the 1-2 shutter, I went from the regular 93 tune, to the softer shift 93 tune, and today down to a new 93 tune that puts the 1-2 pressures at or near stock levels.

If you drive the car nice for a bit, the stutter goes away as the adaptive learning knocks the pressures down.  But, after 3 or so WOTs, the stutter returns for a while -- I assume because the computer adjusts the pressure back up in response to your aggressive driving.  I would also assume that, with stock power, that increased pressure "percentage" was fine, but is still too much for the new power.  Just a theory.


John,

I also still get the stutter after 3-4wot pulls not back to back but if in the same few days with the stutter coming back. Also have the softer shifting tune.


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John Miller

I've never had it on 3-4 shifts - though I'm not sure I have the nerve to still be running WOT at those speeds :). Your other option would be to ask them to return the pressures to "near stock." That has to help, though might not completely cure it. Tell ANTHONY that another guy on the Internet just got the tune you want - he will remember me.

Shod - funny you ask. BG trans flush in the morning - though they insisted on using BG fluid. I at least confirmed it will be LV certified.

I have Redline on my tool bench for the PTU and the RDU. Will be doing that myself next week.


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2015 Taurus SHO, Non-PP, 93 Octane Livernois V10 "Soft Shift" Tune with 170 Reische Thermostat and 3-bar MAP sensor

rowland2004

Sorry meant 1-2 shifts


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SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

John Miller

10-4. Costing $210, which is a little extreme, but we'll see


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2015 Taurus SHO, Non-PP, 93 Octane Livernois V10 "Soft Shift" Tune with 170 Reische Thermostat and 3-bar MAP sensor

ZSHO

Quote from: John Miller on May 24, 2016, 08:01:21 PM
I've never had it on 3-4 shifts - though I'm not sure I have the nerve to still be running WOT at those speeds :). Your other option would be to ask them to return the pressures to "near stock." That has to help, though might not completely cure it. Tell ANTHONY that another guy on the Internet just got the tune you want - he will remember me.

Shod - funny you ask. BG trans flush in the morning - though they insisted on using BG fluid. I at least confirmed it will be LV certified.

I have Redline on my tool bench for the PTU and the RDU. Will be doing that myself next week.


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Dont believe Redline makes 80w-90 for the RDU,only 75-90 IMO & would confirm prior to install.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

John Miller

#42
Yea, I'm willing to live on the edge there. Redline is top shelf stuff.  The viscosity difference is negligible.  Is there concern?


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2015 Taurus SHO, Non-PP, 93 Octane Livernois V10 "Soft Shift" Tune with 170 Reische Thermostat and 3-bar MAP sensor

SHOdded

#43
Redline 75w90 should be ok, they include the Ford XY-80W90-QL spec in the list.
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=133&pcid=4

The PTU fluid will be more critical anyway.  It is a very harsh environment.
http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=134&pcid=4



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2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

John Miller

Yep, those are the two weights I bought. I'm a big Amsoil fan for motor oil, but Redline for everything else.  It was Redline I wanted for the trans, but was told no.


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2015 Taurus SHO, Non-PP, 93 Octane Livernois V10 "Soft Shift" Tune with 170 Reische Thermostat and 3-bar MAP sensor