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Started by whitltng, October 09, 2013, 08:24:02 PM

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whitltng

dont really know if the sho pp or nonpp has an lsd option.. i know the 2014 model has that active brake asst which they say has a lsd affect...

basicly new to the whole awd ford plated form can anyone school me on this or have a good website to read on....
thing i wanna know and cant seem to find the correct answer
power to wheels percentage  40/50..60/40 which is it
dose the 6f65 have lsd and was their an factory option
anyone make a performance clutch kit or tq convert..

thanks in advance

DJE624

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Howdy!  Not sure what you mean by lsd.  But, if it has to do with the Ecoboost, somebody here does.  I do know that this will be your best place to learn about all things Ecoboost.  In stock form, on the SHO anyway, the power to front and rear is pretty equal with a max 150 to the rear when called for.  It's pretty complicated tho, how and when that power is delivered. From what I have learned, it is basically a front drive system unless slippage requires power be sent to the rear.  I can't remember for sure if one or two of the guys have torque converters.  Maybe, but I don't think so. 

EDIT-Limited Slip Differential!  I'm getting old.  Give me a break.

There are some threads and posts regarding the traction control on PP vs. Non PP.

bpd1151

Dave that's not true about the power split.

On the SHO's specifically, it is about 70 percent upfront and 30 percent to the rear.

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DJE624

Okay, about 70/30 it is. 

BigPelo

I know my 2013 has "torque vectoring" which apply brakes to the inside wheels during hard turning, if that's what you mean. No Limited Slip Differential to my knowledge on the performance package SHO.
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whitltng

Quote from: BigPelo on October 10, 2013, 10:56:30 AM
I know my 2013 has "torque vectoring" which apply brakes to the inside wheels during hard turning, if that's what you mean. No Limited Slip Differential to my knowledge on the performance package SHO.

yea thats fake lsd ..real lsd  makes both tires spin the same amount of  power...that torque vectoring is like active handling...

05yellowgt


Quote from: whitltng on October 10, 2013, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on October 10, 2013, 10:56:30 AM
I know my 2013 has "torque vectoring" which apply brakes to the inside wheels during hard turning, if that's what you mean. No Limited Slip Differential to my knowledge on the performance package SHO.

yea thats fake lsd ..real lsd  makes both tires spin the same amount of  power...that torque vectoring is like active handling...
A limited slip does not send equal amounts of torque to both wheels, only locker or spool will do that. A limited slip, via gears or clutches, works to prevent 100% of the torque from directing to the slipping wheel.  There is always a toque bias to one wheel or the other with a limited slip differential.
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Josephm

It shocks me that ford is still investing in the "torque vectoring" when its basically garbage and they swapping in LSD's into the EB focus's. I would hate to have my brakes wear fast from erratic driving.
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whitltng

Quote from: 05yellowgt on October 10, 2013, 08:18:48 PM

Quote from: whitltng on October 10, 2013, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on October 10, 2013, 10:56:30 AM
I know my 2013 has "torque vectoring" which apply brakes to the inside wheels during hard turning, if that's what you mean. No Limited Slip Differential to my knowledge on the performance package SHO.

yea thats fake lsd ..real lsd  makes both tires spin the same amount of  power...that torque vectoring is like active handling...
A limited slip does not send equal amounts of torque to both wheels, only locker or spool will do that. A limited slip, via gears or clutches, works to prevent 100% of the torque from directing to the slipping wheel.  There is always a toque bias to one wheel or the other with a limited slip differential.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential4.htm

so yes lsd send tq to both wheels...theirs diff type clutch lockers and spool like you said...im just asking if theres one in the 6f65

EcoBrick Bob

To really understand lsd.... you need to go to the Timothy Leary website....

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05yellowgt


Quote from: whitltng on October 10, 2013, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: 05yellowgt on October 10, 2013, 08:18:48 PM

Quote from: whitltng on October 10, 2013, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: BigPelo on October 10, 2013, 10:56:30 AM
I know my 2013 has "torque vectoring" which apply brakes to the inside wheels during hard turning, if that's what you mean. No Limited Slip Differential to my knowledge on the performance package SHO.

yea thats fake lsd ..real lsd  makes both tires spin the same amount of  power...that torque vectoring is like active handling...
A limited slip does not send equal amounts of torque to both wheels, only locker or spool will do that. A limited slip, via gears or clutches, works to prevent 100% of the torque from directing to the slipping wheel.  There is always a toque bias to one wheel or the other with a limited slip differential.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential4.htm

so yes lsd send tq to both wheels...theirs diff type clutch lockers and spool like you said...im just asking if theres one in the 6f65
Right, but no limited slip provides a 50/50 torque split. The 6f65 in the SHO, Flex Ecoboost and Explorer Sport do not have limited slip differentials.
2010 Ford Flex Limited w/Ecoboost- SOLD
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whitltng

Thanks for all tge replys guys...I've been searching around seens someone on this site dropd I. An after market unit