What would you change?

[EcoBrick Bob]

My SHO-

1) 6 MT
2) 50/50 AWD power
3) Get rid of the "rake"  (ass end sticking up)
4) Use a pattern on the plastic that looks like real carbon fiber, or don't use it at all (all the trim looks tacky)
5) side bolsters on the seat (no lateral support whatsoever)
6) single turbo (so much easier/cheaper to mod)
7) vacuum-operated BOV's (not the electronic ones)
true fog lights or have the LED "fog lights" run all the time like you see all the other manufacturers doing
9) get rid of the chrome trim, it's not 1999 anymore
10) real tachometer, not that tiny little digital one
11) real subwoofer, not those 6x9 "subs"
12) option for a rear spoiler delete (or higher spoiler you can actually clean under)
13) little more leg room in the rear (don't tell me you couldn't sacrifice some of the gargantuan trunk space for some more leg room)
14) a completely different center console...I'm getting aggravated with all the silly flip up stuff
15) ditch the "flower" wheels (and no the 2014 option is not good either)


My Explorer Sport:

1) body colored door handles
2) armrests on the 2nd row split seats
3)  pretty much all the performance gripes of my SHO...AWD, turbos, BOV
4) HID's (the Limiteds get them but we don't? WTF?)
5) power folding 3rd row (once again the Sports get the shaft)
6) way to keep the backup alarm off in TOW mode
7) more color choices (I really wanted the blue)



Can't ya tell I've thought about these a lot LOL

I thought that you could get power fold seat and other crap in the $4,000.+ package.
I too agree on EX Sport issues... My daughter has a EX LTD base on order and it has all the things I would like on a Sport, including the neutral interior.  That's why I like our Flex, as the light interior was available with EB, and still is. Also like it's handling with H & R's and car-like feel. 

Single turbo has many other issues, especially lag.

[steve142857]

I was still thinking about single turbo vs twins and it looks like most of performance cars using turbos are using more than one as a setup. I actually haven't seen any high hp stock cars using single turbo...
However twin turbos include:
911 tt 3.6 480hp
GTR V6 3.8 545hp
M5 V8 4.4 560hp
E63 AMG S model V8 5.5 577hp
Bentley W12 6.0 600hp
Saleen S V8 7.0 750hp
Veyron W16 8.0 1001hp (quad turbos)
Barabus TKR V8 6.0 1005hp
Ultimate SSC Aero V8 6.3 1183hp
Then you have some underground cars that put twin turbos
On lambos, R8, GTR and they produce 1000-1500hp...
So, I don't know much about turbos, but the industry
seems to have adopted the route of twin turbos for what
I have seen...
Cheers!

[shoman04]

6-Speed Manual and equal front/rear power distribution would be nice. 

WRONG WISH!? At 300ft/lb stock 150ft/lb to the rear is 50/50 NOW!:(

[shoman04]

Lol QwikSHO! Poor you! It almost seems like the SHO is not for you...
But I understand your points. I would say that some of the points ciuld be addressed indeed by FMC, others are only a matter of taste and other are arguable. The 6MT would be fun, but probably slower or at least less consistent (at the drag, manual cars suck). The twin turbos don't have the same lag. For about 5K$, as of today, you can bring your car from 365 hp to more than 500 hp... Maybe a single turbo is easier, but at least we do have turbos! N/A cars are the ones difficult to mod and require expensive bolt-ons to get more power...
Finally, at one point, for some of your complaints, I guess it goes with the price... You can get A6 3.0T or BMW 535i, they will offer better interior quality... But then you need to pay the extra 20K$...
Cheers!

I 2ND Steve. A lot of QwikSHO wants are fun to play with but are slower at the track.

[QwikSHO]

I was still thinking about single turbo vs twins and it looks like most of performance cars using turbos are using more than one as a setup. I actually haven't seen any high hp stock cars using single turbo...
However twin turbos include:
911 tt 3.6 480hp
GTR V6 3.8 545hp
M5 V8 4.4 560hp
E63 AMG S model V8 5.5 577hp
Bentley W12 6.0 600hp
Saleen S V8 7.0 750hp
Veyron W16 8.0 1001hp (quad turbos)
Barabus TKR V8 6.0 1005hp
Ultimate SSC Aero V8 6.3 1183hp
Then you have some underground cars that put twin turbos
On lambos, R8, GTR and they produce 1000-1500hp...
So, I don't know much about turbos, but the industry
seems to have adopted the route of twin turbos for what
I have seen...
Cheers!

Add price tags to the cars you listed, please.

[DJE624]

6-Speed Manual and equal front/rear power distribution would be nice. 

WRONG WISH!? At 300ft/lb stock 150ft/lb to the rear is 50/50 NOW!:(

Based on whatever the flywheel is delivering.  Is that better?

[CooperS7777]

Lol QwikSHO! Poor you! It almost seems like the SHO is not for you...
But I understand your points. I would say that some of the points ciuld be addressed indeed by FMC, others are only a matter of taste and other are arguable. The 6MT would be fun, but probably slower or at least less consistent (at the drag, manual cars suck). The twin turbos don't have the same lag. For about 5K$, as of today, you can bring your car from 365 hp to more than 500 hp... Maybe a single turbo is easier, but at least we do have turbos! N/A cars are the ones difficult to mod and require expensive bolt-ons to get more power...
Finally, at one point, for some of your complaints, I guess it goes with the price... You can get A6 3.0T or BMW 535i, they will offer better interior quality... But then you need to pay the extra 20K$...
Cheers!

I 2ND Steve. A lot of QwikSHO wants are fun to play with but are slower at the track.

I have to laugh a little at some of these comments...have any of you had a fun car with a manual transmission?  When was the last time you guys were out on the open road rowing through the gears?  Its a completely different feel...and I know, I know "at the track..." but lets be honest - we haven't exactly purchased vehicles which are the next hot thing for outlaw class or pro-mod...were driving overweight, awd family sedans, trucks and SUV's.  Yes, the things were doing are cool, innovative and we certainly are surprising a lot of people, but to justify the automatic by "its faster at the track" is a sad excuse; especially in something with as much potential as these cars have.

How many people here have actually sent a car down the track, grabbing gears, faster than the cars were all here to talk about?  There are fast cars, and there are fast drivers, but having a fast car certainly doesn't make you a fast driver.