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3 Bar sensor

Started by SoCalSHO, August 31, 2013, 01:38:49 PM

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EcoBrick Bob

The stock MAP sensor is a 2 bar.  The 3 bar sensor Torrie sold me to be used as a MAP sensor is identical (same part #) to the 3 bar sensor in front of the throttle body.  Both read info and translate it into a voltage signal. ECM reads that signal voltage as it relates to the sensors purpose.
2010 Red Candy/White EB Flex.. World's first 12 second Brick.. 12.904 @ 106.85 MPH - October 2011
2009 Spt. Red G8 GT - modded. best time 12.074 & 114.02 MPH
2008 White G8 GT - mods... 8.32 1/8 mi.

Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
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Boggus

So......if I am running a tune and my Bluetooth OBD program shows a steady 15.4 psi, am I better served by getting a 3bar?
2013 unleashed SHO PP

EcoBrick Bob

Not necessarily... Only if you are planning on a more aggressive tune. And.. switching to a 3 bar sensor requires your tunes to be modified to accept the 3 bar data by the ECM.
2010 Red Candy/White EB Flex.. World's first 12 second Brick.. 12.904 @ 106.85 MPH - October 2011
2009 Spt. Red G8 GT - modded. best time 12.074 & 114.02 MPH
2008 White G8 GT - mods... 8.32 1/8 mi.

Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
Bob has decided not to post here any more, please do not PM him he will not receive it.

SoCalSHO

Anyone have a P/N for the 3-bar mapV sensor please. did a search, did not see it anywhere.
Robert
2010 Met White
GH tuned, 3 Bar, upgraded turbos, 91 Oct
K&N drop-in or airaid, Corsa Cat-back
1/8 Mile 8.380@83.42MPH

Boggus

#19
I have ordered one, if your answer does not appear - once mine arrives I will post it.

Maybe? AA5Z9F479B - Sensor 3.5 LITER W/TURBO
2013 unleashed SHO PP

SoCalSHO

Robert
2010 Met White
GH tuned, 3 Bar, upgraded turbos, 91 Oct
K&N drop-in or airaid, Corsa Cat-back
1/8 Mile 8.380@83.42MPH

crash712us

There is no part no. for 3 bar MAP sensor, they are modified 2 bar sensors.

2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

shoman04

Quote from: crash712us on September 23, 2013, 01:26:42 AM
There is no part no. for 3 bar MAP sensor, they are modified 2 bar sensors.
AS the newest member of the Meth group/and installed myself. THERE IS NEW REVISE. PARTS in the kit. Haven't had the time to do a thread on different, But ONE the 3bar sensor come in a ford parts box with same part # of the MAF sensor (the one before throttle-body). And 2weeks ago Andy(LMS) gave me the 3bar 170deg NO METH (XV1) tune. As part of the three 3bar tune, +stock tune (4 total). I'll get the 3bar P/N later.
2011 KONA BLU SHO,Livernois Tune,AIRAID CAI,DYNOMAX MUFFLEs,Newest member of the 12sec CLUB 12.669sec @ 107mph    2011 Ford Taurus SHO: 12.669 @ 105.050 MPH NEW FOR 2013LMS down-pipe,Magnaflow X-pipe,and Custom 2.5"exhaust pipe!! Meth and stage 5 next to be install!!!!!! METH DYNO TUNE today 405AWHP!!!WOW LMS track day 12.4209sec   :mike1:

crash712us

What you find is the part no. Is for 2 bar MAP sensor on you 3 bar MAP sensor box. It's not a off the shelf part as stated before, these are modified parts.
Shoman I don't why you see the need to trump my info all the time, LMS is 3mi's from my home I know Dan Milen well enough to have direct contact with him. So I consider myself to have a little more knowledge then most, not making this a brag. It's just simple semantics, as always I try to keep my conversations friendly and factual. And I let people believe what that want believe. So let's just leave at that my friend. No good will done here by me by proving your misinformed.

2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

EcoBrick Bob

#24
Quote from: crash712us on September 23, 2013, 01:26:42 AM
There is no part no. for 3 bar MAP sensor, they are modified 2 bar sensors.

Maybe Livernois modifies the 2 bar to work as a 3 bar, but I bought mine directly from Torrie.

As I recall, I was using a 3 bar sensor first, and Darreli got his from Torrie a month or 2 later than I did. The part # on mine is:

Line 1 FoMoCo
Line 2 AA5A-9F479-AB
Line 3 G1UHF  Germany
Line 4 5WK9 6848

I have it sitting next to me as I write.

The part # for the 2 bar sensor that came from the factory is:

Line 1  Ford
Line 2 2R3A-9F479-AA
Line 3 8K22

I also have this sitting next to me as I accidentally slammed it with my hood and broke the cage. I had to replace.  Cost roughly the same as a 3 bar sensor.
2010 Red Candy/White EB Flex.. World's first 12 second Brick.. 12.904 @ 106.85 MPH - October 2011
2009 Spt. Red G8 GT - modded. best time 12.074 & 114.02 MPH
2008 White G8 GT - mods... 8.32 1/8 mi.

Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
Bob has decided not to post here any more, please do not PM him he will not receive it.

crash712us

Not a expert on part no's. But from how they where explain to me, by a ford engineer. The part number you have there are the same, there is a prefix which could manufacture- part no. - and AA is 1st run the AB is a 2nd run.
This subject has been touch upon before on the other forum. I still have the box my 3 bar came in and part no. Is identical to the 2 bar.
And oddly enough I smashed my 2 by closing the hood also.

2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

EcoBrick Bob

#26
My Installed 2 Bar Sensor #'s are as follows:

Line 1  FoMoCo
Line 2 AA5A-9F479-CA
Line 3 G1UHF  Germany
Line 4  5WK9 6847

Note the difference on line 4.   Both of the FoMoCo German sensors came from Torrie.  He may have gotten them for Ford GT's, which he does a big parts business with.

The 2 bar sensor had a blue 0-ring and 3 bar has a red-orange O-ring.

On the sensor in front of the TB, the numbers on all 4 lines are exactly the same as my 3 bar sensor.

2010 Red Candy/White EB Flex.. World's first 12 second Brick.. 12.904 @ 106.85 MPH - October 2011
2009 Spt. Red G8 GT - modded. best time 12.074 & 114.02 MPH
2008 White G8 GT - mods... 8.32 1/8 mi.

Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
Bob has decided not to post here any more, please do not PM him he will not receive it.

BlueSHO

2016 SHO Blue Jeans
2001 Lightning
1996 Mystic Cobra

EcoBrick Bob

The simplest solution is to order one from Torrie & Fast Parts Network  (Torrie & Unleashed Tuning) 
2010 Red Candy/White EB Flex.. World's first 12 second Brick.. 12.904 @ 106.85 MPH - October 2011
2009 Spt. Red G8 GT - modded. best time 12.074 & 114.02 MPH
2008 White G8 GT - mods... 8.32 1/8 mi.

Naples, FL & Clear Lake, IA
Bob has decided not to post here any more, please do not PM him he will not receive it.

Boggus

Mine shipped today from Torrie
2013 unleashed SHO PP