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HOW-TO: Improve a bit on the X35 Phenolic Spacer
« on: July 30, 2020, 11:09:48 PM »
..and think I found a small way to improve it...

Got it today and looks like a great product and look forward to getting it installed to see if it can mitigate IM heat soak issues further.  I still need to order the additional gaskets before I can install it.

When I mocked it up and placed the hardware in the holes so I can see if I would need to do any port matching, I found it suffered from the same issue as the BBK throttle body.  Not the fault of the spacer, but more the fault of the IM.  The bolts holes are just too large for the hardware and allow for a lot of play.  This would make any attempt at port matching it futile as it would be difficult to place properly when installing it.  So...just as with the BBK, I used the same logic here. and it worked perfect...



Spacer with gaskets installed:


Thickness of spacer for those curious:


Dowels created for improvement:
5/16" OD,  0.035" wall thickness, 304 stainless tubing, cut to about 0.8" length (can't be any longer than 0.9")


Picked any 2 holes far apart from each other and drilled with 5/16" drill bit:


Drilled matching holes in spacer, same 5/16" drill bit:


Dowels installed into spacer:


Perfect tight fit onto IM:


Will need minimal port matching, mostly just a little of the spacer needs to be matched to the ports, but Steve did a great job of getting it super close.

There ya go.  I can probably drill the bolt hole very slightly using the same 5/16" drill bit for the match holes in the heads and push those dowels through the spacer slightly.  That would get this setup 100% dead-nuts tight and centered from head to spacer to IM...
« Last Edit: July 31, 2020, 11:44:45 AM by Ecoboost_xsport »
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Re: HOW-TO: Improve a bit on the X35 Phenolic Spacer
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2020, 10:05:08 AM »
Excellent idea.
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Re: HOW-TO: Improve a bit on the X35 Phenolic Spacer
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2020, 11:59:25 AM »
I've been asked about making these available.

Anybody else interested? I could do these sets for, let's say $20 shipped. I'm not making much. About $8.50 is shipping ,PayPal takes 4%, plus cost of materials (per set). I'm making lil more than $5 a set for my labor.

LOL...damn, I might need to charge more haha.
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Re: HOW-TO: Improve a bit on the X35 Phenolic Spacer
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2020, 07:00:05 PM »
Good idea - I had a similar idea in my mind at the start of the project too, but I wasn't sure if it would work for every car, given the giant holes Ford puts in the IM vs the diameter of the bolts...I figured I better copy their scheme, as there might have been a reason.  After seeing a few spacers get installed, it appears that they are all pretty similar and fit consistently though.

 :beer2:

Oh BTW, I've about 14 left to make to finish the wait list, then the spacers will be set up in my store like a normal item, so if you didn't / couldn't get in now, they'll be available in the future.

 

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Re: HOW-TO: Improve a bit on the X35 Phenolic Spacer
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2020, 09:25:01 PM »
Good idea - I had a similar idea in my mind at the start of the project too, but I wasn't sure if it would work for every car, given the giant holes Ford puts in the IM vs the diameter of the bolts...I figured I better copy their scheme, as there might have been a reason.  After seeing a few spacers get installed, it appears that they are all pretty similar and fit consistently though.

 :beer2:

Oh BTW, I've about 14 left to make to finish the wait list, then the spacers will be set up in my store like a normal item, so if you didn't / couldn't get in now, they'll be available in the future.
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Re: HOW-TO: Improve a bit on the X35 Phenolic Spacer
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2020, 08:45:19 PM »
Finally have a few sets done if you are interested.



I know there were a few on other boards that showed interest, just hit me up here and I'll DM you paypal info if you are interested.  It'll be $20 shipped.  Thanks.
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Re: HOW-TO: Improve a bit on the X35 Phenolic Spacer
« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2020, 09:46:21 PM »
Just got done port matching my spacer to my intake runners.  You can't even feel a change in the transition it's so smooth. This process is not possible without the alignment dowels.

Now, when I get my heads exposed, I'll entertain the idea of matching the bottom part of the spacer to the openings in the head...

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