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Traded in the SHO.......
« on: June 30, 2020, 09:21:53 PM »
So I guess I gotta leave the forum. I traded in the SHO.

It was a long long battle with COVID and dealers, and Sales people and test drives etc. I was working at this since June 8th. We were trying to keep it under 55K MSRP and did not want to got laterally like a Stinger or Charger etc. My wife did not want anything too big like a Ford Explorer. So that meant a more compact SUV and bold colors.

We started LOW and worked our way up. We did not look at "Miller Lite" SUVs or any with a CVT. Meaning made for the masses like Nissan(CVTs), Toyota Rav4, Honda HR-V, Mazda MX5, Subaru Forester etc.

No Dodge or Jeep.

Oh man. Lets see I test drove the following:

Yes I drove a lot of cars.

Acura RDX Advanced : We had this over nite Saturday noon til Sunday 5pmish. Plenty of time to debug and test it out. POS Infotainment and other major issues. Such a disappointment. MDX. Um. Nice ride just out dated to whats out there. RDX out shines it and thats not saying much.

BMW M3 X-Drive 30I. I wanted to test out the V6 X3 X40I but they are super hard to find. I liked this. My wife liked the Edge more because 5k less. Very solid car. Just tight storage space at the front near the gear selector. Great heads up and the LCD Dashboard is amazing. Infotainment is great. Harmon Kardon sound is great. I would rank my choices BMW M3. Edge ST, and Volvo XC40 T5 R-Design. $49K, $44k, 43K roughly after discounts etc.

Cadillac X4 and X5 : Not bad but no real power per say and not sporty enough. X4 4cyl Turbo and X5 GM V6. Decent tho decent.

Chevy Blazer RS : Wow another POS. Looks MEAN meaning good from the outside. Sitting in the seat. My view of the LED temp LED setting is cut in half by the dash over hang. Hard plastic everywhere. The Dashboard display is tilted at a downward angle and it is really bad unless you are 4'9". No upgrades except cosmetic with the RS package. Say WHAT ???

Lincoln Corsair : Meh. Nothing special and under powered.

Hyundai, Kona, Tuscon, Santa Fe. Their Infotainment is Outstanding. Just spot on intuitive. Kona is an ok car. Tuscon is boring but still a value. Santa Fe 2.0T (Veloster motor) is detuned and just lacking but the Santa FE is an outstanding Value with the Limited trim level. Great color choices. Good heads up. Their 360 camera is amazing at its price. Its really something to check out. Side mirrors tilt. Turn signal on and your camera appears in the middle of the dash for the direction you are going. It really has everything well thought out. Just so Soccer mom boring to drive.

Kia. Sportage and Sorento are good. Same infotainment as Hyundai. Sportage is decent but the Higher trim Sorento gets the V6 and 3 rows. Still too soccer mom like tho.The Diamond is the New SELTOS. WOW. Its like a Mini Ford Explorer. The Base engine is great with the 7 speed trans. Then you can get the 1.6ltr Turbo and it goes 0-60 in like 6.5 seconds. Its buzzy bc economy car but man what a car value. The SX trim you get really good Bose sound and that awesome infotainment for under 30k with a Sunroof. Awesome color choices. Kia NAILED it. But COVID took em down. They just released the car and its got limited inventory. The TELLURIDE is another Gem WOW. But try to find one. Was too big for the misses.

Volvo XC40 and XC60. The Volvo XC40 T5 R-design is a good car. A lil over priced but all in all a good package. Lacking in rear under cargo floor storage like what are you doing Volvo. Its really a decent car. Over 1 hour away and it was very hard to shop and compare. The XC60 T6. Supercharged Turbocharged motor. Sound Promising but with a heavy car, It was underwhelming. PLUS it sucked for USB ports and connectivity. Both USBs were in the armrest compartment? WTF Volvo. Super poor design.

Ford Edge Titanium and ST. Titanium is not bad just under powered for me and its so close to a discounted ST that why do you not want a 2.7TT motor? We drove oh jeez 5 Edges? Had two over nite.

NOW .......   I have to REJOIN the Server as we are picking up a 2020 Ford Edge ST on Friday. Yep. When you have a SHO its just hard to drive a SUV that has no power. But even tho the Edge was released in 2013? It does everything well. We got the 21" wheels. It has the recessed SYNC 3 dated screen but its Solid Infotainment. Wireless charging. Front and rear cams. Plenty of charging and storage. Even a 110volt outlet for rear occupants. The ST Seats are comfy. It rides well. 2 USB ports that connect to the Head unit. Android Auto Works but its a work in progress. Plus 2.7 TT can be tuned. It is amazing what you read and then go out and see touch feel smell. The Edge is still not a bad platform. But you read reviews on the RDX and people are OMG Acura has a gem on their hands. Well thats not my opinion.

I would rank my choices BMW M3 Xdrive 30I. Ford Edge ST, and Volvo XC40 T5 R-Design. $49K, $44k, 43K roughly after discounts etc in my Market

Here is what we are getting.

https://www.manderbachford.net/inventory/new-vehicles/vehicle/2FMPK4AP4LBA38874/2020-Ford-Edge-Hamburg-PA

Here are the others we liked.

https://www.bmwofreading.com/new/BMW/2020-BMW-X3-1cc7706a0a0d0cc7214354801e21c29f.htm

https://www.scottvolvocarsallentown.com/new/Volvo/2020-Volvo-XC40-for-sale-allentown-pa-b944bca50a0e0adf666e9d8ace32d4a2.htm

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Re: Traded in the SHO.......
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2020, 10:08:12 PM »
So I guess I gotta leave the forum. I traded in the SHO.

It was a long long battle with COVID and dealers, and Sales people and test drives etc. I was working at this since June 8th. We were trying to keep it under 55K MSRP and did not want to got laterally like a Stinger or Charger etc. My wife did not want anything too big like a Ford Explorer. So that meant a more compact SUV and bold colors.

We started LOW and worked our way up. We did not look at "Miller Lite" SUVs or any with a CVT. Meaning made for the masses like Nissan(CVTs), Toyota Rav4, Honda HR-V, Mazda MX5, Subaru Forester etc.

No Dodge or Jeep.

Oh man. Lets see I test drove the following:

Yes I drove a lot of cars.

Acura RDX Advanced : We had this over nite Saturday noon til Sunday 5pmish. Plenty of time to debug and test it out. POS Infotainment and other major issues. Such a disappointment. MDX. Um. Nice ride just out dated to whats out there. RDX out shines it and thats not saying much.

BMW M3 X-Drive 30I. I wanted to test out the V6 X3 X40I but they are super hard to find. I liked this. My wife liked the Edge more because 5k less. Very solid car. Just tight storage space at the front near the gear selector. Great heads up and the LCD Dashboard is amazing. Infotainment is great. Harmon Kardon sound is great. I would rank my choices BMW M3. Edge ST, and Volvo XC40 T5 R-Design. $49K, $44k, 43K roughly after discounts etc.

Cadillac X4 and X5 : Not bad but no real power per say and not sporty enough. X4 4cyl Turbo and X5 GM V6. Decent tho decent.

Chevy Blazer RS : Wow another POS. Looks MEAN meaning good from the outside. Sitting in the seat. My view of the LED temp LED setting is cut in half by the dash over hang. Hard plastic everywhere. The Dashboard display is tilted at a downward angle and it is really bad unless you are 4'9". No upgrades except cosmetic with the RS package. Say WHAT ???

Lincoln Corsair : Meh. Nothing special and under powered.

Hyundai, Kona, Tuscon, Santa Fe. Their Infotainment is Outstanding. Just spot on intuitive. Kona is an ok car. Tuscon is boring but still a value. Santa Fe 2.0T (Veloster motor) is detuned and just lacking but the Santa FE is an outstanding Value with the Limited trim level. Great color choices. Good heads up. Their 360 camera is amazing at its price. Its really something to check out. Side mirrors tilt. Turn signal on and your camera appears in the middle of the dash for the direction you are going. It really has everything well thought out. Just so Soccer mom boring to drive.

Kia. Sportage and Sorento are good. Same infotainment as Hyundai. Sportage is decent but the Higher trim Sorento gets the V6 and 3 rows. Still too soccer mom like tho.The Diamond is the New SELTOS. WOW. Its like a Mini Ford Explorer. The Base engine is great with the 7 speed trans. Then you can get the 1.6ltr Turbo and it goes 0-60 in like 6.5 seconds. Its buzzy bc economy car but man what a car value. The SX trim you get really good Bose sound and that awesome infotainment for under 30k with a Sunroof. Awesome color choices. Kia NAILED it. But COVID took em down. They just released the car and its got limited inventory. The TELLURIDE is another Gem WOW. But try to find one. Was too big for the misses.

Volvo XC40 and XC60. The Volvo XC40 T5 R-design is a good car. A lil over priced but all in all a good package. Lacking in rear under cargo floor storage like what are you doing Volvo. Its really a decent car. Over 1 hour away and it was very hard to shop and compare. The XC60 T6. Supercharged Turbocharged motor. Sound Promising but with a heavy car, It was underwhelming. PLUS it sucked for USB ports and connectivity. Both USBs were in the armrest compartment? WTF Volvo. Super poor design.

Ford Edge Titanium and ST. Titanium is not bad just under powered for me and its so close to a discounted ST that why do you not want a 2.7TT motor? We drove oh jeez 5 Edges? Had two over nite.

NOW .......   I have to REJOIN the Server as we are picking up a 2020 Ford Edge ST on Friday. Yep. When you have a SHO its just hard to drive a SUV that has no power. But even tho the Edge was released in 2013? It does everything well. We got the 21" wheels. It has the recessed SYNC 3 dated screen but its Solid Infotainment. Wireless charging. Front and rear cams. Plenty of charging and storage. Even a 110volt outlet for rear occupants. The ST Seats are comfy. It rides well. 2 USB ports that connect to the Head unit. Android Auto Works but its a work in progress. Plus 2.7 TT can be tuned. It is amazing what you read and then go out and see touch feel smell. The Edge is still not a bad platform. But you read reviews on the RDX and people are OMG Acura has a gem on their hands. Well thats not my opinion.

I would rank my choices BMW M3 Xdrive 30I. Ford Edge ST, and Volvo XC40 T5 R-Design. $49K, $44k, 43K roughly after discounts etc in my Market

Here is what we are getting.

https://www.manderbachford.net/inventory/new-vehicles/vehicle/2FMPK4AP4LBA38874/2020-Ford-Edge-Hamburg-PA

Here are the others we liked.

https://www.bmwofreading.com/new/BMW/2020-BMW-X3-1cc7706a0a0d0cc7214354801e21c29f.htm

https://www.scottvolvocarsallentown.com/new/Volvo/2020-Volvo-XC40-for-sale-allentown-pa-b944bca50a0e0adf666e9d8ace32d4a2.htm
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Re: Traded in the SHO.......
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2020, 10:49:10 PM »
@Macgyver.....

No reason to leave just because your SHOless.

Stick around and post pics of your new whip.

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Re: Traded in the SHO.......
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2020, 12:15:07 AM »
@Macgyver.....

No reason to leave just because your SHOless.

Stick around and post pics of your new whip.

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I gotta leave and rejoin because I got an Edge ST. lol

I was just kidding with that. Gotta read the whole post. I know its long.

But its got an 8 speed. Its not SHO fast but I am sure it tunes well. Almost the same weight SHO vs Edge ST.

The Edge ST doesnt do anything really wrong. If it had a Heads Up Display. That would be awesomer.

New Ride.......

https://www.manderbachford.net/inventory/new-vehicles/vehicle/2FMPK4AP4LBA38874/2020-Ford-Edge-Hamburg-PA
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Re: Traded in the SHO.......
« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2020, 01:13:39 AM »
Congrats on the new ride!
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Re: Traded in the SHO.......
« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2020, 01:20:57 AM »
I did read the entire post actually, and saw you "settled" on the Edge ST.

Anyhoo......

That's actually one of the vehicles my wife and I are considering on replacing our fully loaded w/every option possible, '09 Chrysler Aspen Limited that we recently sold privately.

We're also scoping out the Hyundai Palisade Limited as well (besides the Edge ST) so I'll be interested in hearing your experiences.

Thanks for the link. Looks sharp AF!

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Re: Traded in the SHO.......
« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2020, 10:46:21 AM »
I did read the entire post actually, and saw you "settled" on the Edge ST.

Anyhoo......

That's actually one of the vehicles my wife and I are considering on replacing our fully loaded w/every option possible, '09 Chrysler Aspen Limited that we recently sold privately.

We're also scoping out the Hyundai Palisade Limited as well (besides the Edge ST) so I'll be interested in hearing your experiences.

Thanks for the link. Looks sharp AF!

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Re: Traded in the SHO.......
« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2020, 03:46:58 PM »
Congrats on the new ride!!! Maybe you can get the ST section going with SM105K!!

No need to create a new account unless you want to change your username, I might be able to change it... let me know..

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Re: Traded in the SHO.......
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2020, 04:38:41 PM »
Yeah, come hang out with me in the ST Section.
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Re: Traded in the SHO.......
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2020, 06:33:00 PM »
That is a real upgrade.  You get the ability to go fast still but have a lot more capability in your vehicle.  Do you plan on modifying and tuning it?  I would simply ask your dealer what you may want to do with it and see what they think in terms of warranty. 
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Re: Traded in the SHO.......
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2020, 12:03:46 AM »
That is a real upgrade.  You get the ability to go fast still but have a lot more capability in your vehicle.  Do you plan on modifying and tuning it?  I would simply ask your dealer what you may want to do with it and see what they think in terms of warranty.

I would just Tune it. Keep it simple. From what I hear the 2.7 has more headroom meaning its tuned less from the factory than the 3.5.


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Re: Traded in the SHO.......
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2020, 12:04:12 AM »
Yeah, come hang out with me in the ST Section.

Yeah let me know how your is going.

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Re: Traded in the SHO.......
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2020, 12:08:53 AM »
I did read the entire post actually, and saw you "settled" on the Edge ST.

Anyhoo......

That's actually one of the vehicles my wife and I are considering on replacing our fully loaded w/every option possible, '09 Chrysler Aspen Limited that we recently sold privately.

We're also scoping out the Hyundai Palisade Limited as well (besides the Edge ST) so I'll be interested in hearing your experiences.

Thanks for the link. Looks sharp AF!

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Sorry about that. I figured most people would time out on a long post.

We did not drive the Pallisade. Too big for my wife. BUT Hyundai's Tech is almost perfect. The Santa Fe Limited hit everything except fun to drive.

She is sharp.

It will keep my wife happy as she barely drives the SHO. It is a WE car but I will drive it primarily when she isnt which means she wont take it to work. Its a parking garage and No door dings allowed.

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Re: Traded in the SHO.......
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2020, 12:11:38 AM »
I did read the entire post actually, and saw you "settled" on the Edge ST.

Anyhoo......

That's actually one of the vehicles my wife and I are considering on replacing our fully loaded w/every option possible, '09 Chrysler Aspen Limited that we recently sold privately.

We're also scoping out the Hyundai Palisade Limited as well (besides the Edge ST) so I'll be interested in hearing your experiences.

Thanks for the link. Looks sharp AF!

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Re: Traded in the SHO.......
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2020, 11:05:20 PM »
Finally Done. Had to go to a different dealer as the original dealer royally messed up some cosmetic complaints we had. 5 days and they couldnt get it done and what they did fix was just beyond unfair to a new car. So we said thanks but no thanks and got our deposit back.

Drove up to Bethlehem Pa today and they beat our lowest deal by $600 so we were happy.

Here she is. And she is not as Red as they show. Donno why the camera picks it up like Stop Sign red. Its more like a maroonish red with metal flake.


 

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