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MRT blues
« on: May 23, 2020, 07:40:38 pm »
So I put the MRTs on the MKS....I love how they look but the drone is unacceptable.

I hate is so much if I don't find a solution I'm gonna spend $1200 on an OEM SHO assembly.

First step is taking it to my exhaust guy and see if he has any ideas but I wanted to see if you guys had any recommendations.

I've seen some resonators I might be able to fit, I'm just unsure if they will fix the issue or create a different one.

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Re: MRT blues
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2020, 07:49:50 pm »
The rest of the exhaust stock?
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Re: MRT blues
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2020, 08:00:04 pm »
Man that sucks
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Re: MRT blues
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2020, 08:01:14 pm »
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Re: MRT blues
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2020, 08:53:27 pm »
So I put the MRTs on the MKS....I love how they look but the drone is unacceptable.

I hate is so much if I don't find a solution I'm gonna spend $1200 on an OEM SHO assembly.

First step is taking it to my exhaust guy and see if he has any ideas but I wanted to see if you guys had any recommendations.

I've seen some resonators I might be able to fit, I'm just unsure if they will fix the issue or create a different one.

Interesting... you are the first to complain about drone with the MRT AFAIK? Thats an expensive muffler setup to have a drone issue?  Is it possible to add the "U" extensions before the mufflers under the car to cut the drone?
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Re: MRT blues
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2020, 09:49:28 pm »
Man... It honestly doesn't really get that bad until you go catless downpipes imo. Trust me. I've been trying different setups... They pretty much all lead to disappointment... 😂 I'm currently trying a FOUR muffler setup... So far it's the best sounding setup yet. Eliminated rasp... Looking for a good sound is stretch so far... Peace and quiet vs performance it seems.... Magnaflows catback seems to get kudos for being a less offensive option.
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Re: MRT blues
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2020, 11:16:36 pm »
So I put the MRTs on the MKS....I love how they look but the drone is unacceptable.

I hate is so much if I don't find a solution I'm gonna spend $1200 on an OEM SHO assembly.

First step is taking it to my exhaust guy and see if he has any ideas but I wanted to see if you guys had any recommendations.

I've seen some resonators I might be able to fit, I'm just unsure if they will fix the issue or create a different one.

Interesting... you are the first to complain about drone with the MRT AFAIK? Thats an expensive muffler setup to have a drone issue?  Is it possible to add the "U" extensions before the mufflers under the car to cut the drone?
https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=9807.0

Well, a couple thoughts...I specifically questioned drone and seller indicated exterior noise which is also very true. That doesn't bother me but the drone from 1900-2400 is garbage. Pretty sure these were designed for GenV SHO which IMHO have much better insulation/fit/finish so maybe that is the issue. Plus MKS, not SHO. It could just be me being "extra sensitive" to certain things now. I'm not bashing the MRT, I just need to figure out a solution so I can drive the car again. 

I will inquire about "U" extensions.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2020, 11:40:07 pm by FoMoCoSHO »
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EBC Slotted w/RED Pads
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Re: MRT blues
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2020, 11:37:34 pm »
Man... It honestly doesn't really get that bad until you go catless downpipes imo. Trust me. I've been trying different setups... They pretty much all lead to disappointment... 😂 I'm currently trying a FOUR muffler setup... So far it's the best sounding setup yet. Eliminated rasp... Looking for a good sound is stretch so far... Peace and quiet vs performance it seems.... Magnaflows catback seems to get kudos for being a less offensive option.
Perhaps its not "that bad" to folks that haven't had brain injuries. In my situation it is unacceptable to the point I don't drive the car anymore.

I had suspected everything you alluded to regarding exhaust options was true but the MRT seemed like a reasonably safe option.

This will be my last experiment with non OEM exhausts, lol

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22PLE Glass Coating

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AJPTurbo FFV Calibration
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Full GEN V Brake Upgrade
EBC Slotted w/RED Pads
MRT Axle Back

Gone but not forgotten...
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Re: MRT blues
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2020, 01:37:40 am »
Man... It honestly doesn't really get that bad until you go catless downpipes imo. Trust me. I've been trying different setups... They pretty much all lead to disappointment... 😂 I'm currently trying a FOUR muffler setup... So far it's the best sounding setup yet. Eliminated rasp... Looking for a good sound is stretch so far... Peace and quiet vs performance it seems.... Magnaflows catback seems to get kudos for being a less offensive option.
Perhaps its not "that bad" to folks that haven't had brain injuries. In my situation it is unacceptable to the point I don't drive the car anymore.

I had suspected everything you alluded to regarding exhaust options was true but the MRT seemed like a reasonably safe option.

This will be my last experiment with non OEM exhausts, lol

If you get to the point of wanting to go OEM, I have my entire OEM exhaust from my SHO I would part with for a whole lot less than 1200. It is cut so it would fit in my trunk, but I'm sure it could be welded back together. I'm not too far north of you.
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Re: MRT blues
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2020, 01:45:01 am »
Man... It honestly doesn't really get that bad until you go catless downpipes imo. Trust me. I've been trying different setups... They pretty much all lead to disappointment... 😂 I'm currently trying a FOUR muffler setup... So far it's the best sounding setup yet. Eliminated rasp... Looking for a good sound is stretch so far... Peace and quiet vs performance it seems.... Magnaflows catback seems to get kudos for being a less offensive option.
Perhaps its not "that bad" to folks that haven't had brain injuries. In my situation it is unacceptable to the point I don't drive the car anymore.

I had suspected everything you alluded to regarding exhaust options was true but the MRT seemed like a reasonably safe option.

This will be my last experiment with non OEM exhausts, lol

If you get to the point of wanting to go OEM, I have my entire OEM exhaust from my SHO I would part with for a whole lot less than 1200. It is cut so it would fit in my trunk, but I'm sure it could be welded back together. I'm not too far north of you.
How many miles on it?

My MKS mufflers were looking pretty bad which helped me justify my terrible idea to myself...
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22PLE Glass Coating

2011 Lincoln MKS Ecoboost Package (Play)
AJPTurbo FFV Calibration
15 PSI, 27 Degrees, Full Rail
Full GEN V Brake Upgrade
EBC Slotted w/RED Pads
MRT Axle Back

Gone but not forgotten...
2013 Tuxedo Black non-PP SHO
2015 Bronze Fire PP SHO

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Re: MRT blues
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2020, 06:08:32 am »
Throw a large Magnaflow resonator on it. Your ears and head will thank you.
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Re: MRT blues
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2020, 07:41:45 am »
Sorry FoMoCoSHO... they are technically called J-Pipes... here is a picture..





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Re: MRT blues
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2020, 09:32:11 am »
Yup helmholtz resonator.  Tune to the specific frequency to be eliminated.
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Re: MRT blues
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2020, 10:49:12 am »
Man... It honestly doesn't really get that bad until you go catless downpipes imo. Trust me. I've been trying different setups... They pretty much all lead to disappointment... 😂 I'm currently trying a FOUR muffler setup... So far it's the best sounding setup yet. Eliminated rasp... Looking for a good sound is stretch so far... Peace and quiet vs performance it seems.... Magnaflows catback seems to get kudos for being a less offensive option.
Perhaps its not "that bad" to folks that haven't had brain injuries. In my situation it is unacceptable to the point I don't drive the car anymore.

I had suspected everything you alluded to regarding exhaust options was true but the MRT seemed like a reasonably safe option.

This will be my last experiment with non OEM exhausts, lol

If you get to the point of wanting to go OEM, I have my entire OEM exhaust from my SHO I would part with for a whole lot less than 1200. It is cut so it would fit in my trunk, but I'm sure it could be welded back together. I'm not too far north of you.
How many miles on it?

My MKS mufflers were looking pretty bad which helped me justify my terrible idea to myself...

Car had about 32K on it when I bought it, I did the exahaust within a month of getting car so maybe a thousand or so miles more. I can take some pictures today if you are interested. I have both cars' skid plates piled over the exhaust but would only take a minute or two to pull out and take some pics.
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Re: MRT blues
« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2020, 09:25:36 pm »

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=9807.0

Well, a couple thoughts...I specifically questioned drone and seller indicated exterior noise which is also very true. That doesn't bother me but the drone from 1900-2400 is garbage. Pretty sure these were designed for GenV SHO which IMHO have much better insulation/fit/finish so maybe that is the issue. Plus MKS, not SHO. It could just be me being "extra sensitive" to certain things now. I'm not bashing the MRT, I just need to figure out a solution so I can drive the car again. 

I will inquire about "U" extensions.


I remember you and I talking about that MRT a while back and the noise difference of the SHO and MKS. I am curious what the insulation or noise deadening difference is between the models or even the difference in generations. You would think the difference in models would be the same or even the MKS being a little more quiet.
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