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Driveline swap from 15 sho into 10 sho??

Started by Spyder3000gtvr4, June 18, 2018, 06:42:00 PM

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Spyder3000gtvr4

June 18, 2018, 06:42:00 PM
Looking to finally get into my Sho.
So my turbos are shot on my 2010 sho and looked into oem replacements due to mileage (150k) about 900-1000$ I found an Sho engine/trans from a 2015 sho for 2k says it has oil cooler so pp perhaps?!? It doesn't have the transfer case. I was considering dropping this into my Sho non pp I believe. Now from my research on the Sho forum I've found that I can use the engine by swapping 2 sensors from my motor and I'm good. Not sure about the trans and will my 2010 tcase bolt into the 15 trans.
Now this is really the route I'd prefer to go because 40k beats 150k. Then it leaves me with my engine that I can rebuild, put the atp turbos on. Rebuild the trans and use this driveline in my midengine build all without sacrificing a really nice sho even thought that's the entire reason I purchased this car.
I'm not sure if this is the right section to post if not my apologies
Kik: Spyder3000gtvr4

Got my Sho deciding to make it a DD or use it for my tube chassis build :)

bamsho

#1
June 19, 2018, 01:52:33 AM
Think you need to use your flexplate not the one new motor.  Also if this is out of a PP car and yours is a non PP car, that trans WILL NOT WORK!.  There are different final drives for a PP and nonPP cars.
2013 white Gen 5.  Gearhead Intercooler, Turbosmart wastegate actuators, Alky Controls meth kit, Livernois catted downpipes,  Livernois Corsa cat back black etched tips.  2016 True Street Champion.

Spyder3000gtvr4

#2
June 19, 2018, 07:39:44 AM
Ok so if it is indeed the pp car and mine is not then I would need the rear diff as well. So then I'm not sure if the tcase would be the same. I'd assume the driveshaft and axles would all be the same.
Kik: Spyder3000gtvr4

Got my Sho deciding to make it a DD or use it for my tube chassis build :)

bamsho

#3
June 19, 2018, 07:51:05 AM
You are correct, you would need the rear out of the donor car.
2013 white Gen 5.  Gearhead Intercooler, Turbosmart wastegate actuators, Alky Controls meth kit, Livernois catted downpipes,  Livernois Corsa cat back black etched tips.  2016 True Street Champion.

SHOdded

#4
June 19, 2018, 07:51:48 AM Last Edit: June 19, 2018, 08:02:47 AM by SHOdded
TBH, I would use VINs from a nonPP SHO and a PP SHO to compare the parts differences for the transmission and axles etc.  I have no reason to believe the PTU (internally)/axles are any different, but yes, the transmission itself is different.  You could flash in the appropriate as-built data to the PCM, but I assume a 2010-12 as-built would be good enough, you have to find the right files for it.  Also, regardless of what drivetrain you are putting in, you will need to update the solenoid body strategy in the PCM so it shifts correctly, a minor detail in the scheme of things, but needs doing.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

SHOdded

#5
June 19, 2018, 08:11:39 AM Last Edit: June 19, 2018, 08:13:56 AM by SHOdded
Front axles - same for PP/non-PP for 2015
Ford DG1Z-3B436-A    
DG1Z-3B436-A
Shaft And Universal Joint Asy
Shaft - Front Axle
Location:   Passenger Side
Base Number:   3B436
Callout Name:   3B436
Replaced by:   DG1Z-3B436-E
$151.95 $91.93

Ford DG1Z-3B437-A    
DG1Z-3B437-A
Shaft And Universal Joint Asy
Shaft - Front Axle
Location:   Driver Side
Base Number:   3B437
Callout Name:   3B437
Replaced by:   DG1Z-3B437-F
$153.87 $95.63

Same Rear Axles
Ford 8A8Z-4K138-A    
8A8Z-4K138-A
Shaft Assy
Location:   Passenger Side
Base Number:   4K138
Callout Name:   4K138
$280.17$193.32

Ford 8A8Z-4K139-A    
8A8Z-4K139-A
Shaft Assy - Rear Axle
Location:   Driver Side
Base Number:   4K138
Callout Name:   4K138
$280.17 $193.32

PTU is different of course
Ford DG1Z-7251-D    
DG1Z-7251-D
Power Take Off Assy
Fit Note:   SHO Package 1
Base Number:   7251
Callout Name:   7251
Replaced by:   DG1Z-7251-F
$922.43 $739.52

Ford DT4Z-7251-E    
DT4Z-7251-E
Power Take Off Assy
Fit Note:   Less Version Packages
Callout Name:   7251
Replaced by:   DT4Z-7251-G
$748.94 $559.83

Transmission Assembly
Ford AA5Z-7000-GRM    
AA5Z-7000-GRM
Automatic Transmission Assy
Remanufactured
Fit Note:   2.77 Ratio
Base Number:   7000
Callout Name:   7000
--$3306.46

Ford DA5Z-7000-L    
DA5Z-7000-L
Automatic Transmission Assy
Note: For Warranty Repairs - Technical Service Hotline Prior Approval May Be Required For This Part
Fit Note:   2.77 Ratio
Base Number:   DA5Z-7000-L
Callout Name:   7000
-- $4731.70

Ford DA5Z-7000-M    
DA5Z-7000-M
Automatic Transmission Assy
Note: For Warranty Repairs - Technical Service Hotline Prior Approval May Be Required For This Part
Fit Note:   3.16 Ratio
Base Number:   DA5Z-7000-M
Callout Name:   7000
--$3396.60
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Spyder3000gtvr4

#6
June 19, 2018, 08:45:52 AM
thank you for all that information. Ive Found another driveline waiting to hear back from the guy about specifics and will post on here. Also found somebody with oem turbos with 50k for a very very reasonable price.... so rather tempted to just grab those. To many decisions wish this car wasn't so nice it looks like it's turning into my spare daily driver
Kik: Spyder3000gtvr4

Got my Sho deciding to make it a DD or use it for my tube chassis build :)

SHOdded

#7
June 19, 2018, 08:53:44 AM
As long as you do actually drive it!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Spyder3000gtvr4

#8
June 25, 2018, 07:36:10 PM
Well the guy with the turbos hasn't answered in days. The seller on eBay has a 2013 driveline with no transfercase. It has 35k on it vin 1FAHP2KT3DG139317. The car I plan on putting it into is 1FAHP2KT4AG129732.
Kik: Spyder3000gtvr4

Got my Sho deciding to make it a DD or use it for my tube chassis build :)

Spyder3000gtvr4

#9
June 27, 2018, 09:43:21 PM
What do you guys use to look up the vins? I want to confirm these are compatible
Kik: Spyder3000gtvr4

Got my Sho deciding to make it a DD or use it for my tube chassis build :)

SHOdded

#10
June 28, 2018, 06:51:14 AM
Not sure what criteria you will use to assure compatibility.  BUT, I believe you can register on www.etis.ford.com and then look up the VINs.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Spyder3000gtvr4

#11
June 28, 2018, 09:04:54 PM
I want to confirm there both non pp
Kik: Spyder3000gtvr4

Got my Sho deciding to make it a DD or use it for my tube chassis build :)
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