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Title: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 12, 2016, 05:06:06 PM
Hello EcoBoostPerformanceForum.com members. We are manufacture of water methanol injection systems. We have ten years of experience in the water methanol injection industry servicing both street and race industry with water methanol injection systems, parts and service. We've recently established the brand ProMeth.com and looking to get the name out and interact with new markets. With a background in aviation mechanics, drag racing, welding and fabrication we've set out to bring a higher quality of water methanol injection systems and components to the industry. We are in the process of releasing several new progressive methanol injection controllers as well as direct port packages and hose systems. BE sure to check us out as new products and information is being added every week to the website.

Rodney
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on October 12, 2016, 06:56:03 PM
Hi Rodney! Welcome to EBPF!

Best wishes to you in your new endeavor!
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: J-Will on October 12, 2016, 07:00:48 PM
Welcome, thanks for joining.

Please keep us updated on the controllers and especially the direct port kit.

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Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: SHOdded on October 12, 2016, 07:35:59 PM
Welcome!
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: J-Will on October 12, 2016, 08:08:14 PM
By chance, are you looking to build a tank for the SHO engine bay? Preferably one with the pump attached to it.

The direct port for the SHO looks great. Are they any test results?


Last- who makes your pump, and what is the warranty on them? This community has learned (the hard way) that over time meth corrodes the pump requiring a replacement.

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Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: SHOurpp on October 12, 2016, 08:24:02 PM
welcome!
website in Sig doesn't work
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: Gray Brick on October 13, 2016, 12:10:59 AM
I have been buying pumps, nozzles, and other parts from Rodney @ ProMeth.

I would recommend him in a heartbeat!!!!  He really knows his stuff. :)
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: RichieRich1042 on October 13, 2016, 08:11:35 AM
Welcome to EBPF from Brooklyn, NY! I also have to agree that the link in the sig doesn't work and when I used the google, I think I found your site but wasn't sure since there weren't much info on the products themselves or photos.  Looking forward to seeing where it goes!
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: ZSHO on October 13, 2016, 10:09:36 AM
Welcome aboard the E.B.P.F and your link on your sig does not work and after a quick search did find this .http://prometh.com/ (http://prometh.com/) and due update your signature with the correct link and thanks for joining.  Z
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: J-Will on October 13, 2016, 10:28:02 AM
with the distro block and lines from each port collected at the top of the intake manifold, will the engine cover fit?
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: scoles92 on October 13, 2016, 11:07:27 AM
welcome! I'm sure you guys will be a lot more reasonable to work with than Snow Performance has proven to be!!
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: AnotherGreenFusion on October 13, 2016, 11:39:26 AM
Very nice, love to see more options here! Welcome!
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 13, 2016, 12:52:41 PM
Very nice, love to see more options here! Welcome!

Thank you.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 13, 2016, 01:00:41 PM
Welcome to EBPF from Brooklyn, NY! I also have to agree that the link in the sig doesn't work and when I used the google, I think I found your site but wasn't sure since there weren't much info on the products themselves or photos.  Looking forward to seeing where it goes!

System images are being shot in the next few days and will be uploaded. Our parts category is full of product and may of the various unique products we manufacture that you won't find from other water methanol injection companies.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 13, 2016, 01:01:16 PM
Hi Rodney! Welcome to EBPF!

Best wishes to you in your new endeavor!

Thank you.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 13, 2016, 01:26:20 PM
By chance, are you looking to build a tank for the SHO engine bay? Preferably one with the pump attached to it.

The direct port for the SHO looks great. Are they any test results?


Last- who makes your pump, and what is the warranty on them? This community has learned (the hard way) that over time meth corrodes the pump requiring a replacement.

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Unfortunately not. The tooling is very expensive and the market is to small for the SHO. The demand just isn't there for us like the Mustang which is next.

Waiting on customers to do before and after testing. Direct port is the only fix for distribution problems. You can't mount a single nozzle out in front of the throttle body or worse mount nozzle in the throttle body spacers and expect the injection to flow evenly to every cylinder. Unfortunately, it just doesn't work out that way. The manifolds were never designed for wet flow. The injection wants to go to the rear of the intake manifold. Look at the feedback and results on the auxiliary fuel injector systems which placed two fuel injectors in a throttle body spacer vs the port injection systems. The throttle body systems had sever distribution problems. Port injection is the only way to precisely meter how much fluid water meth is sprayed into each cylinder. This is why we have half sizes down in the lower range of nozzle size options we offer. We've been doing direct port injection for years and not every cylinder needs the same amount. When we have cylinders that are running hotter than other we can adjust accordingly through our jetting. We carry 23 sizes of nozzles.

Three year warranty of pumps when with purchase of system. 1 year warranty of parts.

http://prometh.com/pages/warranty-policy (http://prometh.com/pages/warranty-policy)

Aquatic makes our pumps. We are the only company using the 1.5 amp motors as well. We did all the testing and have been using them now for the past two years. Our pumps provide 30% more flow over the competitors 10-11 amps motors. The rpm of the motor is one thing. We've also had Aquatic perform other modifications to get more flow. We work with a lot of high horsepower applications which were requiring two pumps. We can now support 1100-1200 horsepower at the tires with one of our pumps
 
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 13, 2016, 01:35:24 PM
welcome!
website in Sig doesn't work

Signature fixed. Thank you for the heads up.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: J-Will on October 13, 2016, 01:40:41 PM
Thanks for answering my questions and providing more insight into your business.

I am very excited to have you as a member on this board.

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Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 13, 2016, 02:23:40 PM
welcome! I'm sure you guys will be a lot more reasonable to work with than Snow Performance has proven to be!!


Our business model is a bit different. We do a lot of custom work and work more closely with our customers. We offer custom manifold installations, welding, fabrication, build custom hoses in house , both hardline and braided hose assemblies, that you won't get from our competitors. We are happy doing a few custom systems each day. Our competitors are doing 20-50 systems a day. We are a much smaller company.  Hose systems is an area that we are currently working on improving. For example, the stainless steel flared hard lines is a much higher quality hose system than the push connect fittings with nylon. The cost isn't that much more than doing direct port in plastic nylon hoses so why wouldn't you go stainless.  It last a lifetime, eliminates phone calls and replacement fittings and looks so much better. 

Another new product we've been working with for the past 6 months is your Sniper injection systems. This was developed working with our non-intercooler outlaw drag racers and grudge cars. We can move a ton of methanol in a confined area, saturating the air charge, lots of initial contact area, great for high boost non-intercooler applications.

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1020/2601/files/sniper_2_methanol_injection_29.jpg?3687772114974081041)

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1020/2601/files/sniper_1_multiple.jpg?5384047472742206387)

We are also the worlds first and only company to offer pumpless water methanol injection systems. I designed and developed two packages which we use on our nitrous engines and for our high horsepower (1500-3000+ horsepower) turbo and supercharged cars.


(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1020/2601/products/pumpless_methanol_injection_sniper1_1_2c7b6f5c-3533-4a68-931a-c47d3b658e6f_1024x1024.jpg?v=1471575552)

Once we have our controllers in stock we will be launching a lot of new system packages and options as well.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 13, 2016, 02:25:09 PM
I have been buying pumps, nozzles, and other parts from Rodney @ ProMeth.

I would recommend him in a heartbeat!!!!  He really knows his stuff. :)

Thanks for the comment and support!!
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: Linemonkey on October 14, 2016, 07:43:23 AM
Great looking products. How difficult is the installation of your direct port/7th injector system, on the SHO? Is it necessary to remove the intake? I'm no novice, at wrenching, but not a pro, either lol. Thanks

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Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: EcoPowerParts on October 14, 2016, 09:12:11 AM
Welcome, thanks for joining and FYI you need something for my other vehicle - '11 CTS-V :)
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: SHOurpp on October 14, 2016, 01:47:24 PM
what kind of under hood tank do you guys have for the 4th gen sho?
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 14, 2016, 03:59:40 PM
Great looking products. How difficult is the installation of your direct port/7th injector system, on the SHO? Is it necessary to remove the intake? I'm no novice, at wrenching, but not a pro, either lol. Thanks

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For the Sho you need to remove the intake and mill the back side flat on the intake runners. To make this go easier I have intake manifolds here that are already machined and with the injection installed ready to bolt on. There is a core charge of $250 which we credit you back if you send you manifold back into us.  If you want the manifold powder coated this is also something we can do. Manifold complete with injection installed is $499.99 shipped

Let me know if you have any other questions or how I can help.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 14, 2016, 04:02:19 PM
what kind of under hood tank do you guys have for the 4th gen sho?

This is the least expensive tank we carry for under the hood. Its three quarts and comes with brass vent and sight tube which you can install on either side of the tank. Here's a link to all the tanks we carry and manufacture.

https://prometh.com/collections/tanks

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1020/2601/products/standard_3_quart_2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1455407515)
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 14, 2016, 04:03:26 PM
what kind of under hood tank do you guys have for the 4th gen sho?

I just had a request for this very thing. I need the upper lid to the supercharger to make a kit.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: Rockstar04 on October 14, 2016, 04:17:46 PM
That direct port setup is very nice looking! (https://prometh.com/collections/nozzles-nozzles-packages/products/ford-sho-taurus-ecoboost-direct-port?variant=29680864387)

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1020/2601/products/ford_taurus_ecoboost_methanol_direct_port_4_1024x1024.jpg?v=1475111695)
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 14, 2016, 05:08:29 PM
That direct port setup is very nice looking! (https://prometh.com/collections/nozzles-nozzles-packages/products/ford-sho-taurus-ecoboost-direct-port?variant=29680864387)

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1020/2601/products/ford_taurus_ecoboost_methanol_direct_port_4_1024x1024.jpg?v=1475111695)

Thank you. You can see pictures of it installed on our instagram page. The first layout had fitment issues and required doing the lines differently. This fits with out any issues. This system will last a life time and never have the issues like the plastic hoses and push connect fittings.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: SHOurpp on October 16, 2016, 03:02:32 PM
what kind of under hood tank do you guys have for the 4th gen sho?

I just had a request for this very thing. I need the upper lid to the supercharger to make a kit.
where exactly does it go?
have a picture installed?
thanks
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: Vortech347 on October 16, 2016, 10:22:59 PM
I've been trying to tell people this for years.... Glad to see a vendor talking right on theory rather than just trying to make money.  DIRECT INJECTION FOR THE WIN!!!



Waiting on customers to do before and after testing. Direct port is the only fix for distribution problems. You can't mount a single nozzle out in front of the throttle body or worse mount nozzle in the throttle body spacers and expect the injection to flow evenly to every cylinder. Unfortunately, it just doesn't work out that way. The manifolds were never designed for wet flow. The injection wants to go to the rear of the intake manifold. Look at the feedback and results on the auxiliary fuel injector systems which placed two fuel injectors in a throttle body spacer vs the port injection systems. The throttle body systems had sever distribution problems. Port injection is the only way to precisely meter how much fluid water meth is sprayed into each cylinder. This is why we have half sizes down in the lower range of nozzle size options we offer. We've been doing direct port injection for years and not every cylinder needs the same amount. When we have cylinders that are running hotter than other we can adjust accordingly through our jetting. We carry 23 sizes of nozzles.

Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: EcoPowerParts on October 16, 2016, 10:59:53 PM
Need another core intake? I have one on my shelf I don' tneed.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 19, 2016, 03:52:49 PM
Need another core intake? I have one on my shelf I don' tneed.

I can't pick it up right now but in a few weeks ill take it. I have three manifolds that we are working with right now. I'd like to have another one.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 19, 2016, 03:55:22 PM
I've been trying to tell people this for years.... Glad to see a vendor talking right on theory rather than just trying to make money.  DIRECT INJECTION FOR THE WIN!!!



Waiting on customers to do before and after testing. Direct port is the only fix for distribution problems. You can't mount a single nozzle out in front of the throttle body or worse mount nozzle in the throttle body spacers and expect the injection to flow evenly to every cylinder. Unfortunately, it just doesn't work out that way. The manifolds were never designed for wet flow. The injection wants to go to the rear of the intake manifold. Look at the feedback and results on the auxiliary fuel injector systems which placed two fuel injectors in a throttle body spacer vs the port injection systems. The throttle body systems had sever distribution problems. Port injection is the only way to precisely meter how much fluid water meth is sprayed into each cylinder. This is why we have half sizes down in the lower range of nozzle size options we offer. We've been doing direct port injection for years and not every cylinder needs the same amount. When we have cylinders that are running hotter than other we can adjust accordingly through our jetting. We carry 23 sizes of nozzles.


We are finished using push connects for direct port systems in general. This is the best way to do it and a lot safer when using flammable fluids. Nylon hose is to much of a liability. We are finishing up snakes for the Chevrolet market which will go up on the website soon as well as others.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 19, 2016, 04:00:49 PM
what kind of under hood tank do you guys have for the 4th gen sho?

I just had a request for this very thing. I need the upper lid to the supercharger to make a kit.
where exactly does it go?
have a picture installed?
thanks

We have pictures of the F150 installed on our Instgram page along with a lot of other pictures showing who we work with and other products we make.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 19, 2016, 04:18:01 PM
what kind of under hood tank do you guys have for the 4th gen sho?

I just had a request for this very thing. I need the upper lid to the supercharger to make a kit.
where exactly does it go?
have a picture installed?
thanks

As for tank. Everyone is using our trunk mount three gallon tank or washer fluid tank to save money.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on October 19, 2016, 05:26:38 PM
You guys don't happen to design intercoolers do you?

We really need an efficient FMIC.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: midnightSun on October 19, 2016, 11:33:49 PM
DIRECT PORT so this looks to be injecting meth in all cyls at the sometime?
What is the advantage of this?
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: J-Will on October 20, 2016, 06:27:02 AM
DIRECT PORT so this looks to be injecting meth in all cyls at the sometime?
What is the advantage of this?
Same as the fuel system- you use less water/meth. It also makes sure all cylinders recieve w/m, increasing its capability to clean and mix with fuel. Direct port does not cool air temps as well (there is not enough time before combustion) so a 7th nozzle is sometimes used pre-TB to help cool the air.

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Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: SHOurpp on October 20, 2016, 09:04:11 PM
i am looking for a meth/water tank that fits under the hood of a sho
so you have any or kits?
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: WickedSHO on October 22, 2016, 12:33:26 PM
Do you have any kits exclusive for the SHO or is it one of your universal kits?
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: Linemonkey on October 22, 2016, 07:43:34 PM
I'm leaning, heavily, toward this setup. I'm curious, since the nozzles are sold separately, and are available in so many sizes, how many changes are necessary before a system is typically dialed in?

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Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: J-Will on October 22, 2016, 08:01:44 PM
I'm most interested in your controller options.

Can it control multiple lines? One for the direct port setup, and one line for the 7th nozzle (not connected to the distro block of the direct port)

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Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 23, 2016, 04:06:20 PM
You guys don't happen to design intercoolers do you?

We really need an efficient FMIC.

No, we do not design intercoolers. Just water methanol injection systems and components. There are plenty of aftermarket intercoolers being made for the Ecoboost engines.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 23, 2016, 04:14:21 PM
DIRECT PORT so this looks to be injecting meth in all cyls at the sometime?
What is the advantage of this?
In short. Direct port allows you the precisely control how much water methanol is delivered into each cylinder. Modern day EFI intake manifolds were not designed for wet flow. Many times people are having serious water methanol distribution issues when nozzles are placed before the throttle body or in throttle body spacers. Everyday I have at least one person call describing distribution issues and asking for us to do a custom direct port install on their manifold to fix this.

Let me know if you have any other questions or how I can help. Rodney

Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 23, 2016, 04:23:39 PM
I'm leaning, heavily, toward this setup. I'm curious, since the nozzles are sold separately, and are available in so many sizes, how many changes are necessary before a system is typically dialed in?

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Don't worry about the jetting. Thats my job and I will set it up correct just as you need it. At the time of your order we will have you help us fill out our vehicle spec sheet. Jetting will be based off this information as well as the type of fluid you are going to run and your location. Guys in dry areas and low water grains need more jetting than those in humid areas such as florida. Additionally, I will include two additional nozzles that will be a half size larger for free when you order one of our direct port kits with nozzles. If you find you need a little more in one or two cylinders you will already have the nozzles available.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 23, 2016, 04:27:18 PM
i am looking for a meth/water tank that fits under the hood of a sho
so you have any or kits?

I have these in stock. Here's a link to our page.

http://prometh.com/collections/tanks/products/example-product-02?variant=10679958659 (http://prometh.com/collections/tanks/products/example-product-02?variant=10679958659)

Features Include:

3 Quart
Brass vent
Level sight gauge
Plastic screw on cap
Mounting hardware
Blow molded construction
Made from high density polyethylene
Will not stain or discolor as white tanks
100% methanol compatible
Dimensions: 8.75" tall x 8.75" wide 4.25" deep

Special Notes:

Does not include tank outlet fitting shown in picture.
Tank outlet fitting is provided as an option.
Sight level gauge is included but not installed.
Instruction for installing sight level gauge provided.

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1020/2601/products/standard_3_quart_1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1455407515)
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1020/2601/products/standard_3_quart_2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1455407515)
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on October 23, 2016, 04:29:32 PM
You guys don't happen to design intercoolers do you?

We really need an efficient FMIC.

No, we do not design intercoolers. Just water methanol injection systems and components. There are plenty of aftermarket intercoolers being made for the Ecoboost engines.
Not for the transverse 3.5....

If you happen to know of someone, please let us know!
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 23, 2016, 04:29:59 PM
I'm most interested in your controller options.

Can it control multiple lines? One for the direct port setup, and one line for the 7th nozzle (not connected to the distro block of the direct port)

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We are working on a two stage controller so you can open a solenoid at a separate point.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: PROMETH on October 23, 2016, 04:32:14 PM
You guys don't happen to design intercoolers do you?

We really need an efficient FMIC.

No, we do not design intercoolers. Just water methanol injection systems and components. There are plenty of aftermarket intercoolers being made for the Ecoboost engines.

I wouldn't know of anyone. If its not available you can always build an intercooler. Many of the race cars I work with build the intercooler as they need it.
Not for the transverse 3.5....

If you happen to know of someone, please let us know!
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: midnightSun on October 25, 2016, 01:30:36 AM
DIRECT PORT so this looks to be injecting meth in all cyls at the sometime?
What is the advantage of this?
In short. Direct port allows you the precisely control how much water methanol is delivered into each cylinder.

These injectors don't seem to be controlled individually. So i'm asking why this is beneficial? It would seem one is using 5x the necessary meth. Soo do you have plans to use Electronic Fuel injection?
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: Frozen Blue on October 25, 2016, 05:53:02 AM
It ensures even distribution into all cylinders. This way the front cylinders won't receive more than the cylinders at the rear of the intake manifold. Uneven flow may or may not be an issue. We have no idea unless someone tests a transverse 3.5 intake manifold.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: J-Will on October 25, 2016, 06:34:45 AM
DIRECT PORT so this looks to be injecting meth in all cyls at the sometime?
What is the advantage of this?
In short. Direct port allows you the precisely control how much water methanol is delivered into each cylinder.

These injectors don't seem to be controlled individually. So i'm asking why this is beneficial? It would seem one is using 5x the necessary meth. Soo do you have plans to use Electronic Fuel injection?
Different size injectors help regulate an even spray. You actually use less meth, the injectors are much smaller

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Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: SHOurpp on October 25, 2016, 12:10:43 PM
nice tank .not sure where it would fit at
hopefully someone has location pictures or install tips to move that along.
i am looking for a meth/water tank that fits under the hood of a sho
so you have any or kits?

I have these in stock. Here's a link to our page.

http://prometh.com/collections/tanks/products/example-product-02?variant=10679958659 (http://prometh.com/collections/tanks/products/example-product-02?variant=10679958659)

Features Include:

3 Quart
Brass vent
Level sight gauge
Plastic screw on cap
Mounting hardware
Blow molded construction
Made from high density polyethylene
Will not stain or discolor as white tanks
100% methanol compatible
Dimensions: 8.75" tall x 8.75" wide 4.25" deep

Special Notes:

Does not include tank outlet fitting shown in picture.
Tank outlet fitting is provided as an option.
Sight level gauge is included but not installed.
Instruction for installing sight level gauge provided.

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1020/2601/products/standard_3_quart_1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1455407515)
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1020/2601/products/standard_3_quart_2_1024x1024.jpg?v=1455407515)
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: glock-coma on October 25, 2016, 12:21:17 PM
I'm guessing with the mdesign intake setup there would be enough room next to it to mount this tank. You would just need to fab a bracket.
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161025/d7b60865e044e4e563ab8334ac1124ff.png)
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: J-Will on October 25, 2016, 02:20:38 PM
I'm guessing with the mdesign intake setup there would be enough room next to it to mount this tank. You would just need to fab a bracket.
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Think the battery is almost 9" tall? Can't mount that tank sideways, the cap has to be on top. Our height requirement is the same as the battery

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Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: SHOdded on October 25, 2016, 02:49:24 PM
The battery is spec'd at 7.63 inches in height
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: J-Will on October 25, 2016, 03:42:47 PM
The battery is spec'd at 7.63 inches in height

So close!  I dont think that tank will work.  I'm all for being wrong though.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: glock-coma on October 25, 2016, 04:12:17 PM
From what I remember the bottom of the stock air box sits lower than the battery tray.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: hawkeye93 on December 28, 2016, 02:50:37 PM
Had a nice phone conversation with Rodney, the owner of ProMeth (formerly Alcohol Injection Systems) today.  Super nice guy, very informative & helpful.  And thanks to Renee for helping with my order.  I ordered a 3 gallon tank for my upcoming meth installation.  Plan to do something similar to the trunk install on Alky's Facebook page.  With meth & AJP's EBC brakes, I'm getting excited for next track season!
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: SHOdded on December 28, 2016, 04:05:54 PM
Sweet!
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: J-Will on February 03, 2017, 07:30:31 PM
Does ProMeth sell controllers yet?

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Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: j1980mac on May 09, 2017, 01:54:00 AM
what kind of under hood tank do you guys have for the 4th gen sho?

I just had a request for this very thing. I need the upper lid to the supercharger to make a kit.
where exactly does it go?
have a picture installed?
thanks

As for tank. Everyone is using our trunk mount three gallon tank or washer fluid tank to save money.

Couldn't one just use the windshield washer fluid reservoir? 
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: J-Will on May 09, 2017, 05:20:00 AM
what kind of under hood tank do you guys have for the 4th gen sho?

I just had a request for this very thing. I need the upper lid to the supercharger to make a kit.
where exactly does it go?
have a picture installed?
thanks

As for tank. Everyone is using our trunk mount three gallon tank or washer fluid tank to save money.

Couldn't one just use the windshield washer fluid reservoir?
Yes.

But that is not a solution for everyone

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Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: TopherSho on May 09, 2017, 09:41:58 AM
But your windshield would be SOOO clean ...
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: j1980mac on May 09, 2017, 11:20:39 AM
what kind of under hood tank do you guys have for the 4th gen sho?

I just had a request for this very thing. I need the upper lid to the supercharger to make a kit.
where exactly does it go?
have a picture installed?
thanks

As for tank. Everyone is using our trunk mount three gallon tank or washer fluid tank to save money.

Couldn't one just use the windshield washer fluid reservoir?
Yes.

But that is not a solution for everyone

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Gotcha.

I'm a total noob, so forgive me, but what are the pros and cons of using the windshield washer reservoir? Seems to make sense. When you are low, you get an indicator light. Yes, the boostjuice may be a bit more costly than the blue washer fluid, but for convenience sake, this seems like a winner to me?
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: glock-coma on May 09, 2017, 11:27:15 AM
Pump reliability for one, if your pump fails while you're tune is expecting it to be working that's no Bueno.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: j1980mac on May 09, 2017, 12:37:24 PM
Pump reliability for one, if your pump fails while you're tune is expecting it to be working that's no Bueno.

So what's the worst thing that could happen if a pump fails?
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: glock-coma on May 09, 2017, 12:38:21 PM
Pump reliability for one, if your pump fails while you're tune is expecting it to be working that's no Bueno.

So what's the worst thing that could happen if a pump fails?
Kaboom...
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: j1980mac on May 09, 2017, 01:14:22 PM
Pump reliability for one, if your pump fails while you're tune is expecting it to be working that's no Bueno.

So what's the worst thing that could happen if a pump fails?
Kaboom...

Wow WMI seems like too much trouble.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: glock-coma on May 09, 2017, 01:16:13 PM
If done properly it's not.
Just do your homework on tuners reliability and pump reliability.
As long as the safeguards are not removed in the tune
its relatively safe.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: J-Will on May 09, 2017, 01:52:31 PM
what kind of under hood tank do you guys have for the 4th gen sho?

I just had a request for this very thing. I need the upper lid to the supercharger to make a kit.
where exactly does it go?
have a picture installed?
thanks

As for tank. Everyone is using our trunk mount three gallon tank or washer fluid tank to save money.

Couldn't one just use the windshield washer fluid reservoir?
Yes.

But that is not a solution for everyone

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Gotcha.

I'm a total noob, so forgive me, but what are the pros and cons of using the windshield washer reservoir? Seems to make sense. When you are low, you get an indicator light. Yes, the boostjuice may be a bit more costly than the blue washer fluid, but for convenience sake, this seems like a winner to me?

Just the common sense aspects really, nothing major:
you have to drill/ tap into the reservoir
expensive windshield cleaning fluid
some places might top off your reservoir with non-meth fluid so you'd have that added concern

Having a separate tank afford you the flexibility of a completely separate system
It also affords you the responsibility of a completely separate system
You have to figure out where a tank and plumbing go
can return to stock easier
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: obi.sean_kenobi on November 02, 2018, 11:56:04 AM
DO NOT BUY ANY PROMETH PRODUCTS!! I recently bought a methanol tank from them and it arrived defective. The holes drilled for the injection lines were bored out incorrectly. The company blamed their vendor that they didn't fill in the tank properly and claim they air leak test them. The tank leaked 4 gallons of fluid into my trunk. The company customer service is none existent. They played games and said my messages were going to spam and ultimately even refused to provide a replacement tank. I have cancelled the charge with my credit card provider. This company is a joke and their products are cheap at best and likely defective.
Title: Re: ProMeth Says Hello - Manufacture of Ecoboost Water Methanol Injection Systems
Post by: ZSHO on November 02, 2018, 12:22:49 PM
DO NOT BUY ANY PROMETH PRODUCTS!! I recently bought a methanol tank from them and it arrived defective. The holes drilled for the injection lines were bored out incorrectly. The company blamed their vendor that they didn't fill in the tank properly and claim they air leak test them. The tank leaked 4 gallons of fluid into my trunk. The company customer service is none existent. They played games and said my messages were going to spam and ultimately even refused to provide a replacement tank. I have cancelled the charge with my credit card provider. This company is a joke and their products are cheap at best and likely defective.
Since it being your first post and starting off your forum presence Discounting a vendors credibility is baseless IMO until proven otherwise!

Due setup an Intro @ your earliest convenience and appreciate your cooperation on the topic on hand.  Z

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