OK, these times will not impress you tuned SHO guys but I think it is safe to say that I have the fastest 2017 Lincoln Continental at the moment. DA was over 2500 and my IAT2 was 150 at the start of the runs and 185 at the end. Better, cooler air would have helped! AJP turbo may have a few more tricks up his sleeve, too.
Took down a Jeep SRT8.
https://youtu.be/xG2bzHgjy4E (https://youtu.be/xG2bzHgjy4E)
Well done! specially given the DA and IAT temps!
Nice!!! Those are dang fast runs, I bet a few were surprised.
not bad
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The good news is that Brad says my fuel pump can handle lots of E85. I might have to have him build me a race tune. :drive:
Another thing: This car hooks like you wouldn't believe. The torque vectoring rear axle allows more power going to the rear than my old MKS.
All good news!
Quote from: Brucelinc on July 12, 2017, 11:57:50 PM
OK, these times will not impress you tuned SHO guys but I think it is safe to say that I have the fastest 2017 Lincoln Continental at the moment. DA was over 2500 and my IAT2 was 150 at the start of the runs and 185 at the end. Better, cooler air would have helped! AJP turbo may have a few more tricks up his sleeve, too.
Took down a Jeep SRT8.
https://youtu.be/xG2bzHgjy4E (https://youtu.be/xG2bzHgjy4E)
Given the IAT2 you are faster than my tuned sho :( .. by best ''track run'' has been 13.08 with about a 120 iat start so your runs are solid..
Stupid question. But since it was mentioned above. Does the SHO Vector? Or is it just a normal AWD system.
The SHO does not vector.
Wow Bruce! Congrats on the new ride and a crazy/huge congrats on the new rides time slips. That thing is much faster than I was thinking it would be.
I know this sounds crazy, but I'm wondering if that thing has an 11.99 in it with a good ethanol tune.
2013+ has software torque vectoring....
My understanding is that 2013+ SHOs have brake-based torque vectoring. When pushing the car through corners at higher speeds, it will apply some braking to the inside wheel to help eliminate understeer. It is further my understanding that the 2013+ models can send more torque to the rear than 2010-2012 models.
The Continental Dynamic Torque Vectoring is a bit different and works like the system in the Focus RS. It has clutch packs on each side of the RDU to distribute torque to the appropriate wheel (or both). This system is supposedly capable of sending up to 100% of torque to the rear and up to 100% of torque to either rear wheel.
The real purpose of all this was to make front wheel drive cars handle more like rear drive - eliminating the tendency to understeer. The benefit to us who like to drag race is better off the line traction. From my experience so far, I think it would take a hellacious amount of power to have a traction problem with my car.
Quote from: Brucelinc on July 15, 2017, 09:25:01 AM
My understanding is that 2013+ SHOs have brake-based torque vectoring. When pushing the car through corners at higher speeds, it will apply some braking to the inside wheel to help eliminate understeer. It is further my understanding that the 2013+ models can send more torque to the rear than 2010-2012 models.
The Continental Dynamic Torque Vectoring is a bit different and works like the system in the Focus RS. It has clutch packs on each side of the RDU to distribute torque to the appropriate wheel (or both). This system is supposedly capable of sending up to 100% of torque to the rear and up to 100% of torque to either rear wheel.
The real purpose of all this was to make front wheel drive cars handle more like rear drive - eliminating the tendency to understeer. The benefit to us who like to drag race is better off the line traction. From my experience so far, I think it would take a hellacious amount of power to have a traction problem with my car.
I thought you guys got the real torque vectoring, i wasn't sure cause info isn't readily available.
You need to corn up so you can test those traction limits.
I am very happy with the tune that Brad has provided. It is a great daily driver tune. Some of the things that work for the 3.5 ecoboost do not work the same with the 3.0TT in the Continental. We have been chasing the ideal shift points for several revisions and getting them right is not as straightforward as it is with the SHO. We have had shift points as low as 5800 and as high as 6700 but the sweet spot seems to be between 61-6200.
I have been doing my logs in Drive but I use Sport mode at the track. It seems that the shift points are a bit higher when using Sport so that made some of my logs inaccurate for drag racing. Another variable is that I would typically log the car immediately after Brad sent the tune revision. I probably should have been driving it around some first so that any adapting would take effect.
Brad and I have discussed an E50 tune with 4 degrees more spark. Apparently, the fuel pump on the 3.0tt can handle strong mixes of the joy-juice.
Quote from: Brucelinc on July 15, 2017, 09:39:21 AM
I am very happy with the tune that Brad has provided. It is a great daily driver tune. Some of the things that work for the 3.5 ecoboost do not work the same with the 3.0TT in the Continental. We have been chasing the ideal shift points for several revisions and getting them right is not as straightforward as it is with the SHO. We have had shift points as low as 5800 and as high as 6700 but the sweet spot seems to be between 61-6200.
I have been doing my logs in Drive but I use Sport mode at the track. It seems that the shift points are a bit higher when using Sport so that made some of my logs inaccurate for drag racing. Another variable is that I would typically log the car immediately after Brad sent the tune revision. I probably should have been driving it around some first so that any adapting would take effect.
Brad and I have discussed an E50 tune with 4 degrees more spark. Apparently, the fuel pump on the 3.0tt can handle strong mixes of the joy-juice.
I'm jealous you could shift at 6700, my trans just refuses to behave. Definitely not straightforward in mine.
DI corn behaves differently and has different tuning needs. Pretty much all of the research on di E85 has been tested in mine. Real world results match what has been done in the lab. E45-50 is really easy to blend on the fly if your local supplier is consistent with their blends.
I ran again at Brainerd tonight. DA was 3000 and higher at times....very muggy evening. I am not running again until better air. I think I have found a flaw with the Continental than no amount of tuning will fix. When I launched it hard - like I need to for the best time - I got really bad wheel hop tonight. I am not sure if it was track prep or just the soft suspension of the Continental but there was no way I could launch like I wanted to without risking damage.
Still broke into the 12's :thumb: Conditions must've been REALLY bad to have created such an issue even in the presence of AWD. Did you play with tire pressures at all?
Curious if you also have the suspension in it's stiffest setting. In my MKS, the firmest setting seems to reduce the squat in the rear a little and help keep the front planted.
Good time's regardless. The trap speed shows it has potential for a better ET.
Quote from: sholxgt on July 27, 2017, 08:55:52 AM
Curious if you also have the suspension in it's stiffest setting. In my MKS, the firmest setting seems to reduce the squat in the rear a little and help keep the front planted.
Good time's regardless. The trap speed shows it has potential for a better ET.
Yes, I had the suspension in the stiffest setting. The problem may have been due to some people running their A/C while waiting to stage and then dropping condensation on the track. The guys kept sweeping the start line but if one tire was on some moisture while the others were not, it might have caused the issue. I ran at the same track 2 weeks ago and had ZERO wheelhop.
Car 646 on the timeslip was a late model Camaro who couldn't hook. Car 662 was a 392 Hemi Challenger Scat Pack with drag radials. He REALLY could hook! He red-lighted, though.
Quote from: Brucelinc on July 27, 2017, 09:33:09 AM
Car 662 was a 392 Hemi Challenger Scat Pack with drag radials. He REALLY could hook! He red-lighted, though.
You had him seeing all sorts of red! :drive:
I hadn't planned to go back to the track until cooler weather but since it is to darn much fun, I just had to go to Brainerd last night in spite of the 2500 DA. I am disappointed in the results, though. I was running a revised tune that looked good in the logs and feels awesome on the street but the the timeslips do not lie. It is no faster than it was a few revisions back. I was launching pretty gently to avoid wheel hop but I still expected better numbers.
Brad thinks we can do more to help the transmission shift quicker. With the 3.39 gear, I do hit 5th gear before the end of the quarter so it is shifting one more time than my old MKS. Maybe that is hurting me. Or maybe there is not much more that can be done to a 4600 pound land yacht with a 180 cubic inch engine.
Have you considered bracket racing? You are a machine!!!
Yea:
Your Reaction Times are Wicked, I am a little Jealous :(
You guys gotta be teasing me. My RTs are all over the place. I really haven't been paying any attention to RTs since I just want to see what the car can do. It is consistent as can be - just consistently 2-3 tenths slower than I like.