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Ecoboost Performance => Troubleshooting, Maintenance, TSB Articles => Maintenance, Oil, and Fluids => Topic started by: lamrith on February 22, 2017, 02:49:11 PM

Title: Filter Debate
Post by: lamrith on February 22, 2017, 02:49:11 PM
So new '13 sho.  I get 1st oil change free from the dealer, but I like to keep basic maintenance items onhand and buy when deals come up..

I saw this filter mentioned for the SHO. Motorcraft Fl-500
I am guessing that is the original oem filter, are there other filters you guys use and trust?  this is my 1st turbo car, What do I need to look for in a filter beside it just matching how it mounts? anti drainback valves, etc?  I see place list these as fitting the vehicle also, any reason not to use them?:
CHAMPION LABS PH500 Info
FVP R7502
PRIME GUARD POF2500
WIX R84502
Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: derfdog15 on February 22, 2017, 03:06:15 PM
I believe Oil Filters are 'generally' created relatively equal, however most people recommend either sticking to a Motorcraft filter, as it is what Ford designed for (and the oil change requirements are based on testing of the OEM Motorcraft FL-500s as well as Ford Semi-synthetic 5w30 breakdown/contamination times -- with some margin added in).

Of the other filters you listed I have heard good things about WIX, have not heard of the others. Some people also like FRAM filters. Others like to upgrade fluids to full synthetic (AmSoil or similar) and use filters made by the oil manufacturer.

I think any filter made for the specific application should be fine, it just depends how often you plan to service the car, etc. Dealers will always use a Motorcraft Filter (Assuming they actually change the filter -- Some don't because the tech is too lazy to drop the belly pan and remove it - THIS IS A MAJOR NO-NO, ALWAYS check that is has been done -- I mark my filter prior to oil change, and crawl under the car when it is returned, if I pay someone to do my oil changes).

Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: SHOdded on February 22, 2017, 03:23:19 PM
Motorcraft filter is always the first choice, they are well built and highly suitable esp for the EB platform.  They get oil to the engine quickly on startup, and that is all the more important to a TC engine.  I MIGHT consider one of the brands in the OP's post, but only if for some reason I could not get a hold of the MC filter.  I believe they do sell them a little cheaper in 12 packs as well.
MOTORCRAFT FL500S {#AA5Z6714A, FL500SB12}

If you really want to try hiperformance filters, you should go with Mobil1 EP, or K&N, or Royal Purple, or Amsoil.

Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: pmezo33 on February 22, 2017, 04:36:45 PM
All i ever use are Motorcraft filters.  Up to 128k miles and still running like the day i got it (at about 40k).
Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: lamrith on February 22, 2017, 04:41:24 PM
Thanks guys!  Rockauto had the rest on closeout, but I will stick OEM. 
Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: pmezo33 on February 22, 2017, 04:44:27 PM
Now when it comes to oil, you'll probably get a lot of opinions.  I use Mobil 1.  People like Amsoil.  Motorcraft synthetic blend seems to be well regarded, but not sure I'd use it in these engines. I've used it in other non-turbo cars and never had a problem with it.  I've always gone full synthetic with this car since I've had it.  Change it every 5k miles like clockwork.
Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: lamrith on February 22, 2017, 04:51:55 PM
My last car was a STSV, Mobile1 was all that was recommended for that too due to boosted application, so I will stick with it for the SHO.

Picked my SHO up from a gm dealer of a local conglomerate.  They changed oil, wondering now what they used as they do not have a Ford dealer in the family down where the car was...  I will climb under there next weekend and see what filter is on it as a clue to what they used.
Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: Night Hawk on February 22, 2017, 05:09:22 PM
Ive had pretty good luck with the Mobil-1 filters. FWIW
Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: SHOdded on February 22, 2017, 05:26:11 PM
Quote from: lamrith on February 22, 2017, 04:51:55 PM
Picked my SHO up from a gm dealer of a local conglomerate.  They changed oil, wondering now what they used as they do not have a Ford dealer in the family down where the car was...  I will climb under there next weekend and see what filter is on it as a clue to what they used.
Wouldn't be surprised if it is an AC Delco.  That's what our Fusion Sport had on it.
Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on February 22, 2017, 05:41:43 PM
you can get a peek at it just by popping the hood and looking right underneath the heat shield on the exhaust manifold actually


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Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: Linemonkey on February 22, 2017, 06:28:08 PM
When I bought my 13, used, it was from a Dodge dealership. I immediately changed the oil after I got it. Low and behold, there was some Mopar oil filter on it!

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Title: Filter Debate
Post by: MiWiAu on February 22, 2017, 10:42:00 PM
I switched back to the OEM filter (from Amsoil) after reading passionate replies regarding the Ford filter.

On a side note, is it normal for Rock to just toss loose filters in the box? I ordered two and there was no packaging for the filters. They were just loose in the box with the other stuff I ordered.

I know the cardboard filter boxes aren't dirt proof, but I'm overly paranoid about them getting contaminanted from laying loose in a warehouse somewhere. Spiders, dirt, cigarette butts, etc...


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Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: pmezo33 on February 22, 2017, 11:06:15 PM
Quote from: MiWiAu on February 22, 2017, 10:42:00 PM
I switched back to the OEM filter (from Amsoil) after reading passionate replies regarding the Ford filter.

On a side note, is it normal for Rock to just toss loose filters in the box? I ordered two and there was no packaging for the filters. They were just loose in the box with the other stuff I ordered.

I know the cardboard filter boxes aren't dirt proof, but I'm overly paranoid about them getting contaminanted from laying loose in a warehouse somewhere. Spiders, dirt, cigarette butts, etc...


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Did you order at regular price or did you get them while they were they were on "wholesaler closeout"?

Every motorcraft filter i've gotten from rockauto have been in original packaging and I've ordered a lot of them over the years.  I have ordered some of their stuff on "wholesaler closeout" at a discounted price and it's always come in weird packaging or no packaging at all.
Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: MiWiAu on February 23, 2017, 06:39:12 AM
Quote from: pmezo33 on February 22, 2017, 11:06:15 PM
Quote from: MiWiAu on February 22, 2017, 10:42:00 PM
I switched back to the OEM filter (from Amsoil) after reading passionate replies regarding the Ford filter.

On a side note, is it normal for Rock to just toss loose filters in the box? I ordered two and there was no packaging for the filters. They were just loose in the box with the other stuff I ordered.

I know the cardboard filter boxes aren't dirt proof, but I'm overly paranoid about them getting contaminanted from laying loose in a warehouse somewhere. Spiders, dirt, cigarette butts, etc...


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Did you order at regular price or did you get them while they were they were on "wholesaler closeout"?

Every motorcraft filter i've gotten from rockauto have been in original packaging and I've ordered a lot of them over the years.  I have ordered some of their stuff on "wholesaler closeout" at a discounted price and it's always come in weird packaging or no packaging at all.

I'd have to double check,  but I'm 99% sure I paid normal price. Not a huge deal, but I was a little surprised. They're in ziplock bags now sitting on the shelf in my garage. :)


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Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: jims2015 on February 23, 2017, 09:43:18 AM
Quote from: Night Hawk on February 22, 2017, 05:09:22 PM
Ive had pretty good luck with the Mobil-1 filters. FWIW

Ditto
Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: StealBlueSho on February 23, 2017, 10:02:05 AM
My good friend who is a master mechanic used to use FRAM all the time.. cheap.. worked well... until he had a FRAM filter literally explode while he was driving... now he is vehemently against them LOL...

Mobile One FTW... all my cars have been lubed with Mobile One and their filters.. never an issue! 
Title: Re: Filter Debate
Post by: joe raptor on February 23, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
I always use WIX oil filters on all my vehicles !!!
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