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Ecoboost Performance => Performance => Topic started by: Scott4957 on February 17, 2017, 09:58:40 AM

Title: Knock Sensor Harness question
Post by: Scott4957 on February 17, 2017, 09:58:40 AM
I've seen some pictures where it looks like there are only 2 yellow wires coming out of the harness on the drivers side near the head. Others "including mine" have two pairs "black and yellow" coming out of the harness. Is there a difference or am I just seeing things? Trying to track down possible false knock and I'm not sure if this harness goes to both knock sensors or if I have another harness and wires on the passenger side of the engine that I need to look at.

Thanks,
Scott
Title: Re: Knock Sensor Harness question
Post by: ZSHO on February 17, 2017, 10:07:05 AM
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,554.msg113088.html#msg113088. (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,554.msg113088.html#msg113088.) Hope this helps any.  Z
Title: Re: Knock Sensor Harness question
Post by: Scott4957 on February 17, 2017, 11:56:26 AM
Thank you, I did see that. I'm confident there are 2 knock sensors, one for each bank. Just not sure on the wiring. That shows a single knock sensor with 4 wires. Not sure if that means the 4 wires I see on the drivers side harness is for a single sensor or if its actually 2 wires per sensor and the harness has both sensors on it. I covered the wires, did the whole zip tie deal and still have what could be false knock so I'm trying to figure out if I need to be looking for another harness or not. I'm sure AJP will get back to me via email while we are tuning for next steps but I am just trying to get out ahead of him and try to fix the issue if it is physical.

Thanks,
Scott
Title: Re: Knock Sensor Harness question
Post by: hawkeye93 on February 17, 2017, 01:03:09 PM
Each bank has a single sensor, but they are wired together in the same harness (#9 below).  There are 2 small wires bundled together that go to each sensor.

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If you use Torque, you can log the raw data from each sensor independently.  That might help determine if your KR is related to a chafing wire.  In my case, the raw KS numbers are fairly even.

KS Raw
PID: 220403 (KS1) 220404 (KS2)
Max: 32768.0
Min: 0.0
Equation: ((A*256)+B)

Knock Correction
PID: 2203ec
Unit: deg
Max: 8.0
Min: -5.0
Equation: ((signed(A)*256)+B)/512
Title: Re: Knock Sensor Harness question
Post by: Scott4957 on February 17, 2017, 01:48:02 PM
Excellent, that is what I was hoping for. And thank you for the info about Torque being able to see each individually. I assume if there is a major discrepancy between the two that I could have a bad sensor or wires/harness. I have torque and a bluetooth OBD2 reader, just need to get it all configured again.

Thanks,
Scott
Title: Re: Knock Sensor Harness question
Post by: Scott4957 on February 17, 2017, 03:05:33 PM
Never added custom PID's before but I assume:

Equation: (((signed(A)*256)+B)/512

Should be

Equation: (((signed(A)*256)+B)/512) correct?
Title: Re: Knock Sensor Harness question
Post by: hawkeye93 on February 17, 2017, 08:38:38 PM
That should also work, but I just included an extra left parenthesis.  Should be:

((signed(A)*256)+B)/512

Being a software engineer, you'd think I could type, but sadly, no...

(fixed my original post)
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