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Title: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: hawkeye93 on February 02, 2017, 04:16:20 PM
I really like Alky Control's meth system, and I liked how bpd1151 installed his system, but there were also a few things I don't like about the Alky/Livernois meth setup. So I decided to install a hybrid system, with parts from several different vendors.  I followed a lot of bpd1151's installation writeup (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,524.msg3168.html), including the PAC & gain controller placement, firewall hole, etc.

1. I didn't want to use the windshield washer reservoir for my meth tank. Also, since I have a PP, I don't have a spare tire, so there's all this room in the trunk just waiting to be utilized.  Plus, by mounting in the trunk, the pump isn't exposed to the Minnesota elements.
2. I like the Devils Own nozzles and fittings; Alky uses industrial stuff from McMaster-Carr.  DO makes quality stuff.
3. The 3 gallon universal tank from Prometh (formerly Alcohol Injection Systems) is really cool.  It has a built-in sump, available level sensor, and a racing-style fill cap.  And the pump mounts right underneath it (fits Shurflo or Aquatec pumps).

Parts list:

Alky Control
Pump (https://www.alkycontrol.com/product-page/8fe8f05f-951e-1563-b917-88adf8284543)
Controller (https://www.alkycontrol.com/product-page/d99d3cc8-bc75-ec47-6c72-f713016f98f3)

ProMeth
Tank (https://prometh.com/collections/tanks/products/universal-3-gallon-trunk-mount-tank?variant=29342175555)

Devils Own
Check valve (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/an-fittings/393-an-check-valve.html)
Bulkhead fitting (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/an-fittings/439-tee-adapter-fittings.html)
Bulkhead nut (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/an-fittings/440-tee-adapter-fittings.html)
Outlet fitting (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/an-fittings/395-an-to-npt-straight.html)
DO10 nozzle (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/nozzles/181-outside-mount-nozzles-do10.html)
Nozzle holder (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/an-fittings/394-an-nozzle-holder.html)
Stainless AN tubing (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/an-fittings/396--4-ptfe-stainless-hose.html)

Misc.
Fuse tap (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U61OO50)
Relay (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N66W2XF)
Hardboard (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Hardboard-Tempered-Panel-Common-3-16-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-Actual-0-155-in-x-47-7-in-x-95-7-in-832780/202404545)
Fabric (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P5P2RN8)
3M 08088 General Purpose Trim Adhesive (https://www.amazon.com/3M-08088-General-Trim-Adhesive/dp/B0002JMPRA)
7/16 x 3/4 rubber grommet
Variety of wire, screws, etc.

Spare tire well before:
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0624_zpsatxlrilz.jpg)

Spare tire well after:
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0633_zpsv96jmt4c.jpg)

The tank is just a little too tall to allow the OEM spare tire cover, so I'm working on fabricating a larger one out of hardboard & fabric to sit on the slightly higher "lip" in the trunk.

Note: When I drilled the hole for the bulkhead, I didn't realize there was a bracket behind my hole.  I'd suggest drilling at more of an 11 o'clock or 1 o'clock position.

Fuse tap.  I connected the relay (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N66W2XF) (not shown) to fuse 91, which was unused in my car.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0636_zpsqfytpadj.jpg)

Gain controller.  I mounted the PAC in the same spot as bpd1151.  Wiring from PAC to pump is installed in the rocker, along with the wiring for the tank level sensor.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0637_zpsgtbbezgr.jpg)

Status LED.  I wanted to mount the status LED where it would be visible while driving.  I didn't use the low level LED from Alky.  Instead, I wired the level sensor from the tank to the windshield washer level sensor.  That way, when either wash fluid or meth gets low, it will trigger the notice on the IP.  If you decide to mount in the defroster grille like I did, be warned: the "sentinel" light sensor in the middle is a real b*tch to reconnect.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0628_zps92do4doq.jpg)
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0630_zpswycpsuic.jpg)

Nozzle.  I mounted the nozzle on the underside of the "noisemaker" piece, prior to the throttle body.  There is a small circle of molding flash on the bottom, that's exactly where I drilled. I do plan to cover the stainless tubing in black plastic wire loom.  There is also a DO check valve (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/an-fittings/393-an-check-valve.html), 8 inches before the nozzle.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0638_zpsgsoab9bt.jpg)

That's it.  Dyno runs to follow...
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: derfdog15 on February 03, 2017, 10:29:58 AM
Looks good, though some of us opted to get a full size spare and no longer have the luxury of a spare tire well to play with.

Anyone know if there is room under the rear seats? I think that would be a pretty cool install spot.
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: glock-coma on February 03, 2017, 06:32:20 PM
No room under the seats unfortunately. I've had mine apart many times when running audio power wires. 
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: hawkeye93 on March 03, 2017, 01:13:29 PM
UPDATE: Unfortunately, the spot I chose to mount the nozzle didn't work out.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0654_zpskebvu32e.jpg)

Fortunately, I had a contingency plan.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0653_zpsc3sulm3i.jpg)
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: jims2015 on March 03, 2017, 01:52:52 PM
Quote from: hawkeye93 on February 02, 2017, 04:16:20 PM

Status LED.  I wanted to mount the status LED where it would be visible while driving.  I didn't use the low level LED from Alky.  Instead, I wired the level sensor from the tank to the windshield washer level sensor.  That way, when either wash fluid or meth gets low, it will trigger the notice on the IP.  If you decide to mount in the defroster grille like I did, be warned: the "sentinel" light sensor in the middle is a real b*tch to reconnect.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0628_zps92do4doq.jpg)
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0630_zpswycpsuic.jpg)


Livernois mounted both my low level and status LED's in the speedometer cluster housing. Absolutely perfect for me. Can't miss them.
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: SHOdded on March 03, 2017, 02:00:57 PM
Pics, Jim?
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: mrhighcaliber on March 05, 2017, 03:19:58 PM
Quote from: hawkeye93 on February 02, 2017, 04:16:20 PM
I really like Alky Control's meth system, and I liked how bpd1151 installed his system, but there were also a few things I don't like about the Alky/Livernois meth setup. So I decided to install a hybrid system, with parts from several different vendors.  I followed a lot of bpd1151's installation writeup (http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,524.msg3168.html), including the PAC & gain controller placement, firewall hole, etc.

1. I didn't want to use the windshield washer reservoir for my meth tank. Also, since I have a PP, I don't have a spare tire, so there's all this room in the trunk just waiting to be utilized.  Plus, by mounting in the trunk, the pump isn't exposed to the Minnesota elements.
2. I like the Devils Own nozzles and fittings; Alky uses industrial stuff from McMaster-Carr.  DO makes quality stuff.
3. The 3 gallon universal tank from Prometh (formerly Alcohol Injection Systems) is really cool.  It has a built-in sump, available level sensor, and a racing-style fill cap.  And the pump mounts right underneath it (fits Shurflo or Aquatec pumps).

Parts list:

Alky Control
Pump (https://www.alkycontrol.com/product-page/8fe8f05f-951e-1563-b917-88adf8284543)
Controller (https://www.alkycontrol.com/product-page/d99d3cc8-bc75-ec47-6c72-f713016f98f3)

ProMeth
Tank (https://prometh.com/collections/tanks/products/universal-3-gallon-trunk-mount-tank?variant=29342175555)

Devils Own
Check valve (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/an-fittings/393-an-check-valve.html)
Bulkhead fitting (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/an-fittings/393-an-check-valve.html)
Bulkhead nut (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/an-fittings/440-tee-adapter-fittings.html)
Outlet fitting (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/an-fittings/395-an-to-npt-straight.html)
DO10 nozzle (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/nozzles/181-outside-mount-nozzles-do10.html)
Nozzle holder (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/an-fittings/394-an-nozzle-holder.html)
Stainless AN tubing (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/an-fittings/396--4-ptfe-stainless-hose.html)

Misc.
Fuse tap (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U61OO50)
Relay (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N66W2XF)
Hardboard (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Hardboard-Tempered-Panel-Common-3-16-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-Actual-0-155-in-x-47-7-in-x-95-7-in-832780/202404545)
Fabric (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P5P2RN8)
3M 08088 General Purpose Trim Adhesive (https://www.amazon.com/3M-08088-General-Trim-Adhesive/dp/B0002JMPRA)
7/16 x 3/4 rubber grommet
Variety of wire, screws, etc.

Spare tire well before:
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0624_zpsatxlrilz.jpg)

Spare tire well after:
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0633_zpsv96jmt4c.jpg)

The tank is just a little too tall to allow the OEM spare tire cover, so I'm working on fabricating a larger one out of hardboard & fabric to sit on the slightly higher "lip" in the trunk.

Note: When I drilled the hole for the bulkhead, I didn't realize there was a bracket behind my hole.  I'd suggest drilling at more of an 11 o'clock or 1 o'clock position.

Fuse tap.  I connected the relay (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N66W2XF) (not shown) to fuse 91, which was unused in my car.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0636_zpsqfytpadj.jpg)

Gain controller.  I mounted the PAC in the same spot as bpd1151.  Wiring from PAC to pump is installed in the rocker, along with the wiring for the tank level sensor.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0637_zpsgtbbezgr.jpg)

Status LED.  I wanted to mount the status LED where it would be visible while driving.  I didn't use the low level LED from Alky.  Instead, I wired the level sensor from the tank to the windshield washer level sensor.  That way, when either wash fluid or meth gets low, it will trigger the notice on the IP.  If you decide to mount in the defroster grille like I did, be warned: the "sentinel" light sensor in the middle is a real b*tch to reconnect.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0628_zps92do4doq.jpg)
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0630_zpswycpsuic.jpg)

Nozzle.  I mounted the nozzle on the underside of the "noisemaker" piece, prior to the throttle body.  There is a small circle of molding flash on the bottom, that's exactly where I drilled. I do plan to cover the stainless tubing in black plastic wire loom.  There is also a DO check valve (http://www.alcohol-injection.com/en/an-fittings/393-an-check-valve.html), 8 inches before the nozzle.
(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/IMAG0638_zpsgsoab9bt.jpg)

That's it.  Dyno runs to follow...
This is very similar to the setup I wish to do. I'm just concerned about lms willing to dynotune for it since technically Its not "thier" lms/alky system. Only difference is that I want to do an intake runner meth nozzle install.

Are you getting your system dyno tuned by Lms? 

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Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: hawkeye93 on March 05, 2017, 05:26:00 PM
As long as you're spending American dollars, I expect they'd tune for you.  I have 91 & 93 WM tunes from LMS, just not dyno tuned.
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: J-Will on March 06, 2017, 08:48:28 AM
3 gal tank seems like a good size. How much higher than the spare tire is the tank? When you remake the hardboard will there be a bulge?

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Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: hawkeye93 on March 06, 2017, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: J-Will on March 06, 2017, 08:48:28 AM
3 gal tank seems like a good size. How much higher than the spare tire is the tank? When you remake the hardboard will there be a bulge?
With the hardboard base I built for mounting the tank, the top of the tank is about 8.25" from the floor of the spare tire well, which is roughly an inch too tall to use the OEM tire cover.  My plan, which I have not yet finished, is to build a new, larger hardboard cover to sit on the ledge a couple inches higher.  It will sit above the tank, so no bulge.  It might require support in the center to avoid sagging, but I have a plan to add a turnbuckle support to the threaded rod that holds the tire pump.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0655_zpsk727mvzh.jpg)
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: J-Will on March 06, 2017, 12:04:48 PM
cool.  Excited to see the finished install
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: autobahn terror on March 24, 2017, 04:30:05 AM
Any Picture of the Pump Install? How much of a pain would it be to convert an LMS alky kit already installed to a trunk kit like yours?
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: hawkeye93 on March 24, 2017, 10:43:59 AM
The pump mounts to the underside of the tank.  Here's a picture of the ProMeth tank with pump installed (from the ProMeth site):

(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1020/2601/products/prostreet_3_gallon_tank_bottom_1024x1024.jpg?v=1470272740)

As far as repurposing an already-installed Alky kit, it's going to depend on how/where it was installed.  The way I installed mine, the Alky wire length from the PAC to the pump was just about perfect, just a little longer than I needed.  If yours has been cut, that would complicate things a bit.  You'll also need to replace the tubing from the pump to the nozzle; the Alky tubing surely won't be long enough.  I bought the longest AN-4 tubing available from Devil's Own, and it worked out well.  I ran the tubing from the spare tire well through the plastic channel that runs to the front, up into the right side of the engine compartment.  I also bought a short length (8") of AN-4, so I could install a check valve just in front of the nozzle.  You might be able to reuse some of the Alky components for the check valve installation.
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: jims2015 on March 24, 2017, 03:15:37 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on March 03, 2017, 02:00:57 PM
Pics, Jim?

(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f359/46628/DSC02937ab_zps4mfu7lnn.jpg)
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: autobahn terror on March 29, 2017, 01:59:34 AM
I figured as much with the location of the pump, I was contemplating a low speed pump on the tank to feed the alky pump as already installed, but i think it would be extra complication that is not required. This seems like a good summer project for me one weekend.

As far as the wiring harness, I am not sure, as I did not install the kit myself, my time is very constrained...
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: lamrith on June 07, 2017, 12:20:57 AM
Quote from: hawkeye93 on March 03, 2017, 01:13:29 PM
UPDATE: Unfortunately, the spot I chose to mount the nozzle didn't work out.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0654_zpskebvu32e.jpg)
Can you elaborate on exactly why it did not work out?  I seem to recall seeing about everyone mounting it in that general area and have not heard of issues before.
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: hawkeye93 on June 07, 2017, 07:22:13 AM
Quote from: lamrith on June 07, 2017, 12:20:57 AM
Quote from: hawkeye93 on March 03, 2017, 01:13:29 PM
UPDATE: Unfortunately, the spot I chose to mount the nozzle didn't work out.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0654_zpskebvu32e.jpg)
Can you elaborate on exactly why it did not work out?  I seem to recall seeing about everyone mounting it in that general area and have not heard of issues before.
The plastic broke, and the nozzle pulled out.  It just wasn't strong enough or thick enough.  I'm now using a meth bung on a set of hotpipes that I purchased from a member here.  I think they were one of the first sets of pipes produced (SwampRat).

Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: ZSHO on June 07, 2017, 07:56:52 AM
X2 Hawkeye is correct you will at least need an aluminum Noisemaker to mount your Nozzle pre-post T/B.
I think Mike.B  from www.ecwopowerparts.com (http://www.ecwopowerparts.com) sells just the Noisemaker alone.
Here is a pic of my old one for refeference. Z
(http://i.imgur.com/airwM7Jh.jpg)

http://www.ecopowerparts.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=11 (http://www.ecopowerparts.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=11)
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: BoostedSho2010 on June 15, 2017, 04:05:07 PM
Quote from: hawkeye93 on March 03, 2017, 01:13:29 PM
UPDATE: Unfortunately, the spot I chose to mount the nozzle didn't work out.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0654_zpskebvu32e.jpg)

Fortunately, I had a contingency plan.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0653_zpsc3sulm3i.jpg)
On this I noticed it will soak up the meth and get saturated. I found the rubber replacement at my speed shop I really recommend replacing the factory clamps also (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170615/28e1f409d144ddaf020e05ba0e4a9536.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170615/0fb04e4cf976836b72cd8d816a0d3c3a.jpg)


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Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 11:58:01 AM
Quote from: hawkeye93 on March 03, 2017, 01:13:29 PM
UPDATE: Unfortunately, the spot I chose to mount the nozzle didn't work out.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0654_zpskebvu32e.jpg)

Fortunately, I had a contingency plan.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0653_zpsc3sulm3i.jpg)

Gents, what is the name of that pipe  replacement ?
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: ZSHO on June 20, 2017, 02:02:11 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 11:58:01 AM
Quote from: hawkeye93 on March 03, 2017, 01:13:29 PM
UPDATE: Unfortunately, the spot I chose to mount the nozzle didn't work out.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0654_zpskebvu32e.jpg)

Fortunately, I had a contingency plan.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0653_zpsc3sulm3i.jpg)

Gents, what is the name of that pipe  replacement ?
(Noise maker eliminator pipe).
Mike.B sells them on his very own site.  Z
http://www.ecopowerparts.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=11 (http://www.ecopowerparts.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=11)
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
TY!

I emailed to see if he will sell the Noise-maker pipe out of kit.  I really do not need the rest at my OEM power levels ..  i am super close to pulling the trigger.

damn meth ..
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: ZSHO on June 20, 2017, 02:16:47 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
TY!

I emailed to see if he will sell the Noise-maker pipe out of kit.  I really do not need the rest at my OEM power levels ..  i am super close to pulling the trigger.

damn meth ..
I would order directly from his site and it should be available separately but you need to make sure to select the proper size meth bung 1/8 or 1/4 NPT. Z
FYI it is a custom piece so would allow sufficient time in order for it to be made.
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 03:37:11 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on June 20, 2017, 02:16:47 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
TY!

I emailed to see if he will sell the Noise-maker pipe out of kit.  I really do not need the rest at my OEM power levels ..  i am super close to pulling the trigger.

damn meth ..
I would order directly from his site and it should be available separately but you need to make sure to select the proper size meth bung 1/8 or 1/4 NPT. Z
FYI it is a custom piece so would allow sufficient time in order for it to be made.

YUP!  Waiting on a reply from him now .. :)  *IF* this works out for a 100$ +/- 10$ for the noisemaker\elbow .. i think i have Wife level buy off on the man hour cost to get it pro-installed and avoid my hamfists doing the bad things to a good car.

JUST in time for hot racing weather too :)
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 04:36:32 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on June 20, 2017, 02:16:47 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 02:11:04 PM
TY!

I emailed to see if he will sell the Noise-maker pipe out of kit.  I really do not need the rest at my OEM power levels ..  i am super close to pulling the trigger.

damn meth ..
I would order directly from his site and it should be available separately but you need to make sure to select the proper size meth bung 1/8 or 1/4 NPT. Z
FYI it is a custom piece so would allow sufficient time in order for it to be made.

Z,  (@all really) did you HAVE to change the BoV to install the hot-pipes?  Or was a that choice?   

I am trying to avoid excess part swap in the event i need to revert  to stock, and not mess with my 99.999% done tune.

Thoughts?  Or any one else's thoughts?
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: ZSHO on June 20, 2017, 04:54:03 PM


@Tropersho would only purchase the noise maker eliminator pipe as mentioned above with the proper meth bung to suite your desired application.
There is NO BOV needed or to be changed when purchasing ONLY the pipe referenced above. Z
The Tial BOV feature is optional and will certainly cost more.
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 05:03:01 PM
Z,  sorry man on the quote parade :P

on the BoV,  in the pic for Hawkeye93 the lower pic with the new hotpipe.. is that not a Bov (red component)?  am i being dumb?

Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: lamrith on June 20, 2017, 05:09:52 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 05:03:01 PM
Z,  sorry man on the quote parade :P

on the BoV,  in the pic for Hawkeye93 the lower pic with the new hotpipe.. is that not a Bov (red component)?  am i being dumb?
Hawkeye's one does have BOV mount.  But Ecoparts sells one without, it is $190+30 for meth port.
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 05:14:28 PM
well crap,  now I am more confused. 

Forgive my lack of knowledge in this,  but where the heck do you put the BOV if the pipe doesn't have a port?  you NEED a BoV do you not?

And if i change the BoV i need to alter the tune?

getting complicated :(
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: ZSHO on June 20, 2017, 05:23:22 PM
@Trophersho if you only want a basic pipe for your meth install its 190.00 plus 30.00 for the bung while using your existing OEM BOV.

The TIAL BOV is an extra feature/optional which is an extra 300.00+ for eye candy. Z
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 05:25:07 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 05:14:28 PM
well crap,  now I am more confused. 

Forgive my lack of knowledge in this,  but where the heck do you put the BOV if the pipe doesn't have a port?  you NEED a BoV do you not?

And if i change the BoV i need to alter the tune?

getting complicated :(

Solved it.  Were going to cheat.   Well take out the rubber flex hose that connects the noise-maker to the IC hard pipe. Build a 3-4 inch long metal pipe of the same diameter,  then custom cut new rubber hose on either side of the new hard piping or one side of the hard piping to mate it all up. 

We don't have to remount anything on the noise maker.. and I get my meth mounted in metal on the cheap. And it remains flexible for motor movement.
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: SHOdded on June 20, 2017, 05:46:59 PM
Sounds doable.
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 06:08:13 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on June 20, 2017, 05:46:59 PM
Sounds doable.

You can to call it a hack :D .. I am :P  .. improvising is half of my life :)
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: SHOdded on June 20, 2017, 06:16:27 PM
:D
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: Macgyver on June 20, 2017, 08:50:57 PM
After reading the OPs title. I had hopes for a portable drug lab to help fund my retirement. Damn
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: mrhighcaliber on June 20, 2017, 08:53:01 PM
Quote from: Macgyver on June 20, 2017, 08:50:57 PM
After reading the OPs title. I had hopes for a portable drug lab to help fund my retirement. Damn
*cough* pm for details *cough*

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Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: hawkeye93 on June 20, 2017, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Macgyver on June 20, 2017, 08:50:57 PM
After reading the OPs title. I had hopes for a portable drug lab to help fund my retirement. Damn
My friend Walter and I tried to fit it in a car, but the car was just too small.  The smallest portable system we could manage was an old Winnebago that we drove around the New Mexico desert.  Good times.

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Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: Macgyver on June 20, 2017, 09:23:20 PM
Quote from: hawkeye93 on June 20, 2017, 09:20:14 PM
Quote from: Macgyver on June 20, 2017, 08:50:57 PM
After reading the OPs title. I had hopes for a portable drug lab to help fund my retirement. Damn
My friend Walter and I tried to fit it in a car, but the car was just too small.  The smallest portable system we could manage was an old Winnebago that we drove around the New Mexico desert.  Good times.

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LOLOL Good stuff.
Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: BoostedSho2010 on June 22, 2017, 03:11:12 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 11:58:01 AM
Quote from: hawkeye93 on March 03, 2017, 01:13:29 PM
UPDATE: Unfortunately, the spot I chose to mount the nozzle didn't work out.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0654_zpskebvu32e.jpg)

Fortunately, I had a contingency plan.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0653_zpsc3sulm3i.jpg)

Gents, what is the name of that pipe  replacement ?
I have mine in the exact same spot. Who didn't it work?


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Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: BoostedSho2010 on June 22, 2017, 03:12:41 PM
Quote from: BoostedSho2010 on June 22, 2017, 03:11:12 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on June 20, 2017, 11:58:01 AM
Quote from: hawkeye93 on March 03, 2017, 01:13:29 PM
UPDATE: Unfortunately, the spot I chose to mount the nozzle didn't work out.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0654_zpskebvu32e.jpg)

Fortunately, I had a contingency plan.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMAG0653_zpsc3sulm3i.jpg)

Gents, what is the name of that pipe  replacement ?
I have mine in the exact same spot. Who didn't it work?


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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170622/e07b940c1188da0d96a0df8a0f6b7b09.jpg) I did get more room once I upgraded the rubber and clamps.



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Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: hawkeye93 on August 27, 2017, 05:22:08 PM
Update: I did this a while ago, just finally getting around to posting it.  I finished the trunk cover.  It fits pretty well, but as you can see the fabric color doesn't match exactly.  I made a support using a M8x1.25 threaded rod & a rod coupler, to fit on top of the factory rod.

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMG_20170827_094529_zpskhgge5ca.jpg) (http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMG_20170704_163837_zps0zohsh8m.jpg)

I also found that it was difficult to see the green LED in daylight, so I installed a DPDT On-On switch (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LDV59Q/), so that I can reverse the red & green indicators.  The way I have it now, green indicates the pump building pressure, red indicates spraying.  Much easier to see the red in daylight.  A flip of the switch changes it back to "normal."

(http://i902.photobucket.com/albums/ac230/hawkeye93/2015%20Ford%20Taurus%20SHO/Meth%20install/IMG_20170714_201001_zpsbyomm1wb.jpg)

Title: Re: Hybrid trunk-mounted meth system
Post by: jbeez on November 22, 2017, 10:16:45 PM
The bulkhead fitting link is linking to a checkvalve above it, do you have the right url for that part?

What length AN hose did you purchase from trunk to front? I'm going to do the same setup, not sure which length exactly. What would you recommend?

What do you run, 33%, 50/50, 100%?
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