I know this was touched on already but I decided to start a new thread.
2013 SHO with tune, full exhaust, CAI, plugs, thermostat-
Every so often I'm getting smoke out of the exhaust and it smells like oil. I had the air filter off last week and it was fine and the car is fine at start up. It pretty much only happens if I'm on her(only smokes occasionally, not all the time). I heard of Ford replacing turbos on our cars so I'm wondering what you guys think. I have a private track rental on May 15th and don't wanna risk it if something is wrong. Thoughts??
Whats up BILL,there are a few things to check for,oil in the CAC(intercooler)intake,air charge pipe,pcv,oil seperator,any visible oil around the rear valve cover,any oil inside the spark plug wells,#6 cylinder usually the culprit,check and inspect plugs,any codes set,any performance issues like hesitation,rough idle,Z
Before turbo, I'd check the intake piping/CAC for oil pooling. Also turbo pipes for cracks, especially near the clamping areas. Your SHO may be in need of a valve cover update as well, though the jury's still out if that is a long-term solution to the PCV issue.
Quote from: BMC10SEC50 on April 19, 2015, 09:53:36 PM
I know this was touched on already but I decided to start a new thread.
2013 SHO with tune, full exhaust, CAI, plugs, thermostat-
Every so often I'm getting smoke out of the exhaust and it smells like oil. I had the air filter off last week and it was fine and the car is fine at start up. It pretty much only happens if I'm on her(only smokes occasionally, not all the time). I heard of Ford replacing turbos on our cars so I'm wondering what you guys think. I have a private track rental on May 15th and don't wanna risk it if something is wrong. Thoughts??
I recall last time we met at the track that Airaid was pretty dirty,hope you cleaned it,cause just like SHOdded mentioned oil in the intake piping since she runs better with stock air filter,SHOdded is the man.Z
Others that have this also have catless down pipes. People think the lack of back pressure causes turbo seals to leak oil or the seals are bad and cats were hiding it to begin with.
Could always go back to stock pipes and see if oil goes away.
Did you get rid of the 3rd cat? Do you have a corsa? Seems most that have this got rid of all cats.
He has catted DPs listed in his sig so I'm thinking this isn't it and I would expect bad turbo oil seals to be more of a consistent problem like smoking every time he gets on it.
My money is on PCV oil vapor build up in his intercooler that occasionally gets blown up into the throttle body under high boost conditions.
Quote from: 66 Galaxie on April 20, 2015, 07:31:27 AM
He has catted DPs listed in his sig so I'm thinking this isn't it and I would expect bad turbo oil seals to be more of a consistent problem like smoking every time he gets on it.
My money is on PCV oil vapor build up in his intercooler that occasionally gets blown up into the throttle body under high boost conditions.
I agree with your assumption,same as ours,based on his sig he has off-road DP.Z
Thanks for the correction. I read your sig not his, whoops!
Quote from: 66 Galaxie on April 20, 2015, 09:14:31 AM
Thanks for the correction. I read your sig not his, whoops!
Its all good Galaxie,appreciate you chiming in.Z
I am having the same issue..... new ATP turbos on the way for me! The smoke I am seeing has a blue tint to it (burning oil) and has an oil smell to it.... called Livernois and confirmed my thoughts.... turbo seals. I would only see the smoke after a wide open throttle pull. Even if I was only WOT for a few seconds. As soon as I let off the throttle, I could look in my rear view mirror and see blue smoke billowing behind my car, and when I got back on the throttle there was a big puff of blue that would come out. So I just went ahead and decided to get new turbos and hot pipes as well.
So I hear the 5xx mark is going to be a blast from the past pretty soon ;) Getting the black coated hotpipes?
Quote from: SHOdded on April 20, 2015, 12:29:42 PM
So I hear the 5xx mark is going to be a blast from the past pretty soon ;) Getting the black coated hotpipes?
haha.... welllll I don't know how aggressive I want to go with the tuning since it is my daily driver, and I am tired of fixing it..... BUT I am wanting more power for sure. The new turbos plus a little tweak in the tuning, I will be a very happy man. :) Satin Black Coated pipes for me.
I was on the Dyno this weekend getting runs of my Livernois tune + plugs.... Near the top end of my RPM band, I was getting some black smoke through the exhaust. I'm going to be checking oil levels... I'm thinking at WOT with the tunes, we are getting some sort of blow by or??
Quote from: 14SHOCAR on April 20, 2015, 01:40:13 PM
I was on the Dyno this weekend getting runs of my Livernois tune + plugs.... Near the top end of my RPM band, I was getting some black smoke through the exhaust. I'm going to be checking oil levels... I'm thinking at WOT with the tunes, we are getting some sort of blow by or??
Black smoke isn't all that bad. Our cars push a lot of fuel with mods which will cause some "soot" to come out at WOT.... the smoke we are talking about only comes out on the deceleration. It is def. a blue smoke coming out and smells like oil.
Poker-
Non-catted down pipes and Corsa cat back. Think its going to my buddy at Ford to be checked. Waiting to hear back from him. Thanks for all the replies, I'll keep you guys posted.
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Others that have this also have catless down pipes. People think the lack of back pressure causes turbo seals to leak oil or the seals are bad and cats were hiding it to begin with.
Could always go back to stock pipes and see if oil goes away.
Did you get rid of the 3rd cat? Do you have a corsa? Seems most that have this got rid of all cats.
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Quote from: 14SHOCAR on April 20, 2015, 01:40:13 PM
I was on the Dyno this weekend getting runs of my Livernois tune + plugs.... Near the top end of my RPM band, I was getting some black smoke through the exhaust. I'm going to be checking oil levels... I'm thinking at WOT with the tunes, we are getting some sort of blow by or??
I wouldnt worry to much about it,its a sign that the AFR is is lower than it should be,so basically its running rich the way it should with a tune,just keep an eye on the cac levels.Z
Quote from: 14SHOCAR on April 20, 2015, 01:40:13 PM
I was on the Dyno this weekend getting runs of my Livernois tune + plugs.... Near the top end of my RPM band, I was getting some black smoke through the exhaust. I'm going to be checking oil levels... I'm thinking at WOT with the tunes, we are getting some sort of blow by or??
Black smoke is usually fuel. If you check your plugs to make sure they are not building up carbon or wet, you should be ok. Run some FI cleaner through the tank, clean the MAP sensors to make sure the PCM is getting accurate data.
Quote from: SHOdded on April 20, 2015, 03:15:32 PM
Black smoke is usually fuel. If you check your plugs to make sure they are not building up carbon or wet, you should be ok. Run some FI cleaner through the tank, clean the MAP sensors to make sure the PCM is getting accurate data.
I literally just installed the new plugs and MAP sensor with less than a weeks worth of driving. Any recommendations on the FI cleaner?
Techron is a very good FI/fuel system cleaner
That or BG 44k
I use 44k every oil change, but at every fill up, I use archoil, it's good stuff
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I have aways used B.G-44K fuel system cleaners for quite sometime now,made especially for DGI engines,amazon has a special sometimes if you buy a 3 pack.Z http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K0TA7WW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K0TA7WW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Make sure you use the funnel that comes with the car. First time I poured the bottle in and it all came out under the car from the drain hole :/
I'll find out more on Monday but Ford just ordered me a new turbo, looks like one is leaking.
Awesome :thumb: Though it would be nice to have a way to test the integrity of the turbo other than having it fizzle out completely.
The seal was leaking so Ford replaced it! Time to put the tune back in.
Quote from: BMC10SEC50 on May 08, 2015, 01:25:59 AM
The seal was leaking so Ford replaced it! Time to put the tune back in.
same way for me, remove the rear turbo and add brand new yesterday and today.
oïl leaking outside the compressor and burning oïl Inside, great job...lol
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and new turbo
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I'm sorry but this is crap. It's probably NOT the seals. My 2014 SHO had the EXACT same problems as you did when I had the catless downpipes on the car. Once I put the factory cats back on the car, the problem became minimal if not completely went away. I have another post about a theory of how there is more blow by of some sort with the reduced back pressure.
I know its not a popular theory, but my car is perfectly fine now with the factory DPs.