Just joined the forum because I might be picking up a 2013 Fusion SE 2.0T this week. I used to be heavy into cars, particularly turbo cars... Had a Talon TSi, WRX, twin-turbo C6 Corvette... All heavily modded. About 5 or 6 years ago I got completely out of cars, picked up a Civic as a commuter car for winter, and have been hooked on 2 wheels ever since. The problem now is that I need to sell the Civic and trade in my girlfriends 2013 Fiesta that she is upside down on. Obviously, Ford is going to be the most aggressive on the trade allowance, so I'm looking to see what my local dealer has in stock (g/f picked up a '14 Escape there last week). They told me they have this SE coming in the end of this week. About 30k miles, leather package, 2 liter, etc. so I started researching the car. Seems like it will fit the bill for what I need and may even be a little fun to drive with the 2.0 Ecoboost.
My question is; I had a Cobb Accessport for my WRX years ago (before I went balls out on it) and I remember it being a great value for the car's stage1 & 2 mods. If I pick this Fusion up, I'd seriously be interested in the Accessport again, as I won't be doing much to the car in terms of power mods, and looking at Steeda's site, it looks like their stage1 map is what I'd go for. So, does anyone here have 1st hand experience with the 2.0 and an Accessport??
Thanks,
Mors
Sell the Cobb and go with Livernois for the tuning. Quite a few tuned Fusion 2.0T's. Not sure if I have seen them in the 13's yet, but low 14's.
I have to ask, why are you dealing around with a GF's mess? I'd run away if she's trading in a '13 for a '14 and is way in the hole. Doesn't sound smart at all.
I'd also go for a used 201-12 SHO, I bet it isn't much more expensive than the Fusion. A nice used SHO with 40K miles can be had for $20K. Hard to beat that, other than an used Infiniti G37x maybe.
I know Livernois has been focusing on the EB.platform,and lately on the fusion,you wont regret getting a tune from them,you can email Jaimie at jtejeda@livernoismotorsports.com and he can assist you better on any questions you may have,best of luck to you and your new ride,and any questions you may have please feel free to ask.Z.
Quote from: PokerMunkee on February 25, 2015, 03:01:55 PM
Sell the Cobb and go with Livernois for the tuning. Quite a few tuned Fusion 2.0T's. Not sure if I have seen them in the 13's yet, but low 14's.
I have to ask, why are you dealing around with a GF's mess? I'd run away if she's trading in a '13 for a '14 and is way in the hole. Doesn't sound smart at all.
I'd also go for a used 201-12 SHO, I bet it isn't much more expensive than the Fusion. A nice used SHO with 40K miles can be had for $20K. Hard to beat that, other than an used Infiniti G37x maybe.
I don't have the Cobb, I said I would be interested in it. As for the trading scenario, it's complicated... We needed a larger vehicle for the family, which is why she got the Escape. As for running away, I own a house with her and have kids, so it's not exactly and option. Also, I hate cars. Really don't care for them anymore, and if I didn't need one I don't think I'd own one. So I don't want to spend more than $20k OTD. The Fusion they have coming in is $17k and will suffice. I only plan on keeping it for 5 years or so and then probably giving it to our oldest daughter.
Thanks for the input on the alternate tuner, I'll check it out.
Is the Fusion a CPO? I would def get something with a Ford warranty (b2b + ESP). That will pay for itself easily over the duration you have your ride. The SHO will function well as a DD and luggage/equipment/building materials etc hauler, in addition to a sports sedan should you change your mind. If you are mpg centric, then the Fusion will offer better numbers 22/33 vs 17/25, stock to stock. Many tuning options if & when.
Keep us updated in your quest :D
Gotcha. I've done some stupid things ($$$) with ex-girlfriends, so try to keep guys from doing the same. Kids are involved, so that's different.
For $20K OTD, probably hard to beat a '13 Fusion 2.0T then.
Definitely would do Livernois for the tune. Go on youtube, you'll find Fusion dynos and 1/4 mile runs. Definitely have some traction issues after the boost goes up.
Quote from: ZSHO on February 25, 2015, 03:35:35 PM
I know Livernois has been focusing on the EB.platform,and lately on the fusion,you wont regret getting a tune from them,you can email Jaimie at jtejeda@livernoismotorsports.com and he can assist you better on any questions you may have,best of luck to you and your new ride,and any questions you may have please feel free to ask.Z.
Thanks, I will definitely shoot him an email of I end up picking this car up.
It's funny, before this past week I never have the new Fusions a second look, but the more I see them, the more I like them. I just need a decent car to get me back and forth in the winter and on the occasional trip where I can't ride. Having it be fun to drive is a plus. I've been stuck in a '07 Civic for the past 5 years, and a Hybrid on top of it... It will be nice to not mind driving so much of this all ends up happening. The 2.0T base HP/TQ is comforting coming from a 95hp ****box.
Quote from: SHOdded on February 25, 2015, 03:59:41 PM
Is the Fusion a CPO? I would def get something with a Ford warranty (b2b + ESP). That will pay for itself easily over the duration you have your ride. The SHO will function well as a DD and luggage/equipment/building materials etc hauler, in addition to a sports sedan should you change your mind. If you are mpg centric, then the Fusion will offer better numbers 22/33 vs 17/25, stock to stock. Many tuning options if & when.
Keep us updated in your quest :D
By CPO do you mean certified? If so then it's not. It's coming straight in from auction with a minimal RO I'd imagine to keep the price down. I'll tryn beat them up on a extended warranty tho. I want to see the car first and make sure it's all good. I haven't even driven one yet. I've actually never even owned a Ford!
You can check out Ford ESP pricing online to get an idea of what to ask for. Popular online dealers include Flood Ford, Anderson Koch, Lombard Ford, etc.
http://www.FloodFordESP.com (http://www.floodfordesp.com)
http://andersonandkoch-ford-warranty.com (http://andersonandkoch-ford-warranty.com)
http://www.lombardfordwarrantys.com (http://www.lombardfordwarrantys.com)
http://www.zeiglerfordesp.com (http://www.zeiglerfordesp.com)
Thanks for all the input so far. I'm actually going to look at a used 2014 Titanium this weekend. It's got 25k and the dealer is asking $21,500 which sounds like a really good deal. I think I'm willing to pay $4k more over the SE to get a loaded AWD model and that in the long run I'll be much happier. I've never been a fan of FWD platforms, and in the past I've had a Talon TSi, WRX, and a Mazdaspeed6... so AWD turbos are in my blood! If I gotta get in a cage, might as well do it right... :coolgleam:
Find out how long car been sitting on dealers lot. ANythin over 30 days they become "desparate" to move. THen if you have access (Ido) to actual dealer pricing and wholesale cost make your deal with that info.
Bought my 2011 in 2013 for $17k. Had been on dealers lot for 3-4 months. And mine was not a Ford CPO. Didnt matter because I bought service plan through credit union which was much better anyway if needed. All cars go through certain checks anyway, you just want a reputable one that stand behind the product they sell.
The Titanium trim is NICE!
Quote from: Dxlnt1 on February 26, 2015, 08:06:10 PM
Find out how long car been sitting on dealers lot. ANythin over 30 days they become "desparate" to move. THen if you have access (Ido) to actual dealer pricing and wholesale cost make your deal with that info.
Bought my 2011 in 2013 for $17k. Had been on dealers lot for 3-4 months. And mine was not a Ford CPO. Didnt matter because I bought service plan through credit union which was much better anyway if needed. All cars go through certain checks anyway, you just want a reputable one that stand behind the product they sell.
The website I found the car on, some 3rd party listing site, says its been listed for 170 days. How accurate that is, makes me second guess, being that its a 2014 with 25k... Still, the listed price is about $4k under retail and almost $15k less than new MSRP.... The cars only a year old!
Well, 2014s started being produced in 2013, and the miles could be highway ... Check this site for production data:
www.etis.ford.com (http://www.etis.ford.com)
Quote from: SHOdded on February 26, 2015, 10:09:57 PM
Well, 2014s started being produced in 2013, and the miles could be highway ... Check this site for production data:
www.etis.ford.com (http://www.etis.ford.com)
Absolutely. Not saying its impossible, it could definitely have a 2013 build date, and have been a long distance commuter/company car or whatever. Still, $21.5 is quite a bit below book and definitely about $2-3k below what other dealers in the area are asking. I will tryn beat them up, being as I have negative equity to assume (which I will likely wash with an equal or greater down payment, unfortunately). Plus, Saturday is the last day of the month! I was in car sales for 5 years, so I know personally how bad that day sucks and how hard they tryn close out their numbers for bonuses etc. I have a realistic number in my head of where I want to be. If they're able to get me within $30 a month, I'll drive it home. All assuming that I like the car that I've yet to even drive. Been watching YouTube reviews quite a bit though, and the car seems so far to fit my bill; comfort, quality, practical tech, and a decent balance of economy/performance. I want a car I'm comfortable in, that isn't totally boring to drive. So far it seems like it should get me there...
Oh and a bonus is they have 2 to choose from, white and grey...
Good luck, bring home the Titanium on Saturday :thumb:
Best of luck to you with the new ride,and any question you may have always feel free to ask.Z.
I'd like to hear a little bit more about the MS6. XD
Quote from: IHeartGroceries on February 27, 2015, 01:15:44 PM
I'd like to hear a little bit more about the MS6. XD
It was a great car. Handling was superb. Power was adequate for its size. I drove the car as my daily for about 3 years. The car was very tight and was a blast to drive in the twisties. The only complaint I had was that I absolutely HATED the clutch. Shifter was great, but the clutch grabbed so high and was almost unpredictable. That's just me though...
Must've had a 2006 m/y then? Or very early 2007 build. Don't recall when the revision was made. There was TSB for the clutch as well. I agree...took some getting use to. Except your really couldn't ever get use to it. Lol! I'm missing mine lately. It was a fun car.
Quote from: IHeartGroceries on February 27, 2015, 04:27:18 PM
Must've had a 2006 m/y then? Or very early 2007 build. Don't recall when the revision was made. There was TSB for the clutch as well. I agree...took some getting use to. Except your really couldn't ever get use to it. Lol! I'm missing mine lately. It was a fun car.
Yes!!! That's exactly how it felt. And it was a 2006. Besides the clutch it was a great car. Managed to keep it bone stock. Bit I also had a 700hp twin turbo C6 at the time so...
EPIC FAIL!
The dealer I drove to today (an hour each way) who had 3 2014 Titaniums in stock (silver/grey/white) had them all in FWD! I'm a friggin bonehead. I knew the prices were too low to be right.
Now my local dealer has a 2013 Titanium AWD, 30k miles, but it's in Bordeaux Reserve, which is the ONE and only color I don't like on the car!!!!
Got him down to $20k, and I'd buy it today if it was any color but that. What should I do???
If its going to be used as a DD you will probably get used to it,the good part is the dealer is close by so essentially any kind of routine service needed thats a plus,tell the salesman to knock off 500.00 cause you hate the color,maybe then you will start to like it,good luck and and always feel free to ask whatever thats on your mind.Z.
Quote from: Mors Mangone on March 01, 2015, 07:06:42 AM
EPIC FAIL!
The dealer I drove to today (an hour each way) who had 3 2014 Titaniums in stock (silver/grey/white) had them all in FWD! I'm a friggin bonehead. I knew the prices were too low to be right.
Now my local dealer has a 2013 Titanium AWD, 30k miles, but it's in Bordeaux Reserve, which is the ONE and only color I don't like on the car!!!!
Got him down to $20k, and I'd buy it today if it was any color but that. What should I do???
Be patient, if there's ever a time, this is it. Definitely don't want to make a large purchase on something like a vehicle that's a color you don't want. I could see buying one missing a feature or 2, but color, that's a hard one to swallow.
Rich
Quote from: Mors Mangone on March 01, 2015, 07:06:42 AM
EPIC FAIL!
The dealer I drove to today (an hour each way) who had 3 2014 Titaniums in stock (silver/grey/white) had them all in FWD! I'm a friggin bonehead. I knew the prices were too low to be right.
Now my local dealer has a 2013 Titanium AWD, 30k miles, but it's in Bordeaux Reserve, which is the ONE and only color I don't like on the car!!!!
Got him down to $20k, and I'd buy it today if it was any color but that. What should I do???
I apologize just woke up,tell him 19k and then attempt to shake his hand!!
The car was $21,800... I got him down $1800 for the color!!!
Idk... AWD Titaniums are scarce here (weird because it should be the opposite). It's equipped the exact way I want, everything except driver assist pkg., and it's priced right. If I can just overcome the color issue.
I think the BR is the least attractive color on the car. But lowered, tinted, with the Lighting Firm HIDs and some bronze wheels... It could agree with me.
I'm gonna look again online today and see if there is anything else in the state. I do need to move somewhat fast tho.
Sounds as if the color isn't to bad. I'm not familiar with the BR color, but it seems you have found a way to work with it. With that said.....go get that thing!
Rich
Go for it! I don't think you will be staring at the color while getting on the GO pedal ;)
x2 on that,after installing your tune,mods you will be focused more on the performance of your vehicle than anything else,best of luck to you and keep us updated.
I actually sell Fords let me know if you need me to run a carfax for you I'll be back at work tomorrow. The fusions are a great dd they're not exactly fast but I think the 2.0 EB has some potential sounds like you're getting some good deals just make sure you check the carfax the cheapest deal doesn't necessarily mean the best deal.
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That is great to know VTX,being in the Ford buisiness anyone ever approach you in regards to tuning or mods after or before purchasing a vehicle,would be nice to get an inside perspective on that matter,cause fortunetly my dealer is pretty cool with mods,maybe some personal insight will help others or shed some light in how to approach this delicate matter and could benefit others,thanks.Z.
Well luckily I haven't had any misfortunes with my car yet but some of the techs know I'm tuned and I told them if it ever needs to go to service to look the other way lol. Yea I already got a few of my buddies to go see Erick from LET. Most of my co-workers are Mustang guys and are modded too.
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FYI do have a 2012 pre own SHO ;)
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Thanks for the input guys. Found another one; 2013 in white (which i like) with no nav but it only has 16k on it and is a CPO vs the ugly "eggplant" which has nav but double the miles and is non-CPO. The white one is listed at $24.5k but I'm willing to pay $21.5 vs the $20k for half the miles and the color I want. I'll be calling tomorrow.
I realize the car isn't fast, just want an AWD daily driver that's comfortable and can get out of its own way. As I mentioned, I'm coming out of a Civic hybrid, and I'm not really into cars anymore. If I wanna go fast, I hop on my stage 2 V-Rod.
I'm sure a tune would fix that "no-go-fast" problem ;)
Well I just called the dealer with the White car and they said they own it for $25k!!!!
So that's out.... Looks like the ugly eggplant is a phenomenal deal...
Quote from: viSHOusTX on March 01, 2015, 11:47:01 AM
FYI do have a 2012 pre own SHO ;)
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Where ? My bro is looking for one ... shoot me a pm
Well, I'm buying the big 🍆. Closing the deal now.
Hope everything works out smooth for you,keep us updated and hopefully some pics of the new ride.
When life gives you an🍆, you make 🍆 parmigiana! Good luck, Mors :)
Quote from: SHOdded on March 02, 2015, 07:12:24 PM
When life gives you an🍆, you make 🍆 parmigiana! Good luck, Mors :)
Hahahaaaa ain't that the truth. Thanks man. 👍
So I take delivery on Wednesday. Been a while since I had a turbo car that was decent. Here are a few I had in the past...
'03 WRX - 330 AWHP - 18g turbo, lotsa mods (back in '05 that was a lot lol)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/turb0_t0m/stage4carcopy2999.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/turb0_t0m/media/stage4carcopy2999.jpg.html)
'05 Corvette C6 - 604 RWHP - APS twin-turbo, lotsa mods
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/turb0_t0m/ICSpic2.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/turb0_t0m/media/ICSpic2.jpg.html)
'06 Mazdaspeed 6 (bone stock)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/turb0_t0m/P1010483.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/turb0_t0m/media/P1010483.jpg.html)
Started on a '90 Talon TSi (stock) and had a '91 Galant VR4 (boost controller, some minor mods). Now I'm still mostly vested in bikes, but it'll be nice to have a decent daily driver. Well, daily for 3-4 months a year anyway. Friggin winter...
Need more than 1 pic of the new ride ;)
Quote from: SHOdded on March 02, 2015, 11:37:43 PM
Need more than 1 pic of the new ride ;)
Well it's not much to look at... Be in stock and the ugliest color they make and all. But I'll post up a few on Thursday AM.
Quote from: Mors Mangone on March 03, 2015, 06:45:48 PM
Well it's not much to look at... Be in stock and the ugliest color they make and all. But I'll post up a few on Thursday AM.
Kewl :thumb:
Finally got my hands on her... Just after a little snowstorm too. Only drove about 5mi home but the car feels great.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/turb0_t0m/563528B3-C16A-493D-B0C4-9560276AB18A_zpsoni1zgzv.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/turb0_t0m/media/563528B3-C16A-493D-B0C4-9560276AB18A_zpsoni1zgzv.jpg.html)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/turb0_t0m/0838F0E7-A8DF-4D17-AA83-DE256D2D2E99_zpsusmwojbw.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/turb0_t0m/media/0838F0E7-A8DF-4D17-AA83-DE256D2D2E99_zpsusmwojbw.jpg.html)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/turb0_t0m/830D8428-6E02-4E79-8A96-E1ABFC09BC76_zpswaj2eyxj.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/turb0_t0m/media/830D8428-6E02-4E79-8A96-E1ABFC09BC76_zpswaj2eyxj.jpg.html)
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/turb0_t0m/0857966C-13E3-4A9B-BB36-98E4A55E2E0C_zpsoocljibo.jpg) (http://s25.photobucket.com/user/turb0_t0m/media/0857966C-13E3-4A9B-BB36-98E4A55E2E0C_zpsoocljibo.jpg.html)
Got to test it out the very first day :) Congrats again, and enjoy!
Congrats on the new ride and best of luck,BTW did it come with the oem tires on there,was curious to know considering the snow and all.
Quote from: SHOdded on March 05, 2015, 05:16:30 PM
Got to test it out the very first day :) Congrats again, and enjoy!
Haha yep I did, and it did great. Didn't get to play at all tho, and with my luck this looks like the last snowfall of the season, 40's all next week. We will see tho...
Quote from: ZSHO on March 05, 2015, 07:11:38 PM
Congrats on the new ride and best of luck,BTW did it come with the oem tires on there,was curious to know considering the snow and all.
Thanks. Have to look. The carfax shows the tires were changed at trade in, so all I know is that they are new...