So this morning my SHO wouldn't start. It was -4 last night and as I was rolling into work the low gas indicator came on. Otherwise it was normal. This morning I went to start it and it would turn over, it just wouldn't catch. The battery started to get run down so we attached jumper cables and it started but it was running very rough . Then suddenly I start seeming a yellow wrench on the left tft display. I turned it off and had to leave it at work. Not much to go on but does anyone have any ideas?
When you tried to start it this morning was the car still on empty?with such cold conditions and leaving the car on empty is not a good thing in general,probably the fuel system is frozen because gas being on empty,try to grab a bottle of heet to add in the gas,also would check the battery voltage,the oem battery has a short lifespan,changed mine in october under warranty to an upgraded BXT-65-850 which is a better and more powerful battery with more cca.
Good thought.. I grab 5 gal of gas and some heet and put in the tank. But it wasn't quite empty.. Just low.
Quote from: ZSHO on February 15, 2015, 10:26:03 AM
When you tried to start it this morning was the car still on empty?with such cold conditions and leaving the car on empty is not a good thing in general,probably the fuel system is frozen because gas being on empty,try to grab a bottle of heet to add in the gas.
Any chance of pulling a code from it?
Rich
Quote from: SHOnUup on February 15, 2015, 10:32:19 AM
Any chance of pulling a code from it?
Rich
I can when I get back to work tonight. I had to get home and get some sleep before my shift tonight (I'm an ER veterinarian).
Quote from: twnscrw13 on February 15, 2015, 10:41:33 AM
Quote from: SHOnUup on February 15, 2015, 10:32:19 AM
Any chance of pulling a code from it?
Rich
I can when I get back to work tonight. I had to get home and get some sleep before my shift tonight (I'm an ER veterinarian).
Definitely get that rest, them animals need to care too. ;)
Adding fuel can't hurt, but that code is key, if retrievable.
Rich
Between a new battery and water treatment for the gas tank (condensation from air too) I think the situation will be handled. Good luck, hope you can get back 100% to focusing on your occupation :)
One thing the old man always told me was to never leave your gas lower than a quarter of a tank,especially in sub-freezing weather,now with lower gas prices try to keep her full for many reasons.
Quote from: ZSHO on February 15, 2015, 11:42:48 AM
One thing the old man always told me was to never leave your gas lower than a quarter of a tank,especially in sub-freezing weather,now with lower gas prices try to keep her full for many reasons.
And you were actually listening :thumb:
Quote from: SHOdded on February 15, 2015, 11:46:24 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on February 15, 2015, 11:42:48 AM
One thing the old man always told me was to never leave your gas lower than a quarter of a tank,especially in sub-freezing weather,now with lower gas prices try to keep her full for many reasons.
And you were actually listening :thumb:
Only until a few years ago.LOL.
It's probably due to that crappy 3 Bar tune......Just kidding! LOL....Op you said it wasn't empty just low...Well if the gas light came on it was REALLY low...I think you just had some condensation and need a fill up
Quote from: ajpturbo on February 15, 2015, 11:59:56 AM
It's probably due to that crappy 3 Bar tune......Just kidding! LOL....Op you said it wasn't empty just low...Well if the gas light came on it was REALLY low...I think you just had some condensation and need a fill up
I was personally ready to give you a thank you and maybe even a HUG,its all good,Z. I guess the combo of having a gallon of gas left with -4 degree temps,go figure!
Mine wouldn't start today either at 2 degrees....I posted in another thread where someone elses car wouldn't start.....I'm starting to think these batteries are just s***...Not surprised, the sub 0 temps are weeding out these weak batteries
No cranking at all, or slow cranking? Batteries need to be professionally tested. Remote possibility of starter involvement if battery/fuel level are ruled out.
Slow cranking for me. Mine is clearly battery related. THis is the coldest temp I've ever attempted to start mine in
New battery as of this past November. Hopefully the heet and some gas will do it.
Quote from: twnscrw13 on February 15, 2015, 04:50:26 PM
New battery as of this past November. Hopefully the heet and some gas will do it.
New from Ford? Do you know what battery model you have?
Also I see that you have some amps and stereo upgrade...That stuff is more taxing of the battery and charging system...Espcially if you have that crappy OE low cranking amp one that people have been talking about....I want that 850cc battery from Ford if they are giving them out
Quote from: ajpturbo on February 15, 2015, 04:58:39 PM
Quote from: twnscrw13 on February 15, 2015, 04:50:26 PM
New battery as of this past November. Hopefully the heet and some gas will do it.
New from Ford? Do you know what battery model you have?
Also I see that you have some amps and stereo upgrade...That stuff is more taxing of the battery and charging system...Espcially if you have that crappy OE low cranking amp one that people have been talking about....I want that 850cc battery from Ford if they are giving them out
It is an OE batter from the Ford Dealer. I'm not sure what the cranking amps on it is. I'm guessing it was similar to the old one. I'll check that when I get into work. I had thought about getting a higher amp battery but the folks that installed my stereo said I wasn't at that point yet. I may just go ahead and do it this spring, regardless.
Quote from: SHOdded on February 15, 2015, 04:42:24 PM
No cranking at all, or slow cranking? Batteries need to be professionally tested. Remote possibility of starter involvement if battery/fuel level are ruled out.
Slow cranking for me but wouldn't start until I hooked up the jumper cables, then it turned over and had the problems I mentioned
I am usually on top of the latest TSB'S on the SHO,just been feeling under the weather,another possibility could pertain to either this post or the other one,hope it helps, TSB #TSB-13-9-8
NHTSA ID #10054323
Date Announced:
SEPTEMBER 09 2013
Additional Info:
How to Fix
Summary: LINCOLN/FORD: DUE TO DIAGNOSTIC TROUBLE CODES (DTC) P0106, P0236, ENGINE ON SOME VEHICLES EXPERIENCE HESITATION, LOSS OF IDLE RPM, DIFFICULT IN STARTING, LACK OF POWER, RUNNING ROUGH AND CRANK NO START SITUATION. MODEL 2013-2014 TAURUS, E
Ok update. First thank you everyone that replied and helped me out.
DTC's:B1215 b11d9 u3003 c101a
The car started up after 4 gal of gas and a can of heet. Seems to be running normally. I cleared the codes and I'm running it for 10 min or so.
Hopefully its a permanent fix especially in your field which combined with the cold weather makes it that much harder on things,hopefully she will treat you right in order to rescue those poor animals from the cold,keep us updated.
Codes are fairly vague, b11d9 and u3003 point to Battery and Battery voltage respectively. B1215 is a running board lamp circuit error, and the c101a is a vacuum pressure sensor error. I would clear codes, then pull codes again after a couple of days to see of they recur.
In relations to this post and the other one,probably will be more beneficial to not use the remote start during real cold weather or if you notice its having a tough time starting,i think not only do you use up more gas but also consume more power from the battery using the remote start,just a thought until possibly you can upgrade to stronger battery with more cca,especially with this deep arctic cold,theres also a 24hr hotline number inside your owners booklet incase you get stuck.