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Title: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: brandont on December 01, 2014, 09:53:07 AM
I had to get my car towed to the dealership last wednesday. They just told me I had a hole in yhe transfer case.... anyone else heard of this????? I have 53k on the car
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOdded on December 01, 2014, 10:06:39 AM
Wow, sorry to hear.  First time I've heard of this particular issue on the SHO.
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: brandont on December 01, 2014, 10:08:33 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on December 01, 2014, 10:06:39 AM
Wow, sorry to hear.  First time I've heard of this particular issue on the SHO.
Ya me either but it must be covered under warranty. They ordered a whole new pto without calling me first
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOnUup on December 01, 2014, 10:23:52 AM
Crazy, hope it gets fixed quickly and should be covered by the 60k drive train warranty.

Is yours a PP (on tapatalk) with the cooler?

Rich

Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: brandont on December 01, 2014, 10:26:00 AM
Quote from: SHOnUup on December 01, 2014, 10:23:52 AM
Crazy, hope it gets fixed quickly and should be covered by the 60k drive train warranty.

Is yours a PP (on tapatalk) with the cooler?

Rich
What do you mean on tapatalk? And no mine isnt
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOdded on December 01, 2014, 10:26:23 AM
At least that's a relief!  Press 'em for any details you can get :)  Could just be the statistical anomaly that landed in YOUR car.

Tapatalk doesn't display sigs, so Rich didn't know if yours was listed as a PP SHO.
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOnUup on December 01, 2014, 10:28:22 AM
Tapatalk is an app that allows easy access and use of the forum via a phone or tablet. Much easier to upload pics this way and the app makes it easier to read on the portable devices, instead of the Web page look on their small screens.

Tapatalk doesn't bring up people's sigs though, so I can't see the details of your car.

Rich

Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: brandont on December 01, 2014, 10:29:13 AM
Gotcha. Ya I only use tapatalk so I hadn't a clue.
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOnUup on December 01, 2014, 10:32:29 AM
If on your desktop or laptop, basically everyone has a list of mods done to car, details of year and NON/PP, and most have times they've posted at the dragstrip.

Did you ever check the fluid in it?

Rich

Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOnUup on December 01, 2014, 10:33:44 AM
I recall you having shifting issues before?

May have found the root to your problems .

Rich

Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: brandont on December 01, 2014, 10:38:35 AM
Quote from: SHOnUup on December 01, 2014, 10:33:44 AM
I recall you having shifting issues before?

May have found the root to your problems .

Rich
The shifting issues were resolved with a different tune. And also when I messed with shift hardness I couldn't increase or I would run into that problem again. As long as it was around stock or around little better it easy fine
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOnUup on December 01, 2014, 10:43:43 AM
Leads me to believe this was your issue. You went from Livernois to Torrie?



Rich

Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: brandont on December 01, 2014, 10:46:54 AM
Yes but haven't had the problem in a while
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: brandont on December 01, 2014, 10:51:28 AM
I guess there was a big hole.... they could see the gears
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOnUup on December 01, 2014, 10:55:36 AM
Did you get to return it to stock tune before it going in?

Rich

Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: brandont on December 01, 2014, 10:57:51 AM
No. The dealership knows it's tuned. Being as it's been in before for the axles popping out... which there was a recall on. But I have a 3 bar so I can't run a stock tune
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: wasinger3000 on December 01, 2014, 11:01:50 AM
Quote from: brandont on December 01, 2014, 10:57:51 AM
No. The dealership knows it's tuned. Being as it's been in before for the axles popping out... which there was a recall on. But I have a 3 bar so I can't run a stock tune
It's easy to swap in the 2 bar. I keep mine in the trunk incase of issues.
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOnUup on December 01, 2014, 11:03:54 AM
Carry my 2 bar in car with tool to change...just in case

Rich

Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: brandont on December 01, 2014, 11:14:03 AM
Ya not sure what happened to mine lol
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: IHeartGroceries on December 01, 2014, 12:24:43 PM
Is your car Performance Package equipped? Have you ever service the PTU with fresh lube?

It's not surprising, really. I'm sure your PTU just cooked its oil, like they seem to unanimously do, and with completely degradation of the oil, the bearings overheated and failed. When a case fails outright, isn't uncommon for them to essentially explode. The carnage from the PTO failure in my Speed6 was quite spectacular.

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Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: brandont on December 01, 2014, 01:12:49 PM
No. Never heard of doing that :( is there any right up on doing it available?
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOdded on December 01, 2014, 02:02:06 PM
No writeup for the 2013+ yet.  The PP has cooling and temp monitoring, must have failed somewhere along there.
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: Silkysmooth02 on December 01, 2014, 02:13:47 PM
Scary, kinda reminds me of my 92MTX SHO that ejected the differential pin out of the transaxle case.
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOdded on December 01, 2014, 02:20:19 PM
Maybe a good weld job would work here too!
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: IHeartGroceries on December 01, 2014, 02:21:52 PM
OP, I see now that you mentioned in an earlier post that your SHO is not equipped with the Performance Package.

Only the PP PTU has a temp sensor, right?

So, it is likely that there wasn't any aux cooling to save the bearings, and no sensor to trip a dummy light.

@SHOdded, there IS a write up out there for non PP cars, right?

Seems more and more like servicing the PTU is becoming an imperative maintenance item, particularly on non PP (or pre 13 PP?) equipped SHOs.

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Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOdded on December 01, 2014, 04:27:41 PM
For 2010-12 non-PP, yes there is a writeup, although probably same for PP for same MYs.
http://ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,1706.0.html (http://ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,1706.0.html)
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: IHeartGroceries on December 01, 2014, 04:45:52 PM
Still something I am unsure about - did the pre 13 PPs have the aux cooling on the PTUs? Or is that just 13+?

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Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOdded on December 02, 2014, 12:06:49 AM
Just 13+.
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: MDesign Performance on December 05, 2014, 07:11:48 PM
Seems like it doesn't matter, a member with a 2013 PP just had his PTU fail.
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: brandont on December 06, 2014, 11:40:08 AM
Quote from: Spartn27 on December 05, 2014, 07:11:48 PM
Seems like it doesn't matter, a member with a 2013 PP just had his PTU fail.
Are you talking about rich?
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: IHeartGroceries on December 06, 2014, 11:44:08 AM
May be right. That's pretty sad, seeing as there hasn't been any success swapping in fresh fluid on the PP 13 plus.

I guess I'll finally have to break down, dig in and figure something out. No pun intended.

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Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOnUup on December 06, 2014, 12:40:09 PM
Isn't the issue with the fill plug being on top in the 13+ pp?

Rich

Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: SHOdded on December 06, 2014, 01:03:23 PM
Quote from: IHeartGroceries on December 06, 2014, 11:44:08 AM
I guess I'll finally have to break down, dig in and figure something out.
Please do!
Title: Re: 2013 taurus sho hole in transfer case
Post by: MDesign Performance on December 06, 2014, 02:56:01 PM
Quote from: brandont on December 06, 2014, 11:40:08 AM
Quote from: Spartn27 on December 05, 2014, 07:11:48 PM
Seems like it doesn't matter, a member with a 2013 PP just had his PTU fail.
Are you talking about rich?

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