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Title: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: Poppy on October 30, 2014, 06:40:17 PM

I'm thinking of getting the 3 bar, but what does it do better than the 2 bar?

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: glock-coma on October 30, 2014, 06:46:23 PM

When you have a tune your max boost pressure will more than likely be above 14.7 psi.
The 2 bar sensor will only read to 14.7 psi.
The 3 bar allows the computer to "see" the higher psi.
If your stock you cannot run a 3 bar sensor. The car will not run properly with it.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: SHOdded on October 30, 2014, 06:51:14 PM

x2. These measurements are over and above atmospheric pressure, which is 14.7 psi or 1 bar. Hence the term 2 bar (atmospheric + 1), and 3 bar (atmospheric + 2).

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: Poppy on October 30, 2014, 06:57:01 PM

Ah, so if I want the 3 bar, then I have to get the tune too.

Thanks Glock & SHO

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: noidster on October 31, 2014, 12:55:21 AM

So are there any power gains? smoother running? etc.....

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: vernonator on October 31, 2014, 08:28:26 AM

Quote from: Poppy on October 30, 2014, 06:57:01 PM
Ah, so if I want the 3 bar, then I have to get the tune too.

Thanks Glock & SHO

GET THE TUNE!!!!! You will NOT be sorry.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: donky4444 on October 31, 2014, 09:43:12 AM

Quote from: vernonator on October 31, 2014, 08:28:26 AM
Quote from: Poppy on October 30, 2014, 06:57:01 PM
Ah, so if I want the 3 bar, then I have to get the tune too.

Thanks Glock & SHO

GET THE TUNE!!!!! You will NOT be sorry.

I second this. I went from the 2bar with LME 4+ tune with a best E/T of 13.23 to the 3bar LME 4x tune and a best E/T of 12.75.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: Poppy on October 31, 2014, 10:42:46 AM

Thanks Guy's!

I'll get the tune, with the 3 bar.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: SHOdded on October 31, 2014, 12:10:48 PM

I think you are about an hour from Torrie (Unleashed Tuning). You could pick up the 3bar in person and talk with da man :thumb:

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: noidster on October 31, 2014, 05:39:21 PM

So what are the mods required/suggested to get any benefit out of a 3 bar.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: SHOdded on October 31, 2014, 05:45:33 PM

Tune is the only requirement to allow the 3 bar to work correctly. For the tune, you should have new or newish spark plugs gapped at what the tuner wants (0.030 or 0.028). A cooler thermostat is also very beneficial for these higher performance tunes. That's about it!

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: Poppy on October 31, 2014, 05:50:41 PM

Thanks SHO...

I'll look into what you said.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: mystery101 on December 09, 2014, 01:48:31 PM

Been looking into the 3bar recently myself, I have a tune by torrie but he doesn't stock the sensor locally (Drat).. Also poppy you live in Ormond? I'm a mail carrier in Ormond, I think I may have seen you XD..

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: peppelepugh on December 09, 2014, 03:27:24 PM

not to steal the thread here. I'll be in New Smyrna Beach from the 26th till the 3rd roughly. Any 1/4 mile tracks open down there? I'm getting my tune and parts installed next week and will probably be itching to see what kinda times I will finally run.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: mystery101 on December 09, 2014, 04:44:43 PM

Closest here is OSW http://www.raceosw.com/dragway/ (http://www.raceosw.com/dragway/) I've been meaning to go there on Saturday nights and funday Sunday but every time I get sat night off and Sunday off it rains out or inconvenient for me. If your looking for a mixed car meet/show there's one every Thursday night around 9:30-10pm in Daytona Beach behind the Steak N Shake / Burlington parking lot @ 1000 west international blvd I go there every week just because the honda's, mustangs and chargers keep trying with me XD

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: peppelepugh on December 09, 2014, 04:52:13 PM

Quote from: mystery101 on December 09, 2014, 04:44:43 PM
Closest here is OSW http://www.raceosw.com/dragway/ (http://www.raceosw.com/dragway/) I've been meaning to go there on Saturday nights and funday Sunday but every time I get sat night off and Sunday off it rains out or inconvenient for me. If your looking for a mixed car meet/show there's one every Thursday night around 9:30-10pm in Daytona Beach behind the Steak N Shake / Burlington parking lot @ 1000 west international blvd I go there every week just because the honda's, mustangs and chargers keep trying with me XD

oh now that just sounds FUN! haha. well being thursday is new years day, i hope the turnout will be good. If i'm back from orlando by then, i just have to make a trip up! haha

Title: Re: What's the difference between the 2 bar and 3 bar?
Post by: mystery101 on December 09, 2014, 05:43:47 PM

Idk about the turnout but it was packed on thanksgiving then it continued friday night and sat night cause of the turkey rod run.
Saturday turkey rod cancer run protest cause the cops were trying to clear it out cause it was so packed:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=668076016645465&fref=nf (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=668076016645465&fref=nf)

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