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Title: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on August 15, 2014, 12:34:05 PM
I'm looking at some new brakes (Rotors and Pads) for my 2011 SHO. Factory ones are starting to vibrate a lot when slowing down from high speeds and its getting old... fast.

I'm pretty sure i want to go with RED or YELLOW EBC brake pads, but i'm looking to see what you guys recommend for Rotors?

I don't take my SHO to the track, but I do enjoy an agressive drive every now and again. Plus the 5 o'clock rush hour traffic is bad with bumper to bumper fast stop and go.  I was looking around at the StopTech Slotted rotors, but i'm only finding the Slotted and Drilled. Should I be worried about the drilled rotors based on my driving style?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: mval on August 15, 2014, 12:42:08 PM
pe:
from what i researched on a dd when i was looking about a year ago, the drilled over time could weaken rotor plus make a lot more noise. i've had ebc slotted w/ red pads on for over a year & like the setup very much. also the red portion of pad shows very little & if you wanted to be anal you could paint that portion with black calipher paint.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on August 15, 2014, 01:08:58 PM
Thanks for the heads up. If i can't get slotted only all around (only seeing rears on most sites online), I'm looking at one of the 2 sets below

http://www.carid.com/2011-ford-taurus-performance-brake-rotors/ebc-rk-series-replacement-brake-rotors-4039775.html (http://www.carid.com/2011-ford-taurus-performance-brake-rotors/ebc-rk-series-replacement-brake-rotors-4039775.html)

http://www.carid.com/2011-ford-taurus-brake-parts/centric-premium-brake-rotor-18820294.html (http://www.carid.com/2011-ford-taurus-brake-parts/centric-premium-brake-rotor-18820294.html)

Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: crash712us on August 15, 2014, 01:33:57 PM
I have nothing but good things to say about EBC. There rotors are of very good cast iron, I've have mine for over 3yrs and very little rust on hat or vents. Most other rotor are literally rusting to pieces by now. And they non slotted rotors as well.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on August 15, 2014, 01:55:06 PM
Thanks for the info Crash! Thats what i'm ideally looking for. Something that lasts!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: mval on August 15, 2014, 02:49:40 PM
pe:
I have ebc slotted all the way around. I know i paid more but got from
ebcrotors.com to make sure that i got the right ones & they had stock. some of the places that deal in ebc are cheaper  but don't stock. chris is very knowledgeable about our sho, so when i bought mine i took into account that he had them.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHO-TYM on August 15, 2014, 04:06:49 PM
OK, so I went to EBC website to check out their options, and I added ultimax rotors all around and red pads all around for a whopping $755.xx....... so I went to Amazon and typed in each model # and added the same things to my cart and I got a total of $568.xx..... on ECB website it says that those part #'s will fit my 2011 SHO, but when I go to Amazon, it says that it will not fit my car.  I was hoping someone could shed some light on the subject so I can hopefully save $200.00
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on August 15, 2014, 04:58:28 PM
^^^^^^ I was just going to post this!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^

my theory is that is part numbers line up, we're gonna have a good day. lol.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHO-TYM on August 15, 2014, 05:28:53 PM
Quote from: peppelepugh on August 15, 2014, 04:58:28 PM
^^^^^^ I was just going to post this!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^

my theory is that is part numbers line up, we're gonna have a good day. lol.

Exactly.... if part #'s match..... there should be no reason they won't fit.... and we save $200.... seems like a no brainer. :-) Looks like I am going Shopping
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHO-TYM on August 15, 2014, 05:33:05 PM
Order placed.... I guess I can be the Guinea pig in this case and see if these things fit! :) haha. I sure hope so!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: glock-coma on August 15, 2014, 06:16:31 PM
Just a heads up.

Here are the 2 different ebc red stuff pads

Top is non performance package

Bottom is performance package.

My 2010 did not have pp but the pp pads work just fine.

Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on August 15, 2014, 06:19:58 PM
Awesome! Can't wait to see the results. I've got to wait a week anyways before I can order mine....boooo!!!!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: glock-coma on August 15, 2014, 06:20:23 PM
Here's a pic of the rear installed

Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: glock-coma on August 15, 2014, 06:22:15 PM
Please stay away from autoplicity!! Many bad reviews from this forum alone.
Auto anything is good to go, they will price match just about anyone.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 15, 2014, 09:31:45 PM
Looks like 4dr needs to get some brake parts on EPP....
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on August 16, 2014, 03:15:40 AM
ideally if autoanything will match autoplicity, i'm good. i've found these (http://autoplicity.com/products/4252461-ebc_s4kf1273.aspx (http://autoplicity.com/products/4252461-ebc_s4kf1273.aspx)) & (http://autoplicity.com/products/4252917-ebc_s4kr1204.aspx (http://autoplicity.com/products/4252917-ebc_s4kr1204.aspx))which i plan on ordering in the next week or so. but if autoanything will match it. I'll just go with them.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: glock-coma on August 16, 2014, 06:35:54 AM
Their estimated ship date is bs, so are all the great reviews about the customer service.
When I didn't receive my brakes for about a month I asked to cancel my order..... Took almost another month to get my money back. And that's with me getting  paypal involved. ....., you've been warned....stay far far away from   Autoplicity.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: glock-coma on August 16, 2014, 06:38:12 AM
Autoplicity.com = Avoid http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=3147
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: J-Will on August 16, 2014, 08:44:36 AM
Are you sure there is no difference in the pads? The pistons still hit center of the pad?

It just seems that there is a clear difference in shape. On the other hand, I thought the pp only got a rotor upgrade.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: glock-coma on August 16, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
PP only had a pad upgrade. 

I've got about 3k on my current  setup with no problems. 
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: jtoddk98 on August 16, 2014, 12:20:42 PM
I'd get the EBC slotted brakes. I got mine from autoplicity.com. Love the setup, much better then the stock ones.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: J-Will on August 16, 2014, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on August 16, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
PP only had a pad upgrade. 

I've got about 3k on my current  setup with no problems.
Not even the calipers?
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: curry67 on August 16, 2014, 05:07:14 PM
Quote from: J-Will on August 16, 2014, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on August 16, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
PP only had a pad upgrade. 

I've got about 3k on my current  setup with no problems.
Not even the calipers?

most disappointing part of the car. I do believe the 2014/15 have some killer brakes now i remember some ford guy telling me at a car show.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 16, 2014, 05:11:49 PM
Quote from: curry67 on August 16, 2014, 05:07:14 PM
Quote from: J-Will on August 16, 2014, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on August 16, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
PP only had a pad upgrade. 

I've got about 3k on my current  setup with no problems.
Not even the calipers?

most disappointing part of the car. I do believe the 2014/15 have some killer brakes now i remember some ford guy telling me at a car show.
I test drove a cinnamon 2010 but walked away due to the brakes.

2013+ are fantastic.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: curry67 on August 16, 2014, 05:13:24 PM
It seems to most economical solution is ebc red with ultimax slotted or on the expensive end wilwoods seem the best bet but the cost of that seemed in the extremes to me.

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Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: curry67 on August 16, 2014, 05:13:56 PM
I'm gonna try pp pads in front on my non pp as apparently its the same

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Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: glock-coma on August 16, 2014, 06:15:50 PM
2013+ have a different brake booster/ master cylinder.

Which completely changes pedal feel 
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: curry67 on August 18, 2014, 12:50:33 AM
How much does it cost to redo brakes entirely? Think I've seen some wilwood set ups with new master cylinders.

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Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: crash712us on August 18, 2014, 07:17:44 AM
4-5k


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Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on August 18, 2014, 04:16:40 PM
Anyone ever order from http://www.placeforbrakes.com/index.php (http://www.placeforbrakes.com/index.php) ?
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on August 20, 2014, 01:04:18 PM
Ended up going with "PlaceForBrakes" got the Stage 4 set (EBC Slotted with Red Pads) for front and back for around 570. Got the official invoice today and seems that the rear pads are on backorder from the UK. 3 week wait. I also heard the same with EBCRotors if i'm not mistaken also.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOdded on August 20, 2014, 03:08:23 PM
Fingers crossed ...
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: moem1090 on August 20, 2014, 05:53:40 PM
I did PowerStop drilled and slotted front and rear rotors and Akebonos for the pads and I love them so far. No noise, excellent braking, no brake dust. PLUS.. they are easier to warranty if there are issues so consider that also. Good luck!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on August 20, 2014, 09:32:15 PM
Quote from: moem1090 on August 20, 2014, 05:53:40 PM
I did PowerStop drilled and slotted front and rear rotors and Akebonos for the pads and I love them so far. No noise, excellent braking, no brake dust. PLUS.. they are easier to warranty if there are issues so consider that also. Good luck!
What year?

I'm considering the Powerstop "Top Cop" package, any specific details on your experience would be appreciated.

Also please update your signature line with the pertinent details of your ride.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: shoman04 on August 20, 2014, 09:39:27 PM
Quote from: moem1090 on August 20, 2014, 05:53:40 PM
I did PowerStop drilled and slotted front and rear rotors and Akebonos for the pads and I love them so far. No noise, excellent braking, no brake dust. PLUS.. they are easier to warranty if there are issues so consider that also. Good luck!
di-do I LOVE MY POWERSTOP. I got 24kmile out of the Stock brakes and I have 70k now with only 50% pad where.

NEW
(http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/gallery/55_21_06_13_1_14_31.jpeg)

POWERSTOP 40K MILES LATER
(http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/gallery/55_20_09_13_3_37_43.jpeg)
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHO-TYM on August 21, 2014, 01:02:16 PM
Quote from: peppelepugh on August 20, 2014, 01:04:18 PM
Ended up going with "PlaceForBrakes" got the Stage 4 set (EBC Slotted with Red Pads) for front and back for around 570. Got the official invoice today and seems that the rear pads are on backorder from the UK. 3 week wait. I also heard the same with EBCRotors if i'm not mistaken also.
Lame! I ordered last Friday from amazon and got everything shipped and to my door Tuesday. EBC slotted rotors and pads front and back. 
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: vernonator on August 21, 2014, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: SHO-TYM on August 21, 2014, 01:02:16 PM
Quote from: peppelepugh on August 20, 2014, 01:04:18 PM
Ended up going with "PlaceForBrakes" got the Stage 4 set (EBC Slotted with Red Pads) for front and back for around 570. Got the official invoice today and seems that the rear pads are on backorder from the UK. 3 week wait. I also heard the same with EBCRotors if i'm not mistaken also.
Lame! I ordered last Friday from amazon and got everything shipped and to my door Tuesday. EBC slotted rotors and pads front and back.

Got any links to said Amazon products?
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHO-TYM on August 21, 2014, 04:57:29 PM
I just went to EBC website, and then found which parts went to my car, and then copied and pasted into amazon. I will try and find the links when I get out of work
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: curry67 on August 21, 2014, 09:59:25 PM
Quote from: peppelepugh on August 20, 2014, 01:04:18 PM
Ended up going with "PlaceForBrakes" got the Stage 4 set (EBC Slotted with Red Pads) for front and back for around 570. Got the official invoice today and seems that the rear pads are on backorder from the UK. 3 week wait. I also heard the same with EBCRotors if i'm not mistaken also.

thats a hell of a deal i might get those myself.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: shoman04 on August 22, 2014, 05:39:23 AM
Here a good price on the PowerStop at AutoAnything.
http://b.cdnbrm.com/images/products/schem/powerstop/large/power_stop_brake_kit_front_and_rear.jpg (http://b.cdnbrm.com/images/products/schem/powerstop/large/power_stop_brake_kit_front_and_rear.jpg)
http://www.autoanything.com/brakes/61A5870A0A0.aspx (http://www.autoanything.com/brakes/61A5870A0A0.aspx)
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Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: ZSHO on August 22, 2014, 07:29:17 AM
AT AutoAnything from my past experience that they would knock of 10-15% off the price if you speak with a representative over the phone at the time of taking you order and verifying fitment to play it safe,PP OR NON PP.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on August 22, 2014, 08:34:18 AM
urgh.... lucky you SHO-TYM!!!! the fronts will be in tuesday, then the back set won't be in till who knows.... DAG NABBIT!!!!! might as well just wait to put em all on at the same time, then i won't have to play the "brake in period game" twice. lol
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: shoman04 on August 22, 2014, 09:01:23 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on August 22, 2014, 07:29:17 AM
AT AutoAnything from my past experience that they would knock of 10-15% off the price if you speak with a representative over the phone at the time of taking you order and verifying fitment to play it safe,PP OR NON PP.
My car is a PP but the nonPP BRAKES are the same but for the up-graded pads! The PowerStop are a 1000s time better than the stock PP!!!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: ZSHO on August 22, 2014, 09:51:51 PM
They look good on there SHOMAN04,what are the pads semimetallic or ceramic and how about the dust levels,i like the slotted and drilled combo compared to the drilled which are vulnerable to cracking??
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: ZSHO on August 22, 2014, 10:05:14 PM
Quote from: moem1090 on August 20, 2014, 05:53:40 PM
I did PowerStop drilled and slotted front and rear rotors and Akebonos for the pads and I love them so far. No noise, excellent braking, no brake dust. PLUS.. they are easier to warranty if there are issues so consider that also. Good luck!
Thats the same setup which i had on my other car,great stopping power and very quiet and very low dust on the ceramic pads,compared to the oem which get dirty after a week of washing them,good choice.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on August 25, 2014, 09:56:28 AM
Fronts come in tomorrow! I have a feeling i might just wait to put them on once the rears come in (still on back order) after reading this article http://www.ebcredstuff.com/bedding_in_ebc_brake_pads.html (http://www.ebcredstuff.com/bedding_in_ebc_brake_pads.html)
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: curry67 on August 25, 2014, 08:52:53 PM
Quote from: peppelepugh on August 25, 2014, 09:56:28 AM
Fronts come in tomorrow! I have a feeling i might just wait to put them on once the rears come in (still on back order) after reading this article http://www.ebcredstuff.com/bedding_in_ebc_brake_pads.html (http://www.ebcredstuff.com/bedding_in_ebc_brake_pads.html)

keep up with the updates your my trial run as i plan on getting same brakes from that supplier need to find a freight forwarder though
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on August 26, 2014, 09:11:07 AM
Also keep tabs with "SHO-TYM" he already got his set in. I'm not too sure how it all works with shipping to Canada. But I can tell you was shipping was free for me, VIA UPS, From Las Vegas, NV.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHO-TYM on August 26, 2014, 09:31:09 AM
I am planning on putting the new rotors and brakes on this afternoon as long as my plans don't change. I have been really busy lately, and haven't had time to knock this out. but it is killing me to look over in the living room and see 4 boxes of goodies begging me to put them on..... SO I will keep everone updated with pictures, before and after.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on August 26, 2014, 10:57:39 AM
Please do, figure the front will take about an hour or so. But i'm unsure on how long the back's will take. Given the E-brake/parking brake has been a royal pain for me in the past on other vehicles.

Regardless, I'm quite giddy right now to see how it turns out!!!!!!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: Brucelinc on August 26, 2014, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: peppelepugh on August 26, 2014, 10:57:39 AM
Please do, figure the front will take about an hour or so. But i'm unsure on how long the back's will take. Given the E-brake/parking brake has been a royal pain for me in the past on other vehicles.

Regardless, I'm quite giddy right now to see how it turns out!!!!!!

Having the appropriate tool to turn the piston and press it in at the same time makes changing the rears as easy as the front.   
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: curry67 on August 26, 2014, 10:08:57 PM
Quote from: peppelepugh on August 26, 2014, 09:11:07 AM
Also keep tabs with "SHO-TYM" he already got his set in. I'm not too sure how it all works with shipping to Canada. But I can tell you was shipping was free for me, VIA UPS, From Las Vegas, NV.

apparently i need to find a freight forwarder. I dunno whats up with that but 650 is just crazy good for me. when i price it out else where its 850-1200 atleast. Ive noticed my brake feel is a little weird like a rotor is out of wack so i wanna fix it before the winter
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHO-TYM on August 27, 2014, 12:30:13 AM
Just a heads up, just realized that my amazon pads ended up being for the pp SHO.... I looked at my new rotors after my test drive, and the pads aren't touching the whole rotor.... the pads have a different shape. I don't know if this is a bad thing or not.... (http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/08/26/a27e0f8ad85f03c593056b93ff4f4f8b.jpg)
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Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: glock-coma on August 27, 2014, 07:33:09 AM
I have the same setup.
No problems here.


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Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on August 27, 2014, 07:59:38 AM
How did they feel when stopping?
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: ZSHO on August 27, 2014, 08:05:16 AM
EBC REDSTUFF PADS for non PP #DP-31873C---PP SHO#DP-31767C.,,ITS AMAZING HOW MUCH CHEAPER THE PP PADS ARE THAN NON PP.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHO-TYM on August 27, 2014, 08:56:13 AM
Quote from: SHOnUup on August 27, 2014, 07:59:38 AM
How did they feel when stopping?
They feel ok when stopping, there is a slight squeel when I start applying brakes.... but other than that, they feel even and strong.

Quote from: ZSHO on August 27, 2014, 08:05:16 AM
EBC REDSTUFF PADS for non PP #DP-31873C---PP SHO#DP-31767C.,,ITS AMAZING HOW MUCH CHEAPER THE PP PADS ARE THAN NON PP.

It is a little crazy that the non PP pads have more surface area than the non PP pad.... seems like that should be the other way around.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on August 27, 2014, 09:03:58 AM
Maybe that top layer is just a little thicker on one side. I imagine the side showing more use is the side that meets the spinning rotor first. If they're stopping decent with no pull, not broke don't fix it? Lol
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: ZSHO on August 27, 2014, 09:21:01 AM
If they stop fine and there is no pull i wouldnt worry,there is always going to be an uneven side when rubbing against the rotor,until you break them in,visit EBC site for break in and bedding procedure,thats why you have the squeak,make sure not to stop completly when doing the process,good luck.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: glock-coma on August 27, 2014, 11:44:17 AM
That's actually my pic I took of  the difference in pads.
I thought it was strange also, they will squeal/rattle a little until bedded or broken in. Also the dust will be heavy for a few weeks.
But once they fully brake in its like throwing out an anchor compared to stock setup.



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Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: curry67 on August 27, 2014, 06:49:39 PM
my guess is the pads will eventually make contact after a few hundred more miles. PP only has different pads for front and I do believe the surface area is larger then the other pads. could it be a different compound? also the rotors are the same so it shouldnt make a difference for fit.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHO-TYM on August 30, 2014, 12:19:23 AM
Quote from: glock-coma on August 27, 2014, 11:44:17 AM
That's actually my pic I took of  the difference in pads.
I thought it was strange also, they will squeal/rattle a little until bedded or broken in. Also the dust will be heavy for a few weeks.
But once they fully brake in its like throwing out an anchor compared to stock setup.



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They are squealing a little bit... I have also noticed that when I first apply the brakes, they feel mushy, but then if I let off and reapply right away, it catches right at the top and a lot stronger. Does that sound like a or in the lines??
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: glock-coma on August 30, 2014, 12:23:48 AM
That's probably just the break in coating not worn off yet. It will get better with time. Just don't get them really hot for the first 500 or so miles. Or you will  toast the pads.


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Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on August 30, 2014, 10:09:42 AM
Quote from: SHO-TYM on August 30, 2014, 12:19:23 AM
Quote from: glock-coma on August 27, 2014, 11:44:17 AM
That's actually my pic I took of  the difference in pads.
I thought it was strange also, they will squeal/rattle a little until bedded or broken in. Also the dust will be heavy for a few weeks.
But once they fully brake in its like throwing out an anchor compared to stock setup.



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They are squealing a little bit... I have also noticed that when I first apply the brakes, they feel mushy, but then if I let off and reapply right away, it catches right at the top and a lot stronger. Does that sound like a or in the lines??
Sounds like the normal feel, lack of pressure behind the pedal. They should stop better in the long run though. Don't know if anyone else does this, but I'm a fan of taking off break fluid res. cap when I'm compressing caliper pistons. Something about resetting them and pushing that pressure back into the system I don't like. Has seemed to help on our truck.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: glock-coma on August 30, 2014, 11:27:32 AM
That's exactly what I did when compressing the piston back.



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Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: curry67 on August 31, 2014, 12:35:08 PM
are you happy with the upgrade tym?
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: ZSHO on August 31, 2014, 07:19:20 PM
Quote from: SHO-TYM on August 30, 2014, 12:19:23 AM
Quote from: glock-coma on August 27, 2014, 11:44:17 AM
That's actually my pic I took of  the difference in pads.
I thought it was strange also, they will squeal/rattle a little until bedded or broken in. Also the dust will be heavy for a few weeks.
But once they fully brake in its like throwing out an anchor compared to stock setup. Give it a couple hundred miles to break in and the squeal should go away.

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They are squealing a little bit... I have also noticed that when I first apply the brakes, they feel mushy, but then if I let off and reapply right away, it catches right at the top and a lot stronger. Does that sound like a or in the lines??
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHO-TYM on August 31, 2014, 07:20:34 PM
Quote from: curry67 on August 31, 2014, 12:35:08 PM
are you happy with the upgrade tym?
So far so good! Still waiting to find time to do the rears... but the fronts have developed a really nice feel while braking.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on August 31, 2014, 08:17:11 PM
Quote from: glock-coma on August 30, 2014, 11:27:32 AM
That's exactly what I did when compressing the piston back.



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I like seeing someone else on the same path...or we might be the 2 doing it wrong, lol
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: glock-coma on August 31, 2014, 09:14:41 PM
That's how I've been doing all my brake jobs for the past 20 years. Never had an issue.


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Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: Woody on September 07, 2014, 09:29:33 PM
Just ordered the stage 4 kit for the front of my MKS.  I can't find a kit for the rear.  I found the pads, but EBC doesn't list any rotor for the rear.  Anyone know which rotor will fit the rear for the MKS?  I have a 2012.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: ZSHO on September 07, 2014, 11:58:36 PM
Rock auto has the Powerstop cross drilled and slotted rear brake kit Part#k-4744 for 140.00,best bang for your buck,with ceramic pads.
Title: Researching New Brakes
Post by: glock-coma on September 08, 2014, 12:10:08 AM
Quote from: Woody on September 07, 2014, 09:29:33 PM
Just ordered the stage 4 kit for the front of my MKS.  I can't find a kit for the rear.  I found the pads, but EBC doesn't list any rotor for the rear.  Anyone know which rotor will fit the rear for the MKS?  I have a 2012.

I'm pretty sure they are the same as the SHO.
If your looking for ebc the rear number is
7280. Just a matter if you want slotted only
(USR 7280) 
or cross drilled /slotted (GD7280)


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Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on September 15, 2014, 03:04:38 PM
Just got a heads up, the Back pads that were on back order are now being shipped. I'm being told I'll get my brake kit in around October 1st! (kind of annoying since I got my front kit 4-6 weeks prior to that) Oh well, such is life! Once I get them in and installed I'll have pics and and update for everyone!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOdded on September 15, 2014, 04:29:51 PM
Progress!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: curry67 on September 16, 2014, 01:03:52 AM
they should have some if i ordered some now?
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on September 16, 2014, 08:25:59 AM
My guess is they will be in stock shortly. I went with Place for Brakes. Haven't had any complaints so far, and they always have answered their phone when i call. Super nice too! I ordered the front kit (S4KF1273) and back kit (S4KR1204)

Exactly my thoughts SHOdded!!!! i'm just getting antsy because i'm out of town for work from mid october till christmas.... So i'd ideally like the brakes broken in before i get my Tune (christmas present to myself!!!)
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: AndyMan04 on September 16, 2014, 09:07:10 AM
here's a question, On the EBC's, the front rotors are 12.8 inches, but the rears are 13.0 inches...  :confused:
have the taurus rear brakes always been bigger than the fronts???
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: ZSHO on September 16, 2014, 09:47:50 AM
That's pretty much correct for the 10-12 SHO,13+SHO have a slightly larger outside diameter.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on October 07, 2014, 02:50:10 PM
Tuesday Update:

Talked to Place for Brakes. Sounds that EBC plans to ship out the Pads i need for the rear set in the next 2-3 weeks....

Place for Brakes sales manager emailed me today an hour or 2 after I called. While this is reassuring, I put all blame of my situation on SHO-TYM... because i have a strong feeling he got the last set of pads for this set in the states....

So at this rate, i won't see my new brakes until November i'm thinking and with the holidays and travel, i'm quite booked. So who knows when i will get these installed. Might even have to bite the bullet and take them to a shop to have them install it for me since i don't have a heated garage :(
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: glock-coma on October 07, 2014, 04:21:00 PM
If your ever near the Cleveland area I'll put em on for ya.
I have an attached garage.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on October 10, 2014, 02:09:23 PM
I APPRECIATE THE OFFER Glock-coma!!!

MOTHER OF GOD!!!!! MY BACK BRAKES ARRIVE OCT 15th!!!!!! Only 50 days between the 2 shipments.... lol
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on October 17, 2014, 12:56:00 PM
fianlly... i have the back set.... i have the front set..... i have my caliper piston compression tool rented.... SUNDAY WILL BE THE DAY I FINALLY GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF!!!!!!!!

and you can all bet i will have some sort of post after on my thoughts as soon as they are on and then as soon as they're broken in!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOdded on October 17, 2014, 02:04:24 PM
Hopefully you won't need to break out the Prozac ;)  Good luck!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: curry67 on October 18, 2014, 04:28:44 AM
how much should it decrease stopping distance?
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on October 20, 2014, 08:37:13 AM
Guess who has new brakes?! ..... not me....... Dealership decided to not replace my lug nut key/lock/socket and i didn't notice till yesterday.... i'm going to have a nice talk with them on my lunch break
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOdded on October 20, 2014, 10:16:03 AM
No matter.  This is trivial (though frustrating) compared to the wait for the parts!  Victory SHALL be yours :)
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on October 20, 2014, 10:18:10 AM
Yeah, Murphy's law has played me all too well for this project! haha.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOdded on October 20, 2014, 11:01:02 AM
Murphy's Shenanigans :D wants YOU!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on October 20, 2014, 09:26:38 PM
they're..... finally..... DONE!!!!!!!!! so far, so good. only have 10 miles on em! plan on babying her for 200 minimum. Might have to be "that guy" on the highway that leaves like 100 yards between me and the car in front of me!

Pics will be up tomorrow!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOdded on October 20, 2014, 09:56:21 PM
Yeehaw!!!  Quit yer prancing and dig in them spurs already :D
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: wasinger3000 on October 21, 2014, 01:51:11 AM
Instead of starting a new redundant thread, I'll ask here. I'm looking for opinions on which brake pads to go with. It's between Hawk HPS and EBC Red Stuff. Thoughts on which one is best for heavy street use on our heavy cars?
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on October 21, 2014, 08:36:48 AM
What i ended up reading that i liked most about the Red stuff Pads is that they don't need heated up to get the best bite. Just break em in and go have fun. Plus if you have Red calipers.... they match! haha.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: ZSHO on October 21, 2014, 11:58:47 AM
Everyone has differnt opinions which pads offer better stopping ability and performance,having tried almost every pad,had great sucess with the Hawk hps semi-metallic pads,come in street use,track use and offer great stopping ability when cold and are more gentle on your rotors than ceramics,meaning you will get more life out of your rotors in the long run.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: wasinger3000 on October 21, 2014, 12:03:41 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on October 21, 2014, 11:58:47 AM
Everyone has differnt opinions which pads offer better stopping ability and performance,having tried almost every pad,had great sucess with the Hawk hps semi-metallic pads,come in street use,track use and offer great stopping ability when cold and are more gentle on your rotors than ceramics,meaning you will get more life out of your rotors in the long run.
That's all I'm looking for. Just wanted to hear from people on our platform as to what works best. I was leaning twards hawk hps. How do they compare to stock pads?
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: ZSHO on October 21, 2014, 12:53:15 PM
I havent tried them on my SHO yet,still have the original with 17k,but installed the Hawk HPS SEMI-METALLIC on my BMW which in weight are close,first thing that i noticed was that first initial bite upon install felt great not spongy,and the stopping power was better than my previous Akebono ceramic pads which only plus was the rims were clean,compared to semi-metallic are dusty,but take the tradeoff anyday,they work great when cold and dont have to warm them up,go to the Hawk site to follow the break in procedure.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on November 15, 2014, 10:00:01 AM
Depressing update for anyone still following:

Brakes have about 200 miles on them as of Oct 25th. Then I got shipped out to Canada for work and haven't seen my second favorite woman since then..... So i can't exactly tell you how the really feel after being broken/bedded in since i still have another 200-400 miles to go. In all reality, i'm just going through 100% Taurus SHO withdraws in general. haha. there really isn't anything enjoyable about a Hyundai Santa Fe for 5 weeks other than work is paying for the gas and for me to drink it.... Thanksgiving can't come soon enough :(
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOdded on November 15, 2014, 11:58:08 AM
Had me all worried at the get-go!  Work pays for fun, so hang in there :)
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on November 15, 2014, 12:38:12 PM
Haha, now i read back on that... you're right, hell i even scared myself now i read that. LOL.

Yeah, i'm home for thanksgiving hopefully and she'll get her fair share of driving, thats for sure!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on December 01, 2014, 04:30:26 PM
Finally got to Bed in my brakes this past weekend! everything feels amazing! I'll have pics in about 2 weeks when i get back from my work trip!

Didn't think it would take me till Dec 1st to get this entire project done from order to fully bed in... haha!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOdded on December 02, 2014, 12:07:59 AM
At least now you get to enjoy your brake upgrade :)  Looking forward to those pics!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: Boggus on December 02, 2014, 12:46:54 AM
Anything out for 2013 PP cars yet?
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: vernonator on April 27, 2015, 11:18:47 AM
Thanks all for posting to this thread - got my EBC Stage 4 kits on order with my installer. Hopefully get them installed this week !!!! Will let everyone know how they feel once in and bedded
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on April 27, 2015, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: vernonator on April 27, 2015, 11:18:47 AM
Thanks all for posting to this thread - got my EBC Stage 4 kits on order with my installer. Hopefully get them installed this week !!!! Will let everyone know how they feel once in and bedded
I have these in my cart right now. Waiting to hear back from Auto Anything on doing better than the 10% discount I'm using.

Where'd you order from?

Rich

Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: vernonator on April 27, 2015, 12:15:06 PM
Quote from: SHOnUup on April 27, 2015, 11:23:46 AM
Quote from: vernonator on April 27, 2015, 11:18:47 AM
Thanks all for posting to this thread - got my EBC Stage 4 kits on order with my installer. Hopefully get them installed this week !!!! Will let everyone know how they feel once in and bedded
I have these in my cart right now. Waiting to hear back from Auto Anything on doing better than the 10% discount I'm using.

Where'd you order from?

Rich
Had my installer order them - his installed price was only about $150 more than I could find both kits for online, so figured it was worth him doing it :)
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: 14SHOCAR on April 27, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
c'mon people! Rockauto.com. They have a few power stop kits and z17 pads for our cars that front+rear slotted/cross drilled rotors and ceramic pads ...... $189.00.

Just sayin'
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on April 27, 2015, 02:47:38 PM
Quote from: 14SHOCAR on April 27, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
c'mon people! Rockauto.com. They have a few power stop kits and z17 pads for our cars that front+rear slotted/cross drilled rotors and ceramic pads ...... $189.00.

Just sayin'
Went with slotted ebc...look swayed me

Rich

Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: ecoboostsho on April 27, 2015, 03:55:18 PM
Quote from: SHOnUup on April 27, 2015, 02:47:38 PM
Quote from: 14SHOCAR on April 27, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
c'mon people! Rockauto.com. They have a few power stop kits and z17 pads for our cars that front+rear slotted/cross drilled rotors and ceramic pads ...... $189.00.

Just sayin'
Went with slotted ebc...look swayed me

Rich


I have them on my car Rich...break them in properly and you should be very happy!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: panther427 on April 27, 2015, 05:24:36 PM
Quote from: ecoboostsho on April 27, 2015, 03:55:18 PM
Quote from: SHOnUup on April 27, 2015, 02:47:38 PM
Quote from: 14SHOCAR on April 27, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
c'mon people! Rockauto.com. They have a few power stop kits and z17 pads for our cars that front+rear slotted/cross drilled rotors and ceramic pads ...... $189.00.

Just sayin'
Went with slotted ebc...look swayed me

Rich


I have them on my car Rich...break them in properly and you should be very happy!

For the 2013 rock lists the z23 pads.

http://www.powerstop.com/product/power-stop-z16-kit/#y=2013&mk=FORD&mo=TAURUS%20SHO (http://www.powerstop.com/product/power-stop-z16-kit/#y=2013&mk=FORD&mo=TAURUS%20SHO)

here is the link to the company itselft
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on April 27, 2015, 05:27:57 PM
Quote from: ecoboostsho on April 27, 2015, 03:55:18 PM
Quote from: SHOnUup on April 27, 2015, 02:47:38 PM
Quote from: 14SHOCAR on April 27, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
c'mon people! Rockauto.com. They have a few power stop kits and z17 pads for our cars that front+rear slotted/cross drilled rotors and ceramic pads ...... $189.00.

Just sayin'
Went with slotted ebc...look swayed me

Rich


I have them on my car Rich...break them in properly and you should be very happy!
I remember you putting them on!!! How are they treating you now after some miles?

Rich

Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: ecoboostsho on April 27, 2015, 05:28:47 PM
Car stops on a dime and they are wearing well. Just take your time breaking them in.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on April 27, 2015, 05:29:43 PM
Quote from: ecoboostsho on April 27, 2015, 05:28:47 PM
Car stops on a dime and they are wearing well. Just take your time breaking them in.
Great to hear...I may be messaging you in the future on tips for break in. Thx

Rich

Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: panther427 on April 27, 2015, 05:42:51 PM
I used the power stop brand on my grand prix and was very happy. This is something I hope to get done to my SHO this summer along with the trans fluid changed out.

Autoanything.com will beat rockautos price by one dollar and free shipping
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: Larrylu on April 27, 2015, 06:32:32 PM

Quote from: 14SHOCAR on April 27, 2015, 02:00:41 PM
c'mon people! Rockauto.com. They have a few power stop kits and z17 pads for our cars that front+rear slotted/cross drilled rotors and ceramic pads ...... $189.00.

Just sayin'
I installed them about 4 months ago. Noticeably more stopping power than the stock set up. Look pretty good too!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on April 28, 2015, 01:35:09 PM
Well, I ordered the brakes yesterday around noonish. The rotors said they may not ship until the 5th of May. So I used the express delivery on those and figured the pads wouldn't take to long to follow via normal delivery.

Fast forward 24 hours...they're already here! I only payed for the rotors to be expressed, but they used a larger box for the rear rotors and snuck the pads in there too.

Thank you Auto Anything...pleasure doing business with you.

Rich

Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on April 28, 2015, 01:35:31 PM
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/28/af751641e5e13100ec7e039955b99028.jpg)

Rich

Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOdded on April 28, 2015, 01:51:56 PM
:thumb:  Time to get those bad boys put where they belong!
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on April 28, 2015, 01:52:46 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on April 28, 2015, 01:51:56 PM
:thumb:  Time to get those bad boys put where they belong!
Amen to that...looks like a parts store over here right now

Rich

Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOdded on April 28, 2015, 01:54:45 PM
It's like watching the bits & pieces of a Terminator gather together before coming to "life" :)
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on April 28, 2015, 01:58:40 PM
Lol...;D;D

Rich

Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: 14SHOCAR on April 28, 2015, 02:48:26 PM
I'm curious how quickly that black zync will wear off and what it looks like when they do wear. I do dig the blacks though!

(http://www.clublexus.com/forums/attachments/is-f/270511d1358984903-my-adams-front-rotors-left-rotors.jpg)

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Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on April 28, 2015, 02:57:12 PM
where the pads make contact, it was a matter of just full revolutions. I put mine on, drove home from my buddies place like 8 miles, and it was gone.

Now where the pad DOES NOT make contact, its still there. I can post a pic if you'd like to see tonight.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on April 28, 2015, 04:33:51 PM
Quote from: peppelepugh on April 28, 2015, 02:57:12 PM
where the pads make contact, it was a matter of just full revolutions. I put mine on, drove home from my buddies place like 8 miles, and it was gone.

Now where the pad DOES NOT make contact, its still there. I can post a pic if you'd like to see tonight.
Pics please

Rich

Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: BiGMaC on April 29, 2015, 03:32:44 AM
Quote from: SHOnUup on April 28, 2015, 04:33:51 PM
Quote from: peppelepugh on April 28, 2015, 02:57:12 PM
where the pads make contact, it was a matter of just full revolutions. I put mine on, drove home from my buddies place like 8 miles, and it was gone.

Now where the pad DOES NOT make contact, its still there. I can post a pic if you'd like to see tonight.
Pics please

Rich


X2^^^ Pics please.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on April 29, 2015, 05:45:13 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/peppelepugh/04291517361.jpg) (http://s37.photobucket.com/user/peppelepugh/media/04291517361.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on April 29, 2015, 07:29:29 PM
Quote from: peppelepugh on April 29, 2015, 05:45:13 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/peppelepugh/04291517361.jpg) (http://s37.photobucket.com/user/peppelepugh/media/04291517361.jpg.html)
Looks like they lost all the black...even center portion?

Rich

Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: peppelepugh on April 29, 2015, 07:30:54 PM
Quote from: SHOnUup on April 29, 2015, 07:29:29 PM
Quote from: peppelepugh on April 29, 2015, 05:45:13 PM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e64/peppelepugh/04291517361.jpg) (http://s37.photobucket.com/user/peppelepugh/media/04291517361.jpg.html)
Looks like they lost all the black...even center portion?

Rich

well the black is still there if you can see right under the bare metal.... its just not BLACK.... And i haven't had the tires off to see the center portions....
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on April 29, 2015, 07:34:17 PM
Thx for the pics...appreciate it

Rich

Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: ecoboostsho on April 29, 2015, 07:35:08 PM
Ditto here. Mine is sort of a discolored black as well no real rust though. Doesn't look bad but not great either. Way better than stock though in my opinion.
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: ecoboostsho on April 29, 2015, 07:37:30 PM
Close up. Not sure how clear it will be.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/29/016e969a9f62eb421f45e10d287246e7.jpg)
Title: Re: Researching New Brakes
Post by: SHOnUup on April 29, 2015, 09:06:11 PM
Definitely better than stock.

Rich

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