https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/dodge-charger-hellcat-roars-to-life-as-the-707-hp-world-s-fastest-sedan-163712371.html
I might have to trade in the SHO for this.
That's a very attractive package. I've been shopping around for something faster. Still think I would rather have an M5 over this though. 0-60 in 3.6 1/4 in 11.7
Quote from: wasinger3000 on August 13, 2014, 02:45:42 PM
That's a very attractive package. I've been shopping around for something faster. Still think I would rather have an M5 over this though. 0-60 in 3.6 1/4 in 11.7
The Hellcat could be low 11's in good air stock. Swap pulley, tune, exhaust, mid 10's.
Quote from: black99lightning on August 13, 2014, 02:55:34 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on August 13, 2014, 02:45:42 PM
That's a very attractive package. I've been shopping around for something faster. Still think I would rather have an M5 over this though. 0-60 in 3.6 1/4 in 11.7
The Hellcat could be low 11's in good air stock. Swap pulley, tune, exhaust, mid 10's.
Same goes for the M5. Tune, intake, down pipes, makes quite a power bump.
People seem to forget that someday cars will have to go around corners. I'd like to do so with precision. That's where I prefer an M5.
None the less. The charger will be a fun car.
Cost to mod the M5 would be through the roof, but if your purchasing an M5--Money isn't an issue
The real question is will it hold together. I wouldn't mod that thing at all. They would be just looking to void the warranty. That said 200 mph and 11 flat why would you need to.
Quote from: Josephm on August 13, 2014, 03:16:51 PM
Cost to mod the M5 would be through the roof, but if your purchasing an M5--Money isn't an issue
It's not that expensive to mod. Besides I think any car above 65k can assume the buyer is fairly well off in the financial department and shouldn't be penny pinching on mods.
You guys, all so starry eyed :D What we need is a slightly bigger front end for the SHO, some engine upgrades, and some trans upgrades. We'd match/outrun the Hellcat all day long. With the 3.5 TT, not even a 5.0TT. And probably avg easily over 20 mpg city/hwy doing it. So there!
Quote from: SHOdded on August 13, 2014, 04:03:26 PM
You guys, all so starry eyed :D
707 HP makes me Starry Eyed!
Seriously though, no matter what I think of Dodge/MOPAR as junk. Most vehicles that I have been in have had terrible fit and finish, and whenever i see a vehicle dumping Blue Smoke from the exhaust about 75%+ % of the time they are Dodge/Chrysler products.
Most of them are 4 Cyl, or V-6 products, and I think the Hemi is better than that. I really dont know if I would own one.
Maybe they have gotten a lot better in the last few years too.
They seem to have made an effort to retain the Hemi reputation, probably have a separate set of folks handling design & development there.
Quote from: SHOdded on August 13, 2014, 04:03:26 PM
You guys, all so starry eyed :D What we need is a slightly bigger front end for the SHO, some engine upgrades, and some trans upgrades. We'd match/outrun the Hellcat all day long. With the 3.5 TT, not even a 5.0TT. And probably avg easily over 20 mpg city/hwy doing it. So there!
SVT Taurus!!! In Alaska I need AWD. An APR ECU flash on an Audi S6 can get you 550-570 HP depending on the fuel.
Quote from: SHOdded on August 13, 2014, 04:03:26 PM
You guys, all so starry eyed :D What we need is a slightly bigger front end for the SHO, some engine upgrades, and some trans upgrades. We'd match/outrun the Hellcat all day long. With the 3.5 TT, not even a 5.0TT. And probably avg easily over 20 mpg city/hwy doing it. So there!
I like this!!!!
It is a monster...it really is.
But, at 65K, it is approaching double what many of us paid for gently pre-owned or even new SHOs. Furthermore, I'd officially have to become a divorced man. The Hellcat simply is an impossibility for me, as a married man. Lol
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For $65k, you'll find me in a new Corvette.
Still a cool car. Ford needs a 550hp+ sedan....
I'm afraid once the financial hurdle is cleared domestically by shopping pre-owned, the next would naturally be, "Why the HELL do you need 700hp," and quote frankly, I don't believe I'd be able to provide a justifiable rationale!
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I think the grill looks ugly, but the hood looks great!!! As for the 700hp sedan bpd1151 just Dyno a up-grade 3.5tt EB at 617AWHP!!!!!! Way more than 707hp at the fly wheel!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wlzbNAvhrI&feature=youtu.be. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wlzbNAvhrI&feature=youtu.be.)
Think he's $65k into his SHO? Probably. Lol
It will be interesting to see what comes out down the road from both domestic and import. I think 5-600 hp is a perfect ammount. Just want companies to lighten and refine the cars and not just throw power at it.
and Dodge just stated that this car did a 11.0 flat quarter mile with factory tires... faster than the challenger Hellcat.... somehow :o
Aluminum? Traction bars?
Quote from: AndyMan04 on August 14, 2014, 07:17:22 AM
and Dodge just stated that this car did a 11.0 flat quarter mile with factory tires... faster than the challenger Hellcat.... somehow :o
Its not a Dodge...It's a Fiat...and THAT is why I would not buy one. Who knows where that company will be in 3-5yrs, Fiat was on its deathbed when they acquired Chrysler (with Gov help), and their financials are not all that much better now. Stick with a company that had the brains to prep for financial issues.
FiatChryslerDodge...I'm getting confused...lol
Local news just missed the specs by saying it goes 0-100 in 13 seconds...oops
as a loyal 40yr mopar fan, until they took the bailout & closed our plant in st. louis, & luckily got me into a sho, a truly amazing car combining luxury w/great performance instead of a charger or a challenger, let me say that fiat has amazed me that they have not screwed chrsyler up. the hellcat has allowed me to pickup from my friend his low mileage '09 challenger r/t as my new daily driver, so he can get in line for the hellcat, & keep the sho for show purposes during the summer, but will drive it when roads are wet, rear wheel drive just doesn't cut it. i have a gripe with ford, my opinion, for basically abandoning the sho since '12 in all advertising thus really making our sho a test car for the f150 & explorer, their real money makers. that being said i have a real good basis for comparison. driveability, comfort, interior quality, cost of insurance hands down the sho. sportiness & sound the challenger, nothing beats a V-8 sound. would i take a hellcat if someone gave it to me sure, but really chrsyler has except for the engine changed the body very little since '09. but ford's supposed move to shorten the taurus, which would not allow the 3.5 TT to fit & replace w/ the 2.7 made my decision to get my friends challenger easy as would not want the new sho, so spread the miles out on 2 cars made a lot of sense to me. just my opinion.
Sorry guys, but as soon as the dealer has one of these, i think the SHO is going to be on the used car side of my local dodge dealer... I just cant see myself passing this one up. The charger looks amazing, its 4 door and I cant imagine what a cai/pulley/tune is going to net on this thing. Its almost everything I wish i could have in the SHO
I think ill even go as far as getting a personalized plate "SHOKLR" :rofl2:
Haha, and so he Flys his true colors.
J/k about the plates... no one would know what it means :lol: but as far as brand loyalty goes I have none. I am loyal to speed and power. whomever tops that list gets my vote. If we get a true fuel system upgrade before I get to the dealership things maybe different. Alas I do not foresee that happening though :(
Plus look at it this way, you can either be the red headed step child of ford. Or the crown jewel of dodge. Its just a shame ford obviously doesnt care about the SHO, or they would have tried alot harder. But I guess its a numbers game and market statistics apparently dont trend well for performance sedans.
I still like my AWD.
I bet a modified SHO would still beat or keep up with a Hellcat on the street until 60mph or so. From a roll or a well prepped strip, fuggitaboutit. Or if the owner loses his red key...
Owner needs to be a pro type driver to pull the #'s touted. Lot o power for some little tires.
Quote from: Txstrmhntr on August 14, 2014, 05:40:58 PM
Plus look at it this way, you can either be the red headed step child of ford. Or the crown jewel of dodge. Its just a shame ford obviously doesnt care about the SHO, or they would have tried alot harder. But I guess its a numbers game and market statistics apparently dont trend well for performance sedans.
I would agree with you in the trend, but why does everybody else make at least one really high performance sedan. At least one with 450+ HP? Ford seems to be the only one left that's not making one right now. I do agree with you on the SHO. What the hell happened? It's supposed to be their flagship car? Not so much.
I would love if fords response is to slap the trinity or that rumored voodoo ecoboost v8 into there flagship full size sedan. 600+hp in a family car with a blue oval would have me drooling over it instead. But all signs ive seen are pointing to the next gen SHO getting the 2.7 nano EB
How about one of these? I'm not sure about it's looks. But a 4 door stang would be interesting lol.
http://www.torquenews.com/106/2015-ford-mustang-sedan-would-look-lot
a US version Falcon would be pretty dang sweet, and a perfect platform for a supercharged/turbo 8. I would have stood inline or camped out at the ford house for a Falcon. And a 4dr mustang would be very Falcon like....
It's a shame they axed the falcon.
The Fusion is most of the way there. They just need to give it some get-up-n-go. Fusion ST, if you will. Something to succeed the Contour SVT!
Quote from: Txstrmhntr on August 14, 2014, 06:00:09 PM
I would love if fords response is to slap the trinity or that rumored voodoo ecoboost v8 into there flagship full size sedan. 600+hp in a family car with a blue oval would have me drooling over it instead. But all signs ive seen are pointing to the next gen SHO getting the 2.7 nano EB
ahhhhh yes... I've heard that rumor too about fords 4.0L v8 TT engine that is supposedly going to be used in the F250 line ups. Considering that the 3.5L makes 365 hp... I would only assume .5L higher would only make somewhere in the mid 400hps. 440hp at best... :disgust:
if we are lucky that would go into the new SHO and compete against the Audi S6.
Quote from: SHOdded on August 14, 2014, 06:41:06 PM
The Fusion is most of the way there. They just need to give it some get-up-n-go. Fusion ST, if you will. Something to succeed the Contour SVT!
the contour SVT was awesome!!! :thumb: I had a '01 Mecury Cougar and got alot of performance parts from the SVT contour. You know, SVT did develop the SHO build so i'm sure they have already presented a beastful 4 door sedan build idea to ford HQ and sure it was shot down for who knows what reasons.
I still see the European version of the Contour on Midsomer Murders, think of the SvT in silver with a perforated blue/black interior every time (showroom) :)
poker got's it right awd is really special unless you live someplace you don't need it. chrysler & GM liked it so much they put it in their chargers as an option & of course the caddie xts. the interested thing which my friend with the r/t charger & i are going to attempt with bs of p measure is front wheel dominance versus rear wheel dominance. I got to believe front wheel will be better in wet weather. all i know is my tuned challenger r/t is flat out scary on a wet road & i can't imagine a hellcat on it. if you got loads of dough a great 2nd car, but for year around drivablitlity & comfort sho is a winner. too bad ford & aftermarket have treated us with such distain
Have a buddy who works at Chrysler here in Michigan, and he said there's "rumors" of this engine only being a 2 year build.
It would be a great car to daily drive if you live in the desert. I need awd. I had to drive the stang in a half inch of snow and it was the worst driving experience of my life. Absolutely terrible.
I wish there were more awd sedans out there. Only one that's close to the sho price wise is a 335i xdrive.
It's not anywhere near the fastest Sedan - this thing (I just found out about it today) is a KILLER!
http://www.dragtimes.com/Audi--RS-7-Drag-Racing.html (http://www.dragtimes.com/Audi--RS-7-Drag-Racing.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yJCULa2Lus
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on August 15, 2014, 10:25:03 AM
It's not anywhere near the fastest Sedan - this thing (I just found out about it today) is a KILLER!
http://www.dragtimes.com/Audi--RS-7-Drag-Racing.html (http://www.dragtimes.com/Audi--RS-7-Drag-Racing.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yJCULa2Lus
Funny I saw one of those on the road today. But it's also $110k if I had the money I just might buy one ;)
If I had 110k cash to drop on a car I'd be sure to peddle a boat load of cash at it for mods.
Right now I would wager the Hellcat is the fastest stock sedan. The RS7 is fast but it stock trim it is not pulling low 11's. With a few mods sure but not stock.
But it is like 175% the price. And that's what makes this thing a beast. It is cheap HP. Sure we can make our cars compete against it but not easily and cheaply with full warranties. Hell, I can take a 06 STI and turn it into a 10 sec car for less than the cost of our cars. Doesn't mean I want to drive one. ;)
For the price it is a good deal. I think we are seeing these cars as the last 'hurrah' before we lose the big monster gas guzzler motors to the new fuel requirement laws that are just over the horizon. We will see some new hybrid, electric and even hydrogen cars hitting the showroom floors soon.
Some will give the terms "sport" car/ sedan new meanings. Like the P1 and the 918 are doing in the supercar world.
You can make huge power and still be fuel efficient. It just costs more to make it happen.
Look at the 2.0 AMG has created. It makes 360 hp. That's 181 hp per liter of engine. That's more than any production engine yet it still gets 31 mpg. We don't need 6.4L supercharged engines to reach break neck speeds. Find new ways to make materials lighter. Build a high quality twin turbo 3L v8 and you will have stunning results.
haha
(http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh507/pokermunkee/hellcat-funny_zps0ffcb6df.jpg)
Quote from: wasinger3000 on August 15, 2014, 03:46:54 PM
You can make huge power and still be fuel efficient. It just costs more to make it happen.
Look at the 2.0 AMG has created. It makes 360 hp. That's 181 hp per liter of engine. That's more than any production engine yet it still gets 31 mpg. We don't need 6.4L supercharged engines to reach break neck speeds. Find new ways to make materials lighter. Build a high quality twin turbo 3L v8 and you will have stunning results.
Apparently Mikes SHO can make 700 at the crank. That's 200hp per litre. That's what we freaking need in the SHO!
Quote from: ShoBoat on August 15, 2014, 04:22:15 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on August 15, 2014, 03:46:54 PM
You can make huge power and still be fuel efficient. It just costs more to make it happen.
Look at the 2.0 AMG has created. It makes 360 hp. That's 181 hp per liter of engine. That's more than any production engine yet it still gets 31 mpg. We don't need 6.4L supercharged engines to reach break neck speeds. Find new ways to make materials lighter. Build a high quality twin turbo 3L v8 and you will have stunning results.
Apparently Mikes SHO can make 700 at the crank. That's 200hp per litre. That's what we freaking need in the SHO!
That and have the engine face the correct way hah.
I still cannot find a car under 70k that is awd with a sub 5 sec 0-60.... it's annoying.
Quote from: wasinger3000 on August 15, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on August 15, 2014, 04:22:15 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on August 15, 2014, 03:46:54 PM
You can make huge power and still be fuel efficient. It just costs more to make it happen.
Look at the 2.0 AMG has created. It makes 360 hp. That's 181 hp per liter of engine. That's more than any production engine yet it still gets 31 mpg. We don't need 6.4L supercharged engines to reach break neck speeds. Find new ways to make materials lighter. Build a high quality twin turbo 3L v8 and you will have stunning results.
Apparently Mikes SHO can make 700 at the crank. That's 200hp per litre. That's what we freaking need in the SHO!
That and have the engine face the correct way hah.
I still cannot find a car under 70k that is awd with a sub 5 sec 0-60.... it's annoying.
Sure you can, get an S4 and tune the crap out if it. It will pull low 12s most of the time lol.
Quote from: ShoBoat on August 15, 2014, 04:28:44 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on August 15, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on August 15, 2014, 04:22:15 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on August 15, 2014, 03:46:54 PM
You can make huge power and still be fuel efficient. It just costs more to make it happen.
Look at the 2.0 AMG has created. It makes 360 hp. That's 181 hp per liter of engine. That's more than any production engine yet it still gets 31 mpg. We don't need 6.4L supercharged engines to reach break neck speeds. Find new ways to make materials lighter. Build a high quality twin turbo 3L v8 and you will have stunning results.
Apparently Mikes SHO can make 700 at the crank. That's 200hp per litre. That's what we freaking need in the SHO!
That and have the engine face the correct way hah.
I still cannot find a car under 70k that is awd with a sub 5 sec 0-60.... it's annoying.
Sure you can, get an S4 and tune the crap out if it. It will pull low 12s most of the time lol.
Ehhh not a a fan of it tbh. Considering you can take a 335i xdrive with the m sport package and make it faster with just a tune and a few parts. The 335 is cheaper to start with, insurance is cheaper, and I like it's looks more. A stock 335 m sport will 0-60 in 4.5. I could buy a used 14 will all the goodies for only 8k more than my cars worth. But I'd like to start with something higher on the speed chain.
Everything else is crazy expensive. Like the beloved E63....
Quote from: wasinger3000 on August 15, 2014, 03:46:54 PM
You can make huge power and still be fuel efficient. It just costs more to make it happen.
Look at the 2.0 AMG has created. It makes 360 hp. That's 181 hp per liter of engine. That's more than any production engine yet it still gets 31 mpg. We don't need 6.4L supercharged engines to reach break neck speeds. Find new ways to make materials lighter. Build a high quality twin turbo 3L v8 and you will have stunning results.
Its not about making power. That's easy. Mazda had a rotary that made 260hp out of a 1.3liter. Mitsubishi EVO X 2.0l @ 440hp (crushes the AMG 181/liter) and there are more.
But these hellcats harken back to a day where V8's ruled. Back to a time where the adage was "there is NO replacement for displacement." When people go buy a Mustang/ Camero/ Vette they don't want a 2.7l V6 even if it is quicker than a mid nineties V8. They want the V8.
It's like transmissions. Not to long ago it was manual over a 'slush box.' Now days a Sports car guy wants a manual because he is in control. A Performance car guy wants the DCS electronic system because it is faster than any manual tranny. Even F1 doesn't allow fully automated trannies as they 'take away from the skill of the driver' and not because they are too slow.
Mark my words.... 2040 we won't see manual transmissions in anything but classic cars.
Quote from: wasinger3000 on August 15, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
I still cannot find a car under 70k that is awd with a sub 5 sec 0-60.... it's annoying.
Subaru STI... 4.9 stock trim... $40k USD
2013 RS3 Sedan will be under 5s and under 60k USD
I'm sure there are more but can't think of them right now.
In 2040 we won't see a V8 either. I do miss my 71 Vette, 454 4 speed rock crusher. No nannies at all lol. Not even a proportioning valve for the brakes. Holding that steady took skill and a lot if practice. The whole idea of launch control I think takes the fun out of it.
Quote from: kinder on August 15, 2014, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: wasinger3000 on August 15, 2014, 03:46:54 PM
You can make huge power and still be fuel efficient. It just costs more to make it happen.
Look at the 2.0 AMG has created. It makes 360 hp. That's 181 hp per liter of engine. That's more than any production engine yet it still gets 31 mpg. We don't need 6.4L supercharged engines to reach break neck speeds. Find new ways to make materials lighter. Build a high quality twin turbo 3L v8 and you will have stunning results.
Its not about making power. That's easy. Mazda had a rotary that made 260hp out of a 1.3liter. Mitsubishi EVO X 2.0l @ 440hp (crushes the AMG 181/liter) and there are more.
But these hellcats harken back to a day where V8's ruled. Back to a time where the adage was "there is NO replacement for displacement." When people go buy a Mustang/ Camero/ Vette they don't want a 2.7l V6 even if it is quicker than a mid nineties V8. They want the V8.
It's like transmissions. Not to long ago it was manual over a 'slush box.' Now days a Sports car guy wants a manual because he is in control. A Performance car guy wants the DCS electronic system because it is faster than any manual tranny. Even F1 doesn't allow fully automated trannies as they 'take away from the skill of the driver' and not because they are too slow.
Mark my words.... 2040 we won't see manual transmissions in anything but classic cars.
I understand what they are doing and it is cool to see companies are still able to make them.
Everyone has there view of what a sports car should be.
Cadillac XTS AWD Vsport does 0-60 high 4's according to some articles. LMS is adding 96WHP/104WTQ with just a tune...
Quote from: PokerMunkee on August 15, 2014, 06:16:53 PM
Cadillac XTS AWD Vsport does 0-60 high 4's according to some articles. LMS is adding 96WHP/104WTQ with just a tune...
I personally am not crazy about where Cadillac is going with their designs as of late. The new CTS and XTS are almost Fugly to me. And those driving lights? What were they thinking? Are we intentionally trying to blind on coming traffic?? I know Caddys are supposed to be over the top, but come on? I would take a 13 CTS V over the new ones with it's old school nav and all.
I assume by 2040 there will be a luxury tax on non-commercial dino-powered vehicles. V8s, V12s, W12s, etc. will all be around, but likely be more in F40 pricing category. Them rich folks like them collectibles.
Possibly...
But just think, in 25yrs we went from this
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Taurus-SHO-2.jpg)
to this
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/06/36-2010-ford-taurus-sho-fd-580op.jpg)
Who knows what we will have by 2040?
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YVlnfSmbj6A/TuCUtRBsFXI/AAAAAAAAGl8/Mklq-sICIaU/s1600/cars_design_creative_car_pictures_vehicle_fourwheelers%2528www.picturespool.blogspot.com%2529_03.jpg)
Quote from: 4DRHTRD on August 15, 2014, 10:25:03 AM
It's not anywhere near the fastest Sedan - this thing (I just found out about it today) is a KILLER!
http://www.dragtimes.com/Audi--RS-7-Drag-Racing.html (http://www.dragtimes.com/Audi--RS-7-Drag-Racing.html)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yJCULa2Lus
Funny seeing this. Sent that video last week to my brother and a group of friends we regularly exchange auto related emails with.
I sent this maybe a month ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAvXFsAf1Es (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAvXFsAf1Es) from the guys who built this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnkEXxfeKxw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnkEXxfeKxw)
"I live my life a 1/4 mile at a time, for that 10 seconds or less I am free" he must have been taking about this guys GTR.
Wow, that GTR is insane!!! Saw more of those on Woodward today than SHO'S.
Sorry for going off topic from my previous post, so, in regards to the Charger Hellcat, as it is priced, not really a bad deal imho, same goes for the Challenger. But, it's probably going to have a serious dealer markup....we'll see. Stock for stock, it is the fastest.
That GTR is absolutely nuts...no chute either, at that speed...and the Dunkin Donuts bit in the vid was pretty funny. AMS GTR or Underground Racing Gallardo.....take your pick, both are just insane.
Quote from: wasinger3000 on August 15, 2014, 03:46:54 PM
I still cannot find a car under 70k that is awd with a sub 5 sec 0-60.... it's annoying.
for 69K (base price), the Audi RS-5 can do 0-60 in 3.9 secs but can only run a 1/4 mile at 12.3 @ 112. The funny part is that this is also a 4000 plus pound car!!!
After I left Woodward Saturday I went East to Telegraph in order to make it to the highway faster and ran across two white Charger Hellcat Prototypes sitting in a parking lot with a chase car. We went back to check them out and the drivers freaked out when we started taking pics. I got out to go look into one and the driver stopped me saying she would loose her job if she allowed the inside of the prototype to be photographed. It was pretty sweet seeing them that way. I thought it was odd they wouldn't let us by them since there was a red one on display on Woodward. I wonder if the interiors on these two mules weren't done yet.
That is weird. Everyone has see the cars. Not sure why it would be a big deal. She deserves to lose her job is she's not watching over it like she should.
Bmw usually has the drivers put a car cover over the car when they park.
Quote from: SHOdded on August 14, 2014, 06:41:06 PM
The Fusion is most of the way there. They just need to give it some get-up-n-go. Fusion ST, if you will. Something to succeed the Contour SVT!
Falcon is RWD and can have a supercharged v8 or a turbo 6. Fusion is Failwheeldrive. I had two Contour SVT's, good commuter cars, but no BALLS.
Unfortunately, the C-SVT was caught in a period of blah design & power for Ford. If they had a 2.5L EB in there today coupled to AWD, would be a much different story.
Quote from: black99lightning on August 18, 2014, 04:37:03 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on August 14, 2014, 06:41:06 PM
The Fusion is most of the way there. They just need to give it some get-up-n-go. Fusion ST, if you will. Something to succeed the Contour SVT!
Falcon is RWD and can have a supercharged v8 or a turbo 6. Fusion is Failwheeldrive. I had two Contour SVT's, good commuter cars, but no BALLS.
The Falcon GT is almost 500hp. If you look at the package it's impressive (Brembro's and all). Have a look at the vid in the article below. Listen as the GT-F accelerates past the camera. Nothing Ford has had or is planned in the near future is anything like that in North America.
http://m.autoblog.com/2014/06/15/final-falcon-gt-ford-performance-vehicles/
It pisses me off!
All if the Chrysler products I have had (with one exception) just fell apart. You name it, it broke. It's nice to say it's got 700 hp. But I still wouldn't drive one. I'd bet it would spend more time at the dealer than in my driveway.
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Here is another vid
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eRNxnlNbEO8
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I'd buy one of those. If we had it.
Here's the pics of the prototypes I saw.
Well when you park like a d bag people are going to look. I bet if she parked normal it would blend In to most people.
I like it though. Still have the pics of inside?
I never got any inside shots. Couldn't closer than 30 feet before she stopped me.
Something about the round looking front on the hood that makes me not like this at all.
It kinda reminds me of the Dart's front end. Not crazy about it.
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Not crazy about the looks. If only this came in 300. Done.
Ha, I love the refreshed Charger. They pulled in the corners 6" in to make it not look like a boat. So much better than the 11-14 gen.
I would have told that fat b**** I'm a reporter with Jalopnik and if you don't let me take pics, your pretty face is going to be posted for the world to see. Love messing with people...
not crazy about the disjointed grill & without a shaker hood not much to look at. needs some striping & lots of extra to make it stand out more, of course i don't as a lot of you do like the sleeper look at all. if i'm paying big money i want everybody to know.
I don't know.... I see similarities that I like. I may have grabbed one if it was AWD and avail when I got mine.
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^^^that pic doesn't look like other one at all in the front.
Wait when did the dart become a full size car?
Quote from: SHOnUup on August 19, 2014, 05:24:17 PM
^^^that pic doesn't look like other one at all in the front.
It's an r/t not the hellcat
I like this one better lol
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http://m.autoblog.com/2014/08/20/dodge-viper-out-hell-hellcat-supercharged-v10/ (http://m.autoblog.com/2014/08/20/dodge-viper-out-hell-hellcat-supercharged-v10/)
Quote from: ford4thot on August 20, 2014, 06:51:01 PM
Quote from: SHOnUup on August 19, 2014, 05:24:17 PM
^^^that pic doesn't look like other one at all in the front.
It's an r/t not the hellcat
Much better looking IMO. White one almost looks like it's frowning with the fogs as tears. Lol
Quote from: SHOnUup on August 20, 2014, 09:02:53 PM
Quote from: ford4thot on August 20, 2014, 06:51:01 PM
Quote from: SHOnUup on August 19, 2014, 05:24:17 PM
^^^that pic doesn't look like other one at all in the front.
It's an r/t not the hellcat
Much better looking IMO. White one almost looks like it's frowning with the fogs as tears. Lol
I think I prefer the hellcat....I'm not a mopar fan tho, aside from looks
That new viper looks like a Ferrari and an Audi had a love child.
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It kinda reminds me of an Austin Martin from the back.
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Oooohhh, looks nice. Is it getting smaller too? Can't be, right!
The Hellcat "killer"
http://www.stangtv.com/news/video-livernois-builds-worlds-highest-hp-ecoboost-taurus-sho/
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Quote from: ShoBoat on August 23, 2014, 06:24:40 PM
The Hellcat "killer"
http://www.stangtv.com/news/video-livernois-builds-worlds-highest-hp-ecoboost-taurus-sho/
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Love the last paragraph.
In it's current form the SHO is a real surprise at the track. I had a bunch of guys just taken about mine and the 12.7 run last night. And these were guys running 11 second cars. Just imagine when you SHO up in one of these and you tear up a 10 second pass lol.
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Quote from: ShoBoat on August 23, 2014, 06:37:43 PM
In it's current form the SHO is a real surprise at the track. I had a bunch of guys just taken about mine and the 12.7 run last night. And these were guys running 11 second cars. Just imagine when you SHO up in one of these and you tear up a 10 second pass lol.
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For sure. Last time I went had 2 guys checking mine out after some nice runs. These guys were in gt500 ' s running low and high 11's too.
Quote from: ShoBoat on August 23, 2014, 06:24:40 PM
The Hellcat "killer"
http://www.stangtv.com/news/video-livernois-builds-worlds-highest-hp-ecoboost-taurus-sho/ (http://www.stangtv.com/news/video-livernois-builds-worlds-highest-hp-ecoboost-taurus-sho/)
Nice find. Just need a trans to handle all that power. No claims on engine durability either at those levels. So Hellcat's not out of the game yet :) Go 5.0TT!!!
Quote from: SHOdded on August 23, 2014, 09:05:11 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on August 23, 2014, 06:24:40 PM
The Hellcat "killer"
http://www.stangtv.com/news/video-livernois-builds-worlds-highest-hp-ecoboost-taurus-sho/ (http://www.stangtv.com/news/video-livernois-builds-worlds-highest-hp-ecoboost-taurus-sho/)
Nice find. Just need a trans to handle all that power. No claims on engine durability either at those levels. So Hellcat's not out of the game yet :) Go 5.0TT!!!
Here is a question for ya, has anyone actually toasted a Trans from high power levels?
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Not that I know of. But noone has yet run those power levels as a DD either (durability). The transmission seems to be self-protective (a good thing), and is more likely to go into a limp-home mode when it senses a problem. 4DR's experience at the 600 AWHP levels points to that. Remember that the latest attempt at this power level is on the engine dyno only, not with the drivetrain connected.
Now, the PTU/driveshaft/RDU would easily be suspect IMHO at those power levels. No questions yet about driveshafts, other than improper installation at the factory.
He's traveling through lands unknown at this time. It is where many will learn what it takes to seriously juice up a SHO. Pretty exciting to me!
Agreed!
I agree---bpd has always shown he had massive balls