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Ecoboost Performance => General Discussion => Topic started by: southtxSHO on June 08, 2014, 09:27:52 AM

Title: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: southtxSHO on June 08, 2014, 09:27:52 AM
Would our cars benefit from a higher stall torque converter?  Would the transmission handle it ?
Just a thought. ...

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Title: Re: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: bpd1151 on June 08, 2014, 10:00:03 AM
No.

Circle D developed one for Darreli & he LOST nearly .6 in the 1/4 as a result.

Attempts were made to offset the loss through tuning, but results were iffy at best.

Darrell kind of wished he directed the money elsewhere in retrospect
Title: Re: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: SHOdded on June 08, 2014, 07:31:50 PM
As it is, once the SHO is tuned (probably same for Flex, X, F150), the best launch rpm drops.  Higher stall = no help.
Title: Re: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: Needmoreboost on June 08, 2014, 07:36:19 PM
Lol.  My car drops easy half a second with the circle D converter.  ;)
Title: Re: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: FracaSHO on June 08, 2014, 10:12:00 PM

Quote from: SHOdded on June 08, 2014, 07:31:50 PM
As it is, once the SHO is tuned (probably same for Flex, X, F150), the best launch rpm drops.  Higher stall = no help.

I got the LMS 4+, not the updated one, and I was launching at 2,000 to 2,200 rpm. Should I be launching at lower RPM's? If so, where should I be at?


Brad
2010 SHO with PP
170* T-Stat
NGK LTR7IX plugs, gap at 0.030
BOV VTA
MyCal LMS Stage 4+
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Title: Re: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: SHOdded on June 08, 2014, 10:20:21 PM
Brad, you are in the right area for launch with the tune, closer to 2000 rpm has been reported as ideal for most.

NMB, talking about the SHO or the Stang?  What is your launch rpm, and what is the stall speed of your Circle D?  Dyno sheet?  1/2 second is fantastic.  How's your normal mpg look in daily driving?
Title: Re: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: Needmoreboost on June 09, 2014, 11:10:20 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on June 08, 2014, 10:20:21 PM
Brad, you are in the right area for launch with the tune, closer to 2000 rpm has been reported as ideal for most.

NMB, talking about the SHO or the Stang?  What is your launch rpm, and what is the stall speed of your Circle D?  Dyno sheet?  1/2 second is fantastic.  How's your normal mpg look in daily driving?

No, talking the stangs.  No reason for converter on the ecoboost.  It leaves plenty hard enough for street tires.  Brake boost is your converter...
Title: Re: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: Tuner Boost on July 03, 2014, 03:13:34 PM
We are about 50% through development of a purpose built unit (not a restalled OEM like the others I have seen) and on similar applications were seeing .4-.5 sec gains in 1/4 mile times...60' is really improved.  Will post more as we near completion.

Title: Re: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: SHOdded on July 03, 2014, 04:11:49 PM
Promises, promises :D  Hurry up already, Tracy!
Title: Re: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: southtxSHO on July 03, 2014, 06:36:04 PM
Quote from: Tuner Boost on July 03, 2014, 03:13:34 PM
We are about 50% through development of a purpose built unit (not a restalled OEM like the others I have seen) and on similar applications were seeing .4-.5 sec gains in 1/4 mile times...60' is really improved.  Will post more as we near completion.
Nice ......
Title: Re: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: 68_GT on July 03, 2014, 08:00:48 PM
nice !

I had circle D fix the transmission on my Expedition a few months ago I've seen their place and work in person it's amazing. I figured if they can't do it then it couldn't be done !
Title: Re: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: SHOnUup on July 03, 2014, 08:26:36 PM
Pm me when the product is available. ..thx
Title: Re: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: Tuner Boost on July 05, 2014, 12:08:09 PM
Will do.  On a turbo car, if the converter is design properly it puts you into the sweet spot for boost and utilizes the torque band, you want it to bring you just below peak TQ RPM and the HP will carry you from there.  Getting one to be efficient enough is the challenge. As far as driveability it will lock up like stock, and if not "putting your foot in it" will act like near stock.

Title: Re: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: black99lightning on July 05, 2014, 03:27:43 PM
what would the cost be of purpose built unit? 
Title: Re: Higher stall torque converter ?
Post by: SHOnUup on July 07, 2014, 01:59:35 PM
Tuner Boost, that makes me smile!!!
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