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Title: ideas of a Fusion ST
Post by: AndyMan04 on May 15, 2014, 01:37:29 PM
http://wot.motortrend.com/thread-of-the-day-should-ford-build-a-fusion-st-345301.html (http://wot.motortrend.com/thread-of-the-day-should-ford-build-a-fusion-st-345301.html)

personally, if they made it into a hatch version this could turn out to be intresting. If the new Lincoln can fit a 3.7L V-6, then i picture a Fusion ST can fit a 3.5L ecoBoost... but that would take sales away from the SHO if the builds were the same.
So that means ford would have to develope a new ecoBoost engine... something like a twin-turbo 4.0L V-8 engine... ;D. Yes sir.
Title: Re: ideas of a Fusion ST
Post by: BiGMaC on May 15, 2014, 01:53:22 PM
It would be fun to have a 3.5EB in an st... And massively overpowered...lol!
Title: Re: ideas of a Fusion ST
Post by: vernonator on May 15, 2014, 01:56:10 PM
What about the new 2.7l V6 ecoboost they are developing for the F150? Surley that will fit in a Fusion and stock its reported to be around 310hp....tuned it would ramp up nicely :)
Title: Re: ideas of a Fusion ST
Post by: yowen on May 15, 2014, 03:41:33 PM
I am a big fan of the Fiesta and Focus ST, but feel they are really missing out w/o AWD. That's something they could really do with a Fusion ST coupled with a 2.7 EcoBoost.

If the rumors are true and the Taurus is moving to a extended Fusion platform, then a new SHO should be significantly lighter and would also be a very fun car (not that the current one isn't). Perhaps they could even offer a manual!

That pretty much sums up my automotive dreams! Haha.
Title: Re: ideas of a Fusion ST
Post by: vernonator on May 15, 2014, 03:55:13 PM
Quote from: yowen on May 15, 2014, 03:41:33 PM
I am a big fan of the Fiesta and Focus ST, but feel they are really missing out w/o AWD. That's something they could really do with a Fusion ST coupled with a 2.7 EcoBoost.

If the rumors are true and the Taurus is moving to a extended Fusion platform, then a new SHO should be significantly lighter and would also be a very fun car (not that the current one isn't). Perhaps they could even offer a manual!

That pretty much sums up my automotive dreams! Haha.

Lighter SHO will be great (if they keep making them when they go to the extended Fusion platform). As far as a manual...meh...get the paddle shifters more responsive and put the (in development) 9spd auto in there and you will be good-to-go!!!
Title: Re: ideas of a Fusion ST
Post by: AndyMan04 on May 15, 2014, 04:01:04 PM
^^

you bring up a good point, but i really hope someday (wishful thinking at best...  :-) that Ford developes a V-8 ecoboost. Something small. Like a 4.0L would be perfect in my perspective. I am sure it would perform fine. Something they could use in for f-250 platforms and still get good gas mileage.
If a fusion ST gets an AWD platform, than i am sure it would take sales away from the Mustang,... which is something I don't picture seeing.
Title: Re: ideas of a Fusion ST
Post by: yowen on May 15, 2014, 04:14:04 PM
Ideally Ford or Lincoln should build a RWD sedan to compete with the ATS and the 3 Series.

It's a market they currently simply aren't a player in. I doubt it would rob a whole lot sales from current vehicles. But it would mostly attract people that would normally go for ATS/CTS, 3 Series/5 Series, A4/5/6, just to name a few.
Title: Re: ideas of a Fusion ST
Post by: AndyMan04 on May 15, 2014, 04:40:57 PM
Quote from: yowen on May 15, 2014, 04:14:04 PM
Ideally Ford or Lincoln should build a RWD sedan to compete with the ATS and the 3 Series.

It's a market they currently simply aren't a player in. I doubt it would rob a whole lot sales from current vehicles. But it would mostly attract people that would normally go for ATS/CTS, 3 Series/5 Series, A4/5/6, just to name a few.

agreed. A lincoln coup would be a start. Anyone remember the Mark series? ... and after this year. What is ford going to do with their 5.8 S/C engine??.. all that power gone to waste... it's sad indeed. I would love to see it droped in some type of big lincoln coup that would compete with the CTS-V.... but again, a plaform like that would take sales away from the Mustang i'm sure.
Title: Re: ideas of a Fusion ST
Post by: SHOdded on May 15, 2014, 04:45:39 PM
The V, power-wise, is based on the Vette.  So theoretically, Lincoln could come up with a sedan/coupe/wagon that is based on the strongest power offering in the Mustang lineup.  Hardly a daunting task as far as engineering & design is concerned, but most likely held back by financial decisions.
Title: Re: ideas of a Fusion ST
Post by: yowen on May 30, 2014, 09:33:51 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on May 15, 2014, 04:45:39 PM
The V, power-wise, is based on the Vette.  So theoretically, Lincoln could come up with a sedan/coupe/wagon that is based on the strongest power offering in the Mustang lineup.  Hardly a daunting task as far as engineering & design is concerned, but most likely held back by financial decisions.

Ford did the Raptor, very successfully I might add, it brought recognition to a truck that is already the nations best seller, time to bring some recognition to the Lincoln brand with a CTS-V competitor. Not only will it be an awesome car, but it'll get people talking about Lincolns again, get them into dealerships, I am a firm believer that the CTS-V is helping Cadillac sell cars.
Title: Re: ideas of a Fusion ST
Post by: ShoBoat on May 30, 2014, 10:54:25 AM
^^ this!


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Title: Re: ideas of a Fusion ST
Post by: SwampRat on May 30, 2014, 03:51:25 PM
After lots of reasearch the 3.5EB AWD powetrain WILL fit into the Fusion .
The 2014 + Lincoln MKZ  can be bought with the 3.7 Duratec in AWD .
The Duratec mounts in tbe bay the same as the base 3.5 and 3.5 EB do in the SHO.

It would require minor IC improvements over the 4 banger EB  for more flow capacity.
Some Front end suspension and  braking mods woulld be needed as well .

Ford could do it if they choose too.

I'd name it the SVT Fusion .
Title: Re: ideas of a Fusion ST
Post by: yowen on May 30, 2014, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: SwampRat on May 30, 2014, 03:51:25 PM
After lots of reasearch the 3.5EB AWD powetrain WILL fit into the Fusion .
The 2014 + Lincoln MKZ  can be bought with the 3.7 Duratec in AWD .
The Duratec mounts in tbe bay the same as the base 3.5 and 3.5 EB do in the SHO.

It would require minor IC improvements over the 4 banger EB  for more flow capacity.
Some Front end suspension and  braking mods woulld be needed as well .

Ford could do it if they choose too.

I'd name it the SVT Fusion .

That would be one hell of a project, you'd have to REALLY want it, haha. I wish electronics these days were not as complicated as they are, or if they do have to be, it'd be nice if they were more flexible with engine swaps. I suppose this is where standalone ECU's come into play.
Title: Re: ideas of a Fusion ST
Post by: SwampRat on May 30, 2014, 04:05:16 PM
Quote from: yowen on May 30, 2014, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: SwampRat on May 30, 2014, 03:51:25 PM
After lots of reasearch the 3.5EB AWD powetrain WILL fit into the Fusion .
The 2014 + Lincoln MKZ  can be bought with the 3.7 Duratec in AWD .
The Duratec mounts in tbe bay the same as the base 3.5 and 3.5 EB do in the SHO.

It would require minor IC improvements over the 4 banger EB  for more flow capacity.
Some Front end suspension and  braking mods woulld be needed as well .

Ford could do it if they choose too.

I'd name it the SVT Fusion .

That would be one hell of a project, you'd have to REALLY want it, haha. I wish electronics these days were not as complicated as they are, or if they do have to be, it'd be nice if they were more flexible with engine swaps. I suppose this is where standalone ECU's come into play.



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