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Title: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: EcoPowerParts on December 07, 2012, 04:47:59 PM
I'll post pics later of the stock fuel pump/basket etc and the Walbro 416 I tried to install.
Headed to wrestling practice now, just wanted to let everyone know.
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: EcoBrick Bob on December 07, 2012, 07:11:09 PM
Can Torrie verify from looks of your LPFP if the one from the Supercharged Shelby Mustang, or from Ford GT would work.  If the Walbro would fit, you might just need a different plug that you can wire into Ford's loop.  This is an issue with G8's using the ZR-1 pump.  Works with the proper plug.

Also... may just be off base... This is black hole technology for me, but like daily diets for some.
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: EcoPowerParts on December 07, 2012, 08:28:50 PM
Here's the picture of the stock setup and the Walbro 416, the stock fuel pump has the blue top.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-R6qQMacuKv0/UMKW0LY8dOI/AAAAAAACfDQ/3GePvE0etMI/s912/IMG_20121207_122134.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AqvnFoWzxzI/UMKXF2ax7AI/AAAAAAACfDg/65zpIvMSh9Y/s640/IMG_20121207_122101.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-LPTeFs7TRiE/UMKXHSIRBgI/AAAAAAACfDo/KsvBuaSf6Ag/s640/IMG_20121207_122739.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-EUTSFamEK_Y/UMKXJsrGQkI/AAAAAAACfDw/OAjbMeYcKxE/s640/IMG_20121207_123844.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-W1oV7g71SBI/UMKXMSz0HPI/AAAAAAACfEA/c9FTBiabUUo/s912/IMG_20121207_122747.jpg)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KwQu6qpTg7U/UMKXPgZNt1I/AAAAAAACfEQ/GyM7CNX2YLQ/s640/IMG_20121207_122731.jpg)
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: EcoBrick Bob on December 07, 2012, 08:45:04 PM
I see you are trying to adapt the Walbro to the Ford housing... correct?

Thinking there are other avenues to go... A Ford pump from the Ford GT or Shelby,  Squash Performance, or Lonnies or some other system  provides you with a new housing that would lock into the Ford Gas Tank...

Sorry if I am way off base...  Somewhere... somehow there is a solution... :bangin: :bangin:
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: EcoPowerParts on December 07, 2012, 09:24:58 PM
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on December 07, 2012, 08:45:04 PM
I see you are trying to adapt the Walbro to the Ford housing... correct?

Thinking there are other avenues to go... A Ford pump from the Ford GT or Shelby,  Squash Performance, or Lonnies or some other system  provides you with a new housing that would lock into the Ford Gas Tank...

Sorry if I am way off base...  Somewhere... somehow there is a solution... :bangin: :bangin:
Yup, contacting Lonnies
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: EcoBrick Bob on December 07, 2012, 11:53:44 PM
That's what my friend Tom Scott (Wreckwriter) a moderator on GRRRR8 Net uses on his 9 second G8.  He is running a 175 shot of Nitrous with his ProCharger setup, with a stock bottom end on his 6.0 engine.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: EcoBrick Bob on December 08, 2012, 02:01:22 PM
Are you planning to fuel both your DI pump and the low pressure injectors from you Ford fuel tank, or are you thinking of having an auxiliary fuel tank for the low pressure injectors.  Also how are you coordinating the nitrous with the low pressure fuel injectors? Are you including a low fuel/low fuel pressure shutoff or some control over nitrous if A/F/ Lambda
gets too lean?

I know you want to run E-85 thru entire fuel system and that's why you are upgrading stock pump volume.  Just wondering how you are going to attempt to handle everything else...
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: EcoPowerParts on December 08, 2012, 06:44:36 PM
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on December 08, 2012, 02:01:22 PM
Are you planning to fuel both your DI pump and the low pressure injectors from you Ford fuel tank,
Yes, everything from the factory fuel tank
 
Quote from: EcoBrick Bob on December 08, 2012, 02:01:22 PM
Also how are you coordinating the nitrous with the low pressure fuel injectors? Are you including a low fuel/low fuel pressure shutoff or some control over nitrous if A/F/ Lambda
gets too lean?
The AIC1 controller has the ability to do 2 fuel maps, one for regular and one for nitrous armed so that I can just use this system to provide fuel for the nitrous and the engine depending on what's going on. Yes there will be a low fuel pressure safety switch. As far as the AFR I'm working with the Torque app devs to make me a plugin so that when at full throttle and boost over 6 PSI if AFR goes over 12.2 to flash the entire tablet screen red so I have a gauge.
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: pilo22 on June 18, 2013, 11:35:45 AM
How hard is it to drop the gas tank? Looking to replace both fuel senders as my fuel gauge is off but not sure if to attempt it myself or take to a mechanic :/
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: EcoPowerParts on June 18, 2013, 11:50:02 AM
On the V6 transverse chassis you can pull the carpet back and there's an access hatch in the passenger rear under the seat. Wasn't hard to get to at all, the pump ring was a PITA to take off though, big freaking hammer and a big flathead and some serious wacking. There's a tool for it but I couldn't find it.
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: EcoBrick Bob on June 18, 2013, 03:16:38 PM
It is really easy if you have mid-row buckets!

For anyone who is thinking about a Kenne Bell Boost-A-Pump, you wire in on the pass side B-Pillar on Flex just above the FP relay.  Believe this relay is in the trunk in the SHO, on the pass side.
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: TT_House13 on June 24, 2013, 05:59:33 AM
This is the wrench to remove the ring but it isn't cheap.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_fuel-tank-lock-ring-wrench-for-ford-otc_28030008-p (http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_fuel-tank-lock-ring-wrench-for-ford-otc_28030008-p)
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: EcoBrick Bob on June 24, 2013, 10:59:39 AM
It's cheaper than most alternatives... :beer:
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: EcoPowerParts on June 24, 2013, 11:47:23 AM
Quote from: TT_House13 on June 24, 2013, 05:59:33 AM
This is the wrench to remove the ring but it isn't cheap.
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_fuel-tank-lock-ring-wrench-for-ford-otc_28030008-p (http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_fuel-tank-lock-ring-wrench-for-ford-otc_28030008-p)

Advanced didn't have it but Amazon did, I ordered one because it really sucks to use a hammer and screwdriver to take off, well worth the money.
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: SHOdded on June 24, 2013, 12:55:20 PM
Should we start a thread that lists tool ideas/tool finds that make working on the vehicle easier?  Like this fuel pump tool, BPD Mike's air lift, etc.?
Title: Re: Tried to upgrade the low pressure fuel pump - no go
Post by: EcoPowerParts on June 24, 2013, 12:57:35 PM
Great idea!
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